Raul Jimenez

[Tring Wolf]

Who is missing from Watford side this weekend due to the same reason as Raul ? Couldn’t see anything on it

Serralta. Chilean centre-half. He’s very decent but obviously not as big as loss to them as Raul would be to us.

 

[VictorPyrrhic]

Big blow for us this in what could prove to be a vital match when we look back on our season. If nothing else, we really needed Jimenez to get further competitive minutes.

 

[theweave]

With Brazil enforcing it and it now affecting the top clubs this rule will soon be changed

 

[Minimalist]

It's because Everton play on a Monday, after the bans have finished.

As you say though, irrespective of how it comes about, it creates a nonsensical scenario

We should move our game to the Monday?
As Watford are in a similar position they’d probably agree too...

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

We should move our game to the Monday?
As Watford are in a similar position they’d probably agree too...

Good logic. I agree.

 

[Bob Wolf]

They have now, for all clubs except Everton.

That appears so dodgey doesn’t it.

 

[Bob Wolf]

We should move our game to the Monday?
As Watford are in a similar position they’d probably agree too...

Genius idea

 

[I'm the Wanderer]

so, now does Raul end up looking in all this mess?

 

[I'm the Wanderer]

We should move our game to the Monday?
As Watford are in a similar position they’d probably agree too...

You're a thinker!

 

[Contrarian]

Serralta. Chilean centre-half. He’s very decent but obviously not as big as loss to them as Raul would be to us.

Would be good if Raul *could* play, but with his opposing centre-half missing. Could we perhaps put a "Fabio wig" on Raul and hope nobody notices?

 

[Miniwolf]

I'm confused as to why Brazil are going through with their complaint. After the farce with the UK based Argentina players wouldn't the UK based Brazil players have to isolate on entering Brazil therefore be unavailable for them anyway ?

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Reading further about Everton and I may have given bad info. Some talk that they are thankful richarlison was released for the Olympics so they're not complaining about him.
Massively dodgy!

 

[CelebrityWolf]

I fully understand why this rule was brought in to be honest. International football needs to be protected or you would never have players released for games. And everyone seems to ignore the fact that just about all of these players want to represent their country and have dreamt of it since childhood, not to mention it is generally an opportunity to see their own country again, even just for a few days.

As for Raul though, not sure it is a smart move from Mexico given his return from injury though I assume he actually wanted to go and join the team, or else he could probably have smoothed this out before any of this by chatting with Mexico personally.

 

[Boss Hogg]

Why don’t we ask him to wear a Mexican wrestling mask during the game - FIFA will never conclusively know who it is.

 

[Highlandwolf2]

Out of context from what has gone before - very poor that we still rely so heavily on him, especially after a life threatening injury. How do we know that he will ever be quite the player he was? Not that there would be any blame on him if that was sadly the case.

 

[MobNet Wolf]

It's because Everton play on a Monday, after the bans have finished.

As you say though, irrespective of how it comes about, it creates a nonsensical scenario

No this is not correct.

The ban extends to midweek in any event, hence the Brazilians also having to miss their clubs’ CL games.

The Brazilian FA simply hasn’t “complained” about Everton because Everton were reasonable in allowing Richarlison to play at the Olympics when they didn’t have to.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

EXCLUSIVE: Prem stars banned by Brazil and Co could be free to play

EXCLUSIVE: The Premier League is hopeful that the 11 players banned from playing this weekend after failing to appear for their international sides will be allowed to take to the field.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Potential good news.

 

[kennyB]

What a complete and utter farce this is. Countries asking for players to be banned, I hope they have to suffer when players turn them down in future, as for FIFA, seems they're ruling the world now! Who are these people?

 

[Stoichkov]

What a complete and utter farce this is. Countries asking for players to be banned, I hope they have to suffer when players turn them down in future, as for FIFA, seems they're ruling the world now! Who are these people?

they are the people bringing you a world cup in qatar halfway through next season

nothing against the WC going to the middle east (great in fact) but everything around that WC stinks, the disruption to our domestic calendars, the dodgy reasons they got it (see S Blatter), the deaths of migrant workers building stadiums in obscene heat

they are also the people proposing a WC every two years. between FIFA, VAR, the increasingly blatant bias for the 'big six', the 'Super League' (which will be back)..... it all leaves a sour taste. give us our game back.

 

[JOSWolf]

Mexico should show some respect to Raul. A player that suffered such a serious injury and only just back playing. I would be furious with the Mexican FA if I was Raul and tell them to go **** themselves.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

No this is not correct.

The ban extends to midweek in any event, hence the Brazilians also having to miss their clubs’ CL games.

The Brazilian FA simply hasn’t “complained” about Everton because Everton were reasonable in allowing Richarlison to play at the Olympics when they didn’t have to.

Mad. Ness!

 

[Incognito]

Why don’t we ask him to wear a Mexican wrestling mask during the game - FIFA will never conclusively know who it is.

After what happened at Wembley? No thanks. The mask's not lucky for us.

 

[wolf of sedgley]

Mexico should show some respect to Raul. A player that suffered such a serious injury and only just back playing. I would be furious with the Mexican FA if I was Raul and tell them to go **** themselves.

Too right

 

[NottsWolves]

Absolute farce.

What’s to stop players from withdrawing from squads themselves? They don’t have to play for their country.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

No this is not correct.

The ban extends to midweek in any event, hence the Brazilians also having to miss their clubs’ CL games.

The Brazilian FA simply hasn’t “complained” about Everton because Everton were reasonable in allowing Richarlison to play at the Olympics when they didn’t have to.

Which Raul couldn’t take part in because he was still recovering. It stinks, it really does. As others have said. If I were Raul, I’d be telling the Mexican FA what I think, and that their action will result in him telling his Mexican fans how poor he’s been treated by them. I’d imagine a few officials might then feel a little worried about their personal safety given the risk that gangs and individuals in Mexico take the law into their own hands.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

Fifa need to be to told to shove there internationals where the sun don't shine until the pandemic is over.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Absolute farce.

What’s to stop players from withdrawing from squads themselves? They don’t have to play for their country.

Rafinha did so he can play, suggests the players want to play.

 

[colwall wolf]

Mexico should show some respect to Raul. A player that suffered such a serious injury and only just back playing. I would be furious with the Mexican FA if I was Raul and tell them to go **** themselves.

Maybe he wanted to play?

 

[SuperGran]

Maybe he wanted to play?

I’m sure he did

 

[TheConcourse]

Why does the head injury come into it? He’s passed fit and healthy to play elite level football.

Reality: Wolves didn’t want him to have to quarantine/be more exposed to Covid and miss games so they rolled the dice with Mexico.

We don’t have the right to block players playing for their national team.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Why does the head injury come into it? He’s passed fit and healthy to play elite level football.

Reality: Wolves didn’t want him to have to quarantine/be more exposed to Covid and miss games so they rolled the dice with Mexico.

We don’t have the right to block players playing for their national team.

Not exactly.

The PL clubs agreed not to send their players to Red countries and agreed that it was consistent with prior approved actions during the pandemic. Two clubs, Villa and Spurs, broke ranks and now those who stood by the original decision are being penalised.

 

[bennymacca]

So Bruno is planning a game for 48 hour’s time and FIFA still haven’t decided whether Raul can play… come on!

 

[clivewolves]

Is there a deadline for this? Could Jimenez be about to kick off the match and then have to withdraw at the last minute?

 

[marrs-guitar]

Not exactly.

The PL clubs agreed not to send their players to Red countries and agreed that it was consistent with prior approved actions during the pandemic. Two clubs, Villa and Spurs, broke ranks and now those who stood by the original decision are being penalised.

I don't think Spurs broke ranks. Their players seem to have simply jetted off on their own accord and are now facing hefty fines from the club.

I have absolutely no idea what Villa think they were doing.

 

[TheConcourse]

Not exactly.

The PL clubs agreed not to send their players to Red countries and agreed that it was consistent with prior approved actions during the pandemic. Two clubs, Villa and Spurs, broke ranks and now those who stood by the original decision are being penalised.

So either the governing bodies haven’t updated their recommendations or Wolves have pushed the limits of what they “believe” to be consistent.

It sounds as clear as mud and I’m struggling to believe that this is an innocent misunderstanding from Wolves’ side given the way countries have reacted.

 

[pacamac]

He will be in a hotel. So won’t do any exercise for 10 days .

He wouldn't be staying in a travelodge!

 

[Direwolf]

I cannot understand why people are criticising the club over this. Their is no inconsistency. One should not travel to Red list countries. So Raul was not released.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

I cannot understand why people are criticising the club over this. Their is no inconsistency. One should not travel to Red list countries. So Raul was not released.

Are people?

I think we (well, I certainly) are just annoyed at the ludicrous situation

 

[Zico]

So either the governing bodies haven’t updated their recommendations or Wolves have pushed the limits of what they “believe” to be consistent.

It sounds as clear as mud and I’m struggling to believe that this is an innocent misunderstanding from Wolves’ side given the way countries have reacted.

What are you talking about? Nearly every team, Villa apart, have taken the view that the pandemic is a bit of an unusual thing that requires exceptional circumstances. The UK Government has told people not to travel to red countries unless it's absolutely necessary. Bizarrely, FIFA are behaving as if nothing's the matter.

 

[bigwolf]

I cannot understand why people are criticising the club over this. Their is no inconsistency. One should not travel to Red list countries. So Raul was not released.

Because Jeff is the devil, usama bin laden and adolf hitler rolled into one entity.