Has Nuno Lost Heart?

[Burford T Justice]

Injuries .... and a small unbalanced squad . That’s all folks

Injuries, yes but the small unbalanced squad is down to Nuno. He said he was happy with his squad at the start of the season. It was never a squad that could cope with a few injuries and so it has proved. Hopefully this realisation will have dawned on him and the squad size will be grown a little this window.

 

[Stoichkov]

We have certainly lost our identity. Teams feared us , now we look weak and disjointed.

Absolute twaddle

Why do people exaggerate?

We have some brilliant young players but yes we’re in the midst of an injury crisis

Nuno’s Penchant for bringing on a centre half is annoying but the thinking is to release the wingbacks and has been behind our good form over last three years

We ARE showing signings of doing new things, and with a couple of additions, will be strong again

I wish everyone would stop wailing and calm down. By all means express frustration at the way we sit back (I know I do)

However Nuno is still by far the best manager we could hope for

 

[Mugwump]

Missing half the first team with bench players coming in and matching Spurs, UTD and Chelsea. If I was Nuno I would be absolutely chuffed at what they are achieving this season as long as the trajectory remains upwards. I find these threads hilarious at times but to paint Nuno as some type of broken man who has lost it really takes the biscuit. There is absolutely no logic behind it. The guy is no quitter and they will be back at it.

Thats a big thing thats being missed by a lot of people. We have lost through injury 2 of our best defenders, our form midfielder and our main striker. Add on the likes of Adama and Podence not fully fit and i challenge anyone to say outside of probably Citeh and Liverpool any club in the country who could survive that and still thrive. I still think we have done ok. Not great, not poor, just ok.

 

[WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax]

If he’s a bit down I don’t blame him! 12 months ago we were doing well in Europe, sold out stadium every week, pushing to finish in Europe again.
We all know the situation now.... I certainly concur that a lack of fans is affecting us more than some other sides.

I just hope this season acts as a learning experience for him, and Fosun, showing that the light squad he wants can easily come unstuck. You make your own luck, and I believe the lack of injures previously hasn’t just been lucky, but we should have been better prepared for the current lack of squad depth.

Im sure we’ll sign a striker to take the load off Fabio, and once Donk/Marcal/Boly/Podence are back in a few weeks we’ll look a lot more solid. Next season with fans back Nuno will be back to his fist pumping self, don’t fret.

 

[Deleted member 9202LYK]

Well big sam is taken...........for now

Albion fans I know are hoping they lose 11-0 every week so Sam will be sacked and he wil turn up here to try to save us...

 

[Hot Fuss]

Fine margins. Opens header goes in yesterday and all the comments are about how despite being poor in the second half we stuck with it and got a result against a bogey team. Late goal for Man u etc. We are as far down the table as we could be in reality ...we have had no good luck this season it seems. Nuno does seem more stressed than usual imo. Like us he will be disappointed with recent results. Unlike us he is in position to do something about it.
Some new faces in would be good, so would a bit more positivity on the rare occasions we build a lead.
I dont want the man gone, I am not sure anyone would get more out of our squad that he built. But the man is not immune to criticism. There are things in his power that he needs to change.

We got a fair bit of luck yesterday to be fair.

 

[Deleted member 8913]

You know what...I am losing heart at all these really stupid threads and really stupid posts by stupid people who call themselves fans ....I really hope Nuno never reads or hears this entitled rubbish that denigrates all the hard work that’s been done. I am quite sure winning the premier league is dead easy and all of you trolls know it all. Fosun are too cheap , Nuno is useless and you should support the Blades .

I will wish the rest of you a happy new year and leave you on your own for a spell.

 

[WonderWolf]

No, not at all.

Like us he is just suffering the impact with missing key players and having to throw in the young newbies – maybe against how he would actually want – in hope it works out quicker than expected.

Any issues going are with head not heart......and not entirely his fault.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

Are people just looking for excuses by mentioning injuries? Obviously they’re not helping, but we’ve been poor since the restart and whilst most of the bigger names were playing.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Albion fans I know are hoping they lose 11-0 every week so Sam will be sacked and he wil turn up here to try to save us...

He can stay there for the next decade....

 

[Incognito]

No he has not lost heart. He's not a pussy! Reckon so called "fans" have though, judging by the ****** on here and tweetie poo. FFS cut the man some slack and let him work things out. We've been **** for years. Nuno's put us back on the footballing map. Complete lunacy, the over-reaction to a sticky patch.

 

[Deleted member 4184]

Sorry mate, but I’m not having that. We were promoted two seasons ago, hailed as one of the best ever promoted teams. We had champions league players and a top class coach. Finished 7th and an Fa cup semi and then 7th again with a uefa cup quarterfinal. It’s not like we are Cardiff or Fulham, it’s not unreasonable for fans to question the progress of the team considering the last few years.

It's true, this team have achieved those things.

Add no fans
Add a large injury list
Add Jimenez situation
Add nuno changing systems to benefit us long term

10-15th is probably our level this season, with the above reasons I don't think that it's a disaster.

The Internet football fan has no patience, they want everything now

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Not forgetting the FA charges against Nuno's comments. Another reason for him to not be a happy chappy.
Nuno does not seem under any other pressure yet by Fosun according to this report.

Wolves news: Tim Spiers reveals Fosun's stance on Nuno Espirito Santo

Wolves have struggled to progress this season

www.givemesport.com

 

[Matt]

Not forgetting the FA charges against Nuno's comments. Another reason for him to not be a happy chappy.
Nuno does not seem under any other pressure yet by Fosun according to this report.

Wolves news: Tim Spiers reveals Fosun's stance on Nuno Espirito Santo

Wolves have struggled to progress this season

www.givemesport.com

Good. It would be ridiculous to even consider it imo. Yes it’s frustrating after a couple of years of flying high in the table and qualifying for Europe, but we had a one day pre season and have been decimated by injuries. Get through this season (with a couple of additions this month) and go again next year with more experience under the young uns belts, like the article says.

 

[Andywolf74]

I think it’s incredibly difficult for even the very best Managers to change a style of play that they have specialised in for a number of years.
Nuno’s specialism has always been slightly conservative and hit teams on the break. This method has worked pretty damn well so far and I think he will broadly employ these tactics at whatever club he manages.

 

[Leamwolf]

I would hazard a guess that it was because he got us to the FA Cup / Europa Cup Semi finals with a healthy position in the league.

Partly, but let’s get your opening point correct;

he got us to a europa league quarter final (not semi) and we looked like rank amateurs as they passed the ball around for fun the possession stats and shots for us compared to them were depressing reading, and the FA Cup semi he threw away with bad substitutions and overly defensive tactics to hold onto the win (quelle surprise we lost).

But yes you’re correct that he had delivered two solid seventh place finishes that would appeal to many clubs.

Which leads into this:

at the end of this season he could have walked away for nothing and last season clubs would have put feelers out for him when sacking or looking to sack a manager, they made sure that if compo was due it would be the full amount as we have a position of strength to ask for what we want as he has years on a contract.

very clever business by fosun

 

[S G Wolves]

Partly, but let’s get your opening point correct;

he got us to a europa league quarter final (not semi) and we looked like rank amateurs as they passed the ball around for fun the possession stats and shots for us compared to them were depressing reading, and the FA Cup semi he threw away with bad substitutions and overly defensive tactics to hold onto the win (quelle surprise we lost).

But yes you’re correct that he had delivered two solid seventh place finishes that would appeal to many clubs.

Which leads into this:

at the end of this season he could have walked away for nothing and last season clubs would have put feelers out for him when sacking or looking to sack a manager, they made sure that if compo was due it would be the full amount as we have a position of strength to ask for what we want as he has years on a contract.

very clever business by fosun

What a load of twaddle.

They want to keep the best manager we have had in decades. Obviously they know more than fickle fans like the types of you....

 

[Leamwolf]

What a load of twaddle.

They want to keep the best manager we have had in decades. Obviously they know more than fickle fans like the types of you....

But do they know more, explain your rationale???

It isn’t twaddle, they are real events, real things that happened.

and for many of you, welcome to the modern world of sport as a business as that is how we are run in the prem. where you make sure any asset you have invested in doesn’t leave for free.

my honours degree in sports science from a top 3 global leader in the subject where I specialised in coaching and psychology with lectures by top people from the FA, RFU and ECB might beg to differ that I don’t know much......

my opinion is as valid as anyone else’s, and doesn’t make me less of a fan. Just a fan with a different perspective to you.

 

[Deleted member 11157]

Partly, but let’s get your opening point correct;

he got us to a europa league quarter final (not semi) and we looked like rank amateurs as they passed the ball around for fun the possession stats and shots for us compared to them were depressing reading, and the FA Cup semi he threw away with bad substitutions and overly defensive tactics to hold onto the win (quelle surprise we lost).

But yes you’re correct that he had delivered two solid seventh place finishes that would appeal to many clubs.

Which leads into this:

at the end of this season he could have walked away for nothing and last season clubs would have put feelers out for him when sacking or looking to sack a manager, they made sure that if compo was due it would be the full amount as we have a position of strength to ask for what we want as he has years on a contract.

very clever business by fosun

They offered him a contract because he has been successful and is the right man for the job. He has been our most successful manager in forty years. He still is highly prized and was rewarded. The fact that we are even competing at that level speaks volumes.

 

[Leamwolf]

They offered him a contract because he has been successful and is the right man for the job. He has been our most successful manager in forty years. He still is highly prized and was rewarded. The fact that we are even competing at that level speaks volumes.

I accepted that point that his league finishes deserved an extension, but they will also have extended to protect the club interms of compensation.


we are run as a business now and i bet the contract has decent Clauses for return to us if he were to take another role if he is with us or he goes during the contract extension period.

in the league this year, his decisions are starting to show he may no longer be the best man for the job.

The squad size, transfers and tactics coupled with subs sit with him alone and they are what is killing us now.

a lot of Arsenal supporting mates are saying the pain they now have isn’t due to Emery or arteta but from the legacy of wenger who stayed too long and created squad issues and cultures that are proving very hard to fix.

sentimentality isn’t always a good thing in sport and a manager like a player has a life cycle of effectiveness at a club. Nuno has never had a job this long, he gets sacked and it is for the same stuff we are seeing now......

 

[Deleted member 11157]

sentimentality isn’t always a good thing in sport and a manager like a player has a life cycle of effectiveness at a club. Nuno has never had a job this long, he gets sacked and it is for the same stuff we are seeing now......

The first blip, we sack the manager and we end up like Watford. To talk of Nuno having a life cycle of effectiveness is extremely premature and short-sighted. His current life cycle has seen him as the most successful manager at the club in forty years.

 

[Leamwolf]

The first blip, we sack the manager and we end up like Watford. To talk of Nuno having a life cycle of effectiveness is extremely premature and short-sighted. His current life cycle has seen him as the most successful manager at the club in forty years.

It isn’t the first blip though is it..... we have been very poor and a lesser team since the lock down resumption so approaching one year.

also how do we become like Watford??? Nuno has been into his fourth season..... bit of an over reach on the doom and gloom there buddy.

It isn’t premature or short sighted..... it is facts and history that tells you these things. Look at fergie, he changed his assistant head coach every few years. He didn’t let sentimental feelings affect his judgement, when things got stale or samey he changed it up to bring new life to his team and Utd.

nuno has failed every time to change from negativity, the squad and its short comings are down to him. If he doesn’t correct the ship soon, he needs to go as we run the risk of losing the jewels in the crown this summer and actually having to rebuild from an even worse position.

we support wolves and need to think bigger picture than right now, nuno has been amazing but it is the club we support and that is bigger than nuno.

I have loved the last few years under nuno, and would still be sad to see him leave but questions need to be asked about his future

 

[Deleted member 11157]

It isn’t the first blip though is it..... we have been very poor and a lesser team since the lock down resumption so approaching one year.

It isn’t premature or short sighted..... it is facts and history that tells you these things. Look at fergie, he changed his assistant head coach every few years. He didn’t let sentimental feelings affect his judgement.

nuno has failed every time to change from negativity, the squad and its short comings are down to him. If he doesn’t correct the ship soon, he needs to go as we run the risk of losing the jewels in the crown this summer and actually having to rebuild from an even worse position.

we support wolves and need to think bigger picture than right now, nuno has been amazing but it is the club we support and that is bigger than nuno.

I have loved the last few years under nuno, and would still be sad to see him leave but questions need to be asked about his future

What is it about the ' half the first team out injured ' and ' bunch of kids coming off the bench and competing with the top teams ' do you not understand? I for one do not base the future of the club on a set standard that in itself was probably two years ahead of the project plan.

 

[Deleted member 9788]

But do they know more, explain your rationale???

It isn’t twaddle, they are real events, real things that happened.

and for many of you, welcome to the modern world of sport as a business as that is how we are run in the prem. where you make sure any asset you have invested in doesn’t leave for free.

my honours degree in sports science from a top 3 global leader in the subject where I specialised in coaching and psychology with lectures by top people from the FA, RFU and ECB might beg to differ that I don’t know much......

my opinion is as valid as anyone else’s, and doesn’t make me less of a fan. Just a fan with a different perspective to you.

That's a lot of qualifications to work in a call centre bro

 

[Leamwolf]

What is it about the ' half the first team out injured ' and ' bunch of kids coming off the bench and competing with the top teams ' do you not understand? I for one do not base the future of the club on a set standard that in itself was probably two years ahead of the project plan.

I will answer your point and question to me in one moment.

But What don’t you understand that HE CHOSE to built a small squad in the most physically demanding league and didn’t build enough depth...... he knew the physical demands would be greater due to less recovery time and that is on him!!! Bar podence, the other injuries are muscular and look likely to have been caused by over use and fatigue. So that is solely resting at HIS door.

He didn’t add more quality he sold SIXTEEN goals and didn’t replace them and HE CHOSE to only have one senior striker, a receptor for disaster we all knew could happen. He replaced jota in the squad with Silva, a great prospect but not ready yet despite showing glimpses, jota going meant we only have THREE wide options instead of four, and with podence injured we only have two and Neto is knackered.

I understand the current options aren’t good enough but that is due to his planning and lack of foresight on the fact he didn’t add quality to the squad, he wanted 19 senior pros and to use the under 23’s. if you have ever listened to nuno or read an interview he has said this MANY times, so the plan has backfired.

plans and expectations on timescales can and do change due to the success of them if they are reached quickly.

 

[Tezthewolvesfan]

It isn’t the first blip though is it..... we have been very poor and a lesser team since the lock down resumption so approaching one year.

also how do we become like Watford??? Nuno has been into his fourth season..... bit of an over reach on the doom and gloom there buddy.

It isn’t premature or short sighted..... it is facts and history that tells you these things. Look at fergie, he changed his assistant head coach every few years. He didn’t let sentimental feelings affect his judgement, when things got stale or Sandy he changed it up to bring new life to his team and Utd.

nuno has failed every time to change from negativity, the squad and its short comings are down to him. If he doesn’t correct the ship soon, he needs to go as we run the risk of losing the jewels in the crown this summer and actually having to rebuild from an even worse position.

we support wolves and need to think bigger picture than right now, nuno has been amazing but it is the club we support and that is bigger than nuno.

I have loved the last few years under nuno, and would still be sad to see him leave but questions need to be asked about his future

And replace with who?...

 

[Leamwolf]

That's a lot of qualifications to work in a call centre bro

It would be if I did, but I actually have a very good job....... thanks to those qualifications and the opportunities they gave me and the recommendations I have from my cv from professional football clubs.......

if it weren’t for needing to help Family and not need to be near home every day, I would still be in that aspect of sport as my job.

so good points made and well argued to put my points down, wow you really showed me........

and well done for joining the people on this forum who instead of engaging in an open discussion would rather mock or try to belittle a fellow fan, you sir are a top notch bloke! I can only hope
To be as clever and articulate in my ways of communicating and discussion as you

 

[Leamwolf]

And replace with who?...

Well we talk about the borussia dortmond approach, their coach is now avaialable.

thomas tuchel (forgive spelling)

And I think allegri is looking for a challenge too.

 

[Deleted member 9788]

Well we talk about the borussia dortmond approach, their coach is now avaialable.

thomas tuchel (forgive spelling)

And I think allegri is looking for a challenge too.

You need to return your degree bro. Tuchel has just been sacked from psg. Left Dortmund in 2017

 

[Tezthewolvesfan]

Well we talk about the borussia dortmond approach, their coach is now avaialable.

thomas tuchel (forgive spelling)

And I think allegri is looking for a challenge too.

We need stability and changing the manager does not bring this, yes we have a week squad, however we also have injuries along with Nuno trying different things.

Be careful what you wish for

 

[WickedWolfie]

You need to return your degree bro. Tuchel has just been sacked from psg. Left Dortmund in 2017

Well, Tuchel is certainly available ( l seriously doubt that he comes free) but as you say it's been some time since he was Dortmund's coach....

 

[Leamwolf]

You need to return your degree bro. Tuchel has just been sacked from psg. Left Dortmund in 2017

I know tuchel just got. Sacked by PSG.....

but Dortmund sacked their new manager not three weeks ago so good attack “BRO”

learn to read pal, I separated tuchel and the most recent Dortmund manager. So were separate people.......

so if you want to make nasty and sarcky points, come correct and READ......

 

[Pagey]

But do they know more, explain your rationale???

It isn’t twaddle, they are real events, real things that happened.

and for many of you, welcome to the modern world of sport as a business as that is how we are run in the prem. where you make sure any asset you have invested in doesn’t leave for free.

my honours degree in sports science from a top 3 global leader in the subject where I specialised in coaching and psychology with lectures by top people from the FA, RFU and ECB might beg to differ that I don’t know much......

my opinion is as valid as anyone else’s, and doesn’t make me less of a fan. Just a fan with a different perspective to you.

Yeah but I have a conviction for growing weed, doesn't mean I can lay the best pitch

 

[WickedWolfie]

Well we talk about the borussia dortmond approach, their coach is now avaialable.

thomas tuchel (forgive spelling)

And I think allegri is looking for a challenge too.

I seem to recall Charlton fans saying similar things about Curbishley.... That went well....

 

[Deleted member 9788]

I know tuchel just got. Sacked by PSG.....

but I Dortmund sacked their new manager not three weeks ago.

I know English is my second language but I didn't understand a word of what you just said mate

 

[Leamwolf]

I know English is my second language but I didn't understand a word of what you just said mate

Apologies..... I typed too quick on my phone and predictive text screwed it up......

I had separated tuchel and the last dortmond coach who got sacked on the 14th of December.......

so learn to read that one buddy...... the fact they are on separate lines shows it is different people.

so before belittling another’s education, read properly yourself as your “attack/mocking” didn’t work as you didn’t read it properly making you look a bit stupid.

 

[Leamwolf]

Yeah but I have a conviction for growing weed, doesn't mean I can lay the best pitch

You would be better than me at it lol

 

[Deleted member 9788]

We need stability and changing the manager does not bring this, yes we have a week squad, however we also have injuries along with Nuno trying different things.

Be careful what you wish for

Well, Tuchel is certainly available ( l seriously doubt that he comes free) but as you say it's been some time since he was Dortmund's coach....

The issue with Nuno is he got a doctorate from Wolverhampton university which I believe is only a paltry 58 rank for sports for science hence why I think he's useless and we should sack him. Any properly ran club would employ someone with a doctorate from the top 3 ranked univerisites in my opinion.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I know English is my second language but I didn't understand a word of what you just said mate

It is my first language and, for whatever reason (crap formatting?), made very little sense to me either.

 

[Leamwolf]

The issue with Nuno is he got a doctorate from Wolverhampton university which I believe is only a paltry 58 rank for sports for science hence why I think he's useless and we should sack him. Any properly ran club would employ someone with a doctorate from the top 3 ranked univerisites in my opinion.

It is an honorary thing mate, he didn’t study for it. It was free advertising and exposure for the uni, a lot of universities offer them out.

so your point is mute and nonsensical from the start.

if he had studied for it while here well done, but he didn’t so too bad......