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1972 i began said:
I read somewhere that Modric has turned down a 3 year contract worth 170m.Dow know if it was a **** take or not.
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Probably true. That’s what you call a true winner.
Probably wants one more crack at the champions league, for a likely never beaten career haul of 6.
 
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hollo said:
Gonçalo Guedes, 26, will be part of Benfica's squad for 2023/24, A BOLA learned from a source very close to the player, still recovering from the surgical intervention he underwent in the final part of the last championship.

The player, from Wolverhampton's staff, will thus remain at Luz to fulfill a new loan from the English club, as was the will of Guedes and those responsible for the reds.

This is, of course, good news for the Benfica fans, who see in Gonçalo Guedes someone with the mystique and charisma of the house where he trained, and who left in January 2016 to join the Paris Saint-Germain squad.

Since then, Gonçalo Guedes has already defended the jerseys of Valencia, from Spain, for five seasons, and, finally, half a season at Wolverhampton, from the Premier League, until he returned to Luz, on a permanent basis, last January.

Injuries, however, prevented the player from giving everything he wanted to Benfica and everything that was the expectation of Benfica supporters and officials.

Guedes returned, at the end of May, to undergo clinical intervention on his left knee, after having already been forced, on that same knee, to undergo meniscus arthroscopy in March.

The recovery period is estimated to be relatively long, and in that sense, Gonçalo Guedes is not expected to be able to start the new season with his teammates
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"Returned to Luz on a permanent basis" but now "going to fulfill a new loan".... Sounds a bit confused to me (unless they have a commitment to buy after a certain number of appearances for example).
 
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Tbf Mendes is clearly getting right in there with the Saudi league, so it could be very good for us shifting players on. If we could move on a couple more over there for £20m or so apiece, problem solved.
 
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JOSWolf said:
I will actually be surprised if Adama doesnt end up in Saudi now. One of those clubs will pay him a fortune. Could see the likes of Jonny and Raul being targets and maybe Podence.
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indeed He was linked with Al ittihad which is Nuno’s club last week but Real Betis also want him apparently, his faith is important to him so SArabia would make sense from that perspective
 
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WeAreTheWolvesII said:
Another one that makes no sense.

They can get absolutely nowhere near the fee we should want for Fabio.

Really don't get what's going on here. Why are clubs thinking they can sign him when they won't (or shouldn't) be able to afford him?
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Unless they have players they can offer us. Which I think is the only way.

No team is going to pay us 35 million and we wont take a loss on him
 
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WeAreTheWolvesII said:
Another one that makes no sense.

They can get absolutely nowhere near the fee we should want for Fabio.

Really don't get what's going on here. Why are clubs thinking they can sign him when they won't (or shouldn't) be able to afford him?
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He's probably going for a lot less than you think. I'd think £20m max.
 
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The Wolf In The North said:
Getting surreal now.

I know we're joking about it, but honestly, we have a job lot that's theirs if they want to name a price. It really is house clearance time.
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Free agents though. Neves I feel was a favour to Mendes so he can get back in favour with us. Chelsea are selling a host of players to Saudi clubs but apparently there's some dodgy links there between Chelsea's owners and the Saudi's.
 
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Bill McCai said:
www.telegraph.co.uk

European rivals of Chelsea and Wolves call for inquiry into Saudi spending spree

Exclusive: Saudi Pro League officials are in London this week to discuss deals with both clubs who are trying to meet FFP rules
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European rivals of Chelsea and Wolves call for inquiry into Saudi spending spree​

Exclusive: Saudi Pro League officials are in London this week to discuss deals with both clubs who are trying to meet FFP rules



European rivals of Chelsea and Wolves are calling for fair market investigations into Saudi Arabia’s dramatic haul of big money signings. One top club says teams are using the Saudi Pro League as a “get out of FFP jail free card” while the state embarks on its £500m player spree. The league, which has already signed Karim Benzema this summer, is now turning its attention to Premier League targets.

Telegraph Sport understands the competition, underwritten by Saudi’s Public Investment Fund, is in London this week to clinch a host of deals. It is thought Chelsea alone were originally presented with a proposal for five players amounting to more than £100 million - although one of them, Romelu Lukaku, has since rejected an offer.

The situation is dream timing for clubs attempting to offload star names but is already drawing warnings from rival clubs about potential market distortions.

With negotiations at various different stages for Hakim Ziyech, Kalidou Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, rivals are demanding scrutiny, not least because the deals could play a major part in ensuring Chelsea and other clubs are able to meet the Premier League’s financial rules next year.

Wolves could also take a major step towards satisfying FFP after agreeing a £47m deal to sell captain Ruben Neves to Al Hilal. The Premier League handbook already has a Fair Value Assessment Protocol that must be followed by clubs, but one leading European rival suggested “live investigations” into all the Saudi deals were needed from Uefa due to the scale of potential player investments.

“PIF has so many investments around the world that it should be compelled to prove there are no conflicts of interest as it spends big with its bottomless pit of cash on ageing players,” said one European club, on condition of anonymity. “Watch clubs use Saudi this summer across Europe as a get out of FFP jail free card. It becomes even murkier should PIF have investment interest in both the selling and buying club.”

This sudden spending spree from PIF, a consortium of which owns Newcastle, comes after the fund took over four clubs - including Al Hilal. The plan is to rapidly grow their values ahead of privatising the teams.

Chelsea sources claim interest in their players is purely transactional and down to the club’s popularity in the Middle East. The club denies that PIF has any existing financial interest in the club, despite reports that Clearlake, which owns about 60 per cent of Chelsea, has prior minority investment from PIF.

Chelsea reported a loss of £121 million for last season​

Todd Boehly and Jonathan Goldstein, two leading figures in the club’s ownership structure, have been linked with separate business ventures with the huge wealth fund as recently as last summer. Real estate firm Cain International, which lists Goldstein as CEO and Boehly as board members, launched a joint project with PIF in August in a $900million investment in luxury hotel group Aman.

Although Chelsea maintain they were already confident about meeting profit and sustainability rules, significant player outgoings were inevitable after £600 million was spent in the past two transfer windows. The club reported a loss of £121 million for last season, despite making a large profit on player sales, and that followed losses of £153.4 million for 2020-21.

Kieran Maguire, a lecturer in football finance at Liverpool University, told Telegraph Sport “if the fees look unusual” then the Premier League could investigate the matter further.

However, he added: “What they can’t do is look at the equally big issue of Chelsea needing to shift costs off their payroll.”
Sources close to Chelsea maintained PIF has “zero financial interest or any other interest in Chelsea” and that had been thoroughly vetted at the time of the acquisition.

Clearlake has made approximately 450 investments unrelated to Chelsea and has invested with or received investment from approximately 400 investors across six continents, an insider added. Potential deals this summer will be “purely transactional”.

The Saudi spending splurge, meanwhile, is part of the kingdom’s Vision 2030, which aims for the revenue of the league to increase to £400 million annually by 2030. State sources are defiant over deals being offered. They point to the rapid success at Newcastle in recent years, saying Western scepticism is being overcome.
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First impression is that PIF's investment in Chelsea's owners got rumbled and now we're getting dragged along for the ride.
 
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Skrilla said:
Free agents though. Neves I feel was a favour to Mendes so he can get back in favour with us. Chelsea are selling a host of players to Saudi clubs but apparently there's some dodgy links there between Chelsea's owners and the Saudi's.
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You mean these claims???

www.sportingnews.com

Are Chelsea owned by Saudi Arabia PIF? Clearlake Capital and Todd Boehly takeover explained amid transfer news

Football club ownership is a hot topic right now, particularly in the Premier League, with Chelsea's structure currently under scrutiny.
www.sportingnews.com www.sportingnews.com
 
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Wolf in Kenilworth said:
Hilarious.

I haven’t read the full article as it’s a paywall but does that mean we are selling them
more than ‘just’ Neves potentially?
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It seems to be more aimed at Chelsea to be honest but they've mentioned us due to the Neves deal.
 
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Mostly about Chelsea

Wolves could also take a major step towards satisfying FFP after agreeing a £47m deal to sell captain Ruben Neves to Al Hilal. The Premier League handbook already has a Fair Value Assessment Protocol that must be followed by clubs, but one leading European rival suggested “live investigations” into all the Saudi deals were needed from Uefa due to the scale of potential player investments.

“PIF has so many investments around the world that it should be compelled to prove there are no conflicts of interest as it spends big with its bottomless pit of cash on ageing players,” said one European club, on condition of anonymity. “Watch clubs use Saudi this summer across Europe as a get out of FFP jail free card. It becomes even murkier should PIF have investment interest in both the selling and buying club.
 
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WeAreTheWolvesII said:
Another one that makes no sense.

They can get absolutely nowhere near the fee we should want for Fabio.

Really don't get what's going on here. Why are clubs thinking they can sign him when they won't (or shouldn't) be able to afford him?
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His contract runs out in 2025-26, that means his Agent doesn't get a big paycheck for another 3 years on one of his main clients.
Expect more clickbait Fabio headlines every transfer window.
What Fabio wants doesn't come into it, he's on £4,160,000 per year until 2026-2027 season arrives.
His Agent get no big paycheck unless there's a clamour for his signature whipped up.
It means nothing..
 
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Right, it’s possible by the time the season starts we could of sold Neves, Kilman, Fabio, Collins, Ait Nouri, Raul, and Podence. On top of that Costa and Adama are out of contract so have moved on. We got a massive summer ahead.
 
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Skrilla said:
Oh dear that doesn't read well does it... UEFA are very big on "fair value" now, and with Neves in the last year of his deal, getting £50m for him is going to be heavily scrutinised...
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Maybe so but Maddison is being touted for £50m with a year left meaning ~£45m for Neves with 12 months left isn't unthinkable.
 
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