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"Wolves the only club in the World without a Sporting Director." Bruno was keen for him to stay, but club wouldn't budge on the offer of a one year contract. Saiss felt disrespected by S & S. It wasn't about the money. His love for the club shines, but don't think S & S will be receiving a Xmas Card from Saiss household. The Wolves players love for Nuno evident & didn't mention any discontent in the ranks about Bruno.
 
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Rhyl Wolf said:
"Wolves the only club in the World without a Sporting Director." Bruno was keen for him to stay, but club wouldn't budge on the offer of a one year contract. Saiss felt disrespected by S & S. It wasn't about the money. His love for the club shines, but don't think S & S will be receiving a Xmas Card from Saiss household. The Wolves players love for Nuno evident & didn't mention any discontent in the ranks about Bruno.
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Nothing unsurprisingly then really
Perhaps people will stop blaming Bruno for players leaving
 
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Paddy Wolf said:
I thought Coady left because he wants guaranteed first team football before the World Cup?
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There was an interview not long after he left where it was said he was frozen out and Bruno didn’t even speak to him when he was looking to leave.
 
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Rhyl Wolf said:
"Wolves the only club in the World without a Sporting Director." Bruno was keen for him to stay, but club wouldn't budge on the offer of a one year contract. Saiss felt disrespected by S & S. It wasn't about the money. His love for the club shines, but don't think S & S will be receiving a Xmas Card from Saiss household. The Wolves players love for Nuno evident & didn't mention any discontent in the ranks about Bruno.
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Can’t say that’s surprising or against what many were saying at the end of the season.

Yes he would be a good squad player but without knowing how much he was on, I can understand why only a one year contract.
 
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wolfslair said:
And who was in charge of planning that?????

The bloke sheep like you keep apologising for when he is woefully inept at the job he is currently in.
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Bloke sheep? I don't even know what was meant to mean.

We have one central striker position.
It looks like the club wanted 2 players to cover that role which is fairly standard.
Sending young Fabio out on loan made sense at the time if he was going to be behind Jimenez and one other.

Jimenez was injured in pre-season, came back is now out again.
Kaladjzic got injured on his debut (having passed a medical) so they had to move quickly to bring in Diego Costa.

It's just bad luck to have the two central strikers injured in the medium-to-long term.

I don't think Sellars can be blamed for that.
 
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Paddy Wolf said:
Bloke sheep? I don't even know what was meant to mean.

We have one central striker position.
It looks like the club wanted 2 players to cover that role which is fairly standard.
Sending young Fabio out on loan made sense at the time if he was going to be behind Jimenez and one other.

Jimenez was injured in pre-season, came back is now out again.
Kaladjzic got injured on his debut (having passed a medical) so they had to move quickly to bring in Diego Costa.

It's just bad luck to have the two central strikers injured in the medium-to-long term.

I don't think Sellars can be blamed for that.
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So they had Raul, who was injured and hasn’t been the same since the head injury. Then they had Kaladjzic who nobody else touched with a barge pole because of his injury record prior?

Also, passing a medical means nothing. It’s not a fitness test, it’s a risk assessment. They gambled on him out of desperation. Was it unlucky to do his cruciate first game? Yes, of course. But his record suggests that he would have been injured by now anyway.
 
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Paddy Wolf said:
Bloke sheep? I don't even know what was meant to mean.

We have one central striker position.
It looks like the club wanted 2 players to cover that role which is fairly standard.
Sending young Fabio out on loan made sense at the time if he was going to be behind Jimenez and one other.

Jimenez was injured in pre-season, came back is now out again.
Kaladjzic got injured on his debut (having passed a medical) so they had to move quickly to bring in Diego Costa.

It's just bad luck to have the two central strikers injured in the medium-to-long term.

I don't think Sellars can be blamed for that.
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Fabio should not have gone without a replacement coming in at the same time. As has been said we couldn’t and shouldn’t have been relying on Raul who hasn't been the same since his horrific injury.
 
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SuperGran said:
Nothing unsurprisingly then really
Perhaps people will stop blaming Bruno for players leaving
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To be fair I think the only player that left where people are upset with Bruno was Coady. He didnt want Saiss, Dendoncker or Ruddy to leave. Those going are on Shi and Sellars and not Bruno.
 
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JOSWolf said:
To be fair I think the only player that left where people are upset with Bruno was Coady. He didnt want Saiss, Dendoncker or Ruddy to leave. Those going are on Shi and Sellars and not Bruno.
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Not bad for a 9 year old, only joking mate! ;)
 
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SuperGran said:
I’ve seen a few people saying that dendoncker and saiss and boly left cos of Bruno
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Nope. He wanted both Dendoncker and Saiss to stay. Dendoncker he wanted to keep but Shi and Sellars knew better on deadline day!
 
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JOSWolf said:
To be fair I think the only player that left where people are upset with Bruno was Coady. He didnt want Saiss, Dendoncker or Ruddy to leave. Those going are on Shi and Sellars and not Bruno.
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Nope. He wanted both Dendoncker and Saiss to stay. Dendoncker he wanted to keep but Shi and Sellars knew better on deadline day!
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I was agreeing Jos
 
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JOSWolf said:
On Saiss. I agreed at the time he should go but thought we would at least replace some of the outgoings with some leaders/ experience but we havent and that was a big error in the summer, in my opinion.
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But it sounds like we did want to keep him, but only a one year contract he wanted two. So far everything points to this being the sticking point. Do wolves back down and given him two years or should Saiss have backed down?

There were rumours the same was said of Moutinho but he signed for one year.
 
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SuperGran said:
Not an issue with players leaving it’s the lack of replacement
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Thats what I think. Put it this way. If I had known we were not going to be adding any experience or leaders I would have been saying keep Saiss and Coady or at least one of them.
 
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SuperGran said:
Not an issue with players leaving it’s the lack of replacement
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Exactly this.

No one was particularly moaning about those that left.

I have no issue with Fabio going out on loan, if anything think it was the right thing and we will benefit for it, but he should only have gone once someone was through the door. Not close or in discussion but signed and sealed.
 
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NottsWolves said:
But it sounds like we did want to keep him, but only a one year contract he wanted two. So far everything points to this being the sticking point. Do wolves back down and given him two years or should Saiss have backed down?

There were rumours the same was said of Moutinho but he signed for one year.
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Moutinho you can understand as he is 36. Saiss 32 though. If we really wanted to keep him it should have been a 2 year deal. You can understand from his point of view how a 1 year contract felt like a bit of an insult. I'd argue whether we really wanted to keep him. The head coach clearly did but the powers that be? I dont think so.
 
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