Loan Thread 2023/24

[NothingButNeto]

Of all our players out on loan, who is most likely to come back and make an impact for us?

Dexter, Yerson, Chiquinho?

Chiqunho can’t play for us this season. He has already played for two clubs, so he’s in Portugal for the season. Probably for the best instead of riding the bench.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Chiqunho can’t play for us this season. He has already played for two clubs, so he’s in Portugal for the season. Probably for the best instead of riding the bench.

Hoover

 

[giantwolf]

Thursday 9th November

Bendeguz Bolla played 90 mins as Servette beat Tiraspol 2-1 at home in the Europa

Daniel Podence played76 mins and was booked as Olympiacos lost 1-0 away at West Ham

Saturday 11th November

Ki Jana Hoever played 79 mins as Stoke drew 0-0 away at Coventry. That was Ki Janas 15th appearance

Luke Cundle played 90 mins and provided an assist (his third of the season) as Plymouth lost 2-1 away at Leeds. He was also voted MOTM. Luke now has one goal more but the same assists than his loan at Swansea… but in half the amount of games



Dexter Lembikisa played 90 mins as Rotherham were beaten 5-0 away at Watford

Chem Campbell wasn’t in the Charlton squad as they drew 2-2 away at Portsmouth

Tyler Roberts came on from the final 6 mins (his first appearance in 7 games) as Doncaster lost 2-0 away at AFC Wimbledon

Ollie Tipton wasn’t in the Notts County squad as Notts C lost 1-0 away at Crewe

Alfie Pond wasn’t in the Stockport squad as they beat Swindon 4-2

Harvey Griffiths was again an unused substitute for Walsall in their 1-0 loss at home to Harrogate

Louie Moulden played 90 mins as Rochdale lost 3-2 late on against Wealdstone

Chiquinho played 66 mins as Famalicao drew 0-0 away at Vizela

 

[SuperGran]

Cundleinho!

 

[Boss Hogg]

Maybe it’s just me, but when I see these clubs not playing our youngsters I always hope that they go on and lose the game

 

[Wagstaffe Was Magic]

Thursday 9th November

Bendeguz Bolla played 90 mins as Servette beat Tiraspol 2-1 at home in the Europa

Daniel Podence played76 mins and was booked as Olympiacos lost 1-0 away at West Ham

Saturday 11th November

Ki Jana Hoever played 79 mins as Stoke drew 0-0 away at Coventry. That was Ki Janas 15th appearance

Luke Cundle played 90 mins and provided an assist (his third of the season) as Plymouth lost 2-1 away at Leeds. He was also voted MOTM. Luke now has one goal more but the same assists than his loan at Swansea… but in half the amount of games

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Dexter Lembikisa played 90 mins as Rotherham were beaten 5-0 away at Watford

Chem Campbell wasn’t in the Charlton squad as they drew 2-2 away at Portsmouth

Tyler Roberts came on from the final 6 mins (his first appearance in 7 games) as Doncaster lost 2-0 away at AFC Wimbledon

Ollie Tipton wasn’t in the Notts County squad as Notts C lost 1-0 away at Crewe

Alfie Pond wasn’t in the Stockport squad as they beat Swindon 4-2

Harvey Griffiths was again an unused substitute for Walsall in their 1-0 loss at home to Harrogate

Louie Moulden played 90 mins as Rochdale lost 3-2 late on against Wealdstone

Chiquinho played 66 mins as Famalicao drew 0-0 away at Vizela

Thanks yet again giantwolf, much appreciated

 

[giantwolf]

Sunday 12th November

Theo Corbeanu & Nigel Lonwijk are both injured so were absent as Grasshoppers beat Lausanne Ouchy, 5-2

Bendeguz Bolla played 60 mins as Servette beat bottom of the league Basel, 4-1

Daniel Podence was subbed on at half time, but was replaced two minutes from the end as Olympiacos beat Asteras 2-0 away. Not sure if injury related.

Goncalo Guedes came on with 3 minutes of normal time to play with Benfica trailing 1-0 to a Victor Gyokeres goal for Sporting. Two very late injury time goals saw Benfica come out winners 2-1.

 

[MattH]

Sunday 12th November

Theo Corbeanu & Nigel Lonwijk are both injured so were absent as Grasshoppers beat Lausanne Ouchy, 5-2

Bendeguz Bolla played 60 mins as Servette beat bottom of the league Basel, 4-1

Daniel Podence was subbed on at half time, but was replaced two minutes from the end as Olympiacos beat Asteras 2-0 away. Not sure if injury related.

Goncalo Guedes came on with 3 minutes of normal time to play with Benfica trailing 1-0 to a Victor Gyokeres goal for Sporting. Two very late injury time goals saw Benfica come out winners 2-1.

Guedes isn't getting much game time with Benfica is he. Still recovering from that injury?

 

[giantwolf]

Guedes isn't getting much game time with Benfica is he. Still recovering from that injury?

he's featured in 7 of the last 8 but yes 4 of those have been less than 10 minutes each.

They are top of the league so won't be automatically playing and tbh, he wasn't getting loads of minutes in the loan last season (he featured regularly, but again was limited to sub appearances).

He needs to stay fit, then hopefully take his opportunity when it comes, maybe then it'll kick on

 

[giantwolf]

Tuesday 14th November

Harvey Griffiths came on in the 39th minute to make only his 3rd Walsall appearance as they lost 3-2 away at Shrewsbury. He was also booked

Alfie Pond played 90 mins and was booked at Stockport lost 2-0 at home to Bolton in the EFL Trophy. Former wolf Jon Dadi Bodvarsson scored both goals

Tyler Roberts was again an unused substitute as Doncaster beat Accrington 2-1 to progress to the next round of the FA Cup

 

[WKFWolf]

Chem not getting a look in again tonight for Charlton, I know they've changed manager but any other reason? Was hopeful to see him get some games there

Edit : 8 minutes of normal time left 5-1 up

 

[jackdusty]

Chem not getting a look in again tonight for Charlton, I know they've changed manager but any other reason? Was hopeful to see him get some games there

On for the last 8 plus injury time.

 

[WKFWolf]

On for the last 8 plus injury time.

Yeh glad to see. I know he played in the first game. Feel like he's got real potential but he need game time

 

[giantwolf]

Nigel Lonwijk's loan at Grasshoppers has been officially ended due to a torn hamstring

 

[Boss Hogg]

Nigel Lonwijk's loan at Grasshoppers has been officially ended due to a torn hamstring

That’s sad news for him. Going to Grasshoppers was a mistake, imho, we should have tried to get him another season at Plymouth - a season in the Championship would have been a better test for him.

 

[Clipboard]

That’s sad news for him. Going to Grasshoppers was a mistake, imho, we should have tried to get him another season at Plymouth - a season in the Championship would have been a better test for him.

100 percent

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

100 percent

I had high hopes for him too

 

[Madmalc]

Nigel Lonwijk's loan at Grasshoppers has been officially ended due to a torn hamstring

Let's hope he comes back stronger.

 

[giantwolf]

That’s sad news for him. Going to Grasshoppers was a mistake, imho, we should have tried to get him another season at Plymouth - a season in the Championship would have been a better test for him.

He wasn't getting loads of game time at the back end of his loan to Plymouth, so absolutely no guarantee they'd have played him in the Championship.

Besides, an injured player is an injured player - he hasn't played at Grasshoppers because he's been injured. No one would know if he'd have picked up no injuries if he'd have gone somewhere different

 

[topcat99]

Alfie Pond didn’t feature for Stockport yesterday.

However he was definitely doing a fitness test an hour before kick off and looked a bit uncomfortable. So possibly why he didn’t make the bench.

The manager mentioned that the club had a lot of fixtures in the next 6 weeks and that all first team players will be featuring as he intends to rotate and utilise the squad.

 

[giantwolf]

Saturday 18th November

No Ollie Tipton for Notts C in their 4-2 home win over Bradford City

As above from @topcat99 , no Alfie Pond for Stockport in their 2-0 win over Colchester

90 mins for Louie Moulden as Rochdale beat Aldershot 2-1

 

[Supadavewolf]

Apologies if this, off Wikipedia, has been posted elsewhere ("Dale" short for Rochdale)

"The 21-year-old is the son of former Dale striker Paul Moulden, who played 21 games for the club in the 1995/96 season, and the grandson of Tony Moulden, who appeared eight times in the 1960s."

Nice family link there, didn't realise.

I like Louie, always looked a good prospect to me. Might not make it with us - though he's still a" kid"in the world of goalkeeping so time is on his side - but seems to have a great attitude and hopefully a good career ahead of him.

 

[giantwolf]

Tuesday 21st November

Chem Campbell was an unused substitute as Charlton beat Sutton 3-0

Louie Moulden kept a clean sheet and saved a penalty as Rochdale beat Altrincham 3-0

 

[Premier Quality]

Excellent article in the athletic on Mosquera and what a brilliant loan he’s had

“He’s in the conversation for defender of the year with what he’s meant for our group; his recovery over distance — nobody’s running by him — his ability to win tackles, to defend the box, to read service and how to challenge.

“On the ball, his comfort level to play out of pressure and his decision making continues to improve. He’s been instrumental in our success. If you look at the entirety of our league and what players can play at top clubs, Yerson is one of them. He’s an elite talent.

“He has the ability to be one of the best defenders on a bigger stage. I know that sounds like a reach, but he can get there. He’s a great kid. I hope he gets there.”

 

[SuperGran]

Excellent article in the athletic on Mosquera and what a brilliant loan he’s had

“He’s in the conversation for defender of the year with what he’s meant for our group; his recovery over distance — nobody’s running by him — his ability to win tackles, to defend the box, to read service and how to challenge.

“On the ball, his comfort level to play out of pressure and his decision making continues to improve. He’s been instrumental in our success. If you look at the entirety of our league and what players can play at top clubs, Yerson is one of them. He’s an elite talent.

“He has the ability to be one of the best defenders on a bigger stage. I know that sounds like a reach, but he can get there. He’s a great kid. I hope he gets there.”

Sounds like he’d fit into how we play perfectly

 

[Supadavewolf]

Sounds like he’d fit into how we play perfectly

Yes, and he'd also be with an experienced pro (Dawson) from who he'd learn, plus a couple of role models (Kilman and Toti) who have come from relatively nowhere to develop into quality PL defenders.

 

[LW1]

The article suggests he is off to Championship in January.

 

[Jonzy54]

As an aside what was the name of the winger we picked up from Chelsea (I think it was under Jackett) who I don’t think played many minutes for us before going on loan to a League2 side? He didn’t play much there either and eventually got released and I think went non League if memory serves me right

 

[lets all have a disco]

The article suggests he is off to Championship in January.

Could well be ....we would all like him to get a chance for the remainder of the season... BUT the problem Yerson will have going forward is he will need to be named in the 17 foreign spots....

Obviously he could replace Jonny but we would need to shift Jonny ...and we may have other positions like striker we want to use a spot for....

It's not as straightforward normally as just get him back ....

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

As an aside what was the name of the winger we picked up from Chelsea (I think it was under Jackett) who I don’t think played many minutes for us before going on loan to a League2 side? He didn’t play much there either and eventually got released and I think went non League if memory serves me right

Conor Hunte? Was playing for Dulwich Hamlet a few seasons ago

 

[Jonzy54]

Conor Hunte? Was playing for Dulwich Hamlet a few seasons ago

That’s him
Thanks

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Could well be ....we would all like him to get a chance for the remainder of the season... BUT the problem Yerson will have going forward is he will need to be named in the 17 foreign spots....

Obviously he could replace Jonny but we would need to shift Jonny ...and we may have other positions like striker we want to use a spot for....

It's not as straightforward normally as just get him back ....

It’ll be a balancing act with Yerson with regards the foreign spot (unless he doesn’t count due ti his age when he signed, the rules seem to move?) but also what’s best for his development as he needs playing time. If he comes back he’s fifth choice CB in a “three”, so it’s a struggle to see him getting game time unless we get a couple of injuries. Personally I’d gamble and send him to the championship and use the 4 cb’s we have and hope on injuries. Whilst not ideal we do have a few who could “fill in” for suspensions in Johnny, Doc and Lemina who have all played in a back 3 in the past. Not tempting fate but it’s unlikely we get two cb’s injured long term

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

That’s him
Thanks

I only know as I was visiting a pal in London and we went to a DH game, surprisingly due to the levels he’d dropped that he didn’t stand out at all

 

[Northampton_wolf]

It’ll be a balancing act with Yerson with regards the foreign spot (unless he doesn’t count due ti his age when he signed, the rules seem to move?) but also what’s best for his development as he needs playing time. If he comes back he’s fifth choice CB in a “three”, so it’s a struggle to see him getting game time unless we get a couple of injuries. Personally I’d gamble and send him to the championship and use the 4 cb’s we have and hope on injuries. Whilst not ideal we do have a few who could “fill in” for suspensions in Johnny, Doc and Lemina who have all played in a back 3 in the past. Not tempting fate but it’s unlikely we get two cb’s injured long term

He takes a foreign spot.

But jonny is the most likely to be moved on, we still need a striker though

 

[SuperGran]

He takes a foreign spot.

But jonny is the most likely to be moved on, we still need a striker though

Unless we go for a HG striker?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

He takes a foreign spot.

But jonny is the most likely to be moved on, we still need a striker though

Jonny will take some engineering out the door in my opinion. His injury record is poor, his game time for two seasons is low (when he has played he’s been below average) and his wages are astronomical for the average La Liga team to play. He may be the first player in a long time at wolves where we have to pay him off and go down the “mutual consent” route. It’s a shame as he was different class at one point, but those injuries have really done for him

 

[WickedWolfie]

Jonny will take some engineering out the door in my opinion. His injury record is poor, his game time for two seasons is low (when he has played he’s been below average) and his wages are astronomical for the average La Liga team to play. He may be the first player in a long time at wolves where we have to pay him off and go down the “mutual consent” route. It’s a shame as he was different class at one point, but those injuries have really done for him

He is still highly professional from all accounts but apparently just not physically up to the PL any more.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

He is still highly professional from all accounts but apparently just not physically up to the PL any more.

Oh god yeah, he doesn’t come over a bad egg and he’ll know himself that he’s finished at that level. Begs the question would you walk away from a lucrative contract in that position? I know I wouldn’t, I’d sit my time out at wolves and then as a free transfer he’ll maximise his wages again in what realistically will probably be his last professional one. Is that a sporting prospect? Absolutely not but it’s a financial one and he has to do right by himself and his family.

It’s not much of a different scenario to Phil Jones had at United, they desperately tried to offload him due to injury but he sat it out knowing financially for him and his family it was the correct thing to do

 

[lets all have a disco]

It’ll be a balancing act with Yerson with regards the foreign spot (unless he doesn’t count due ti his age when he signed, the rules seem to move?) but also what’s best for his development as he needs playing time. If he comes back he’s fifth choice CB in a “three”, so it’s a struggle to see him getting game time unless we get a couple of injuries. Personally I’d gamble and send him to the championship and use the 4 cb’s we have and hope on injuries. Whilst not ideal we do have a few who could “fill in” for suspensions in Johnny, Doc and Lemina who have all played in a back 3 in the past. Not tempting fate but it’s unlikely we get two cb’s injured long term

Once you are over 21 and foreign, you will have to be named .....We can all want them to stay but can you fit them in the quota ...that's the balancing act....if not they will have to go out on loan...

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Once you are over 21 and foreign, you will have to be named .....We can all want them to stay but can you fit them in the quota ...that's the balancing act....if not they will have to go out on loan...

Personally I think second half of the season in the championship would be great for his development. Come back in the summer and have a proper look preseason