Loan Thread 2023/24

[giantwolf]

The loans will soon be picking up and those already on loan, their friendly games are starting, so time for this seasons loan thread.

As before the first post will be a list of the loans we have in place and I’ll provide updates ongoing as and when.

Goalkeepers:

Louie Moulden - Rochdale (National League) - season long with a release clause if another club comes in for him (u21/homegrown)

Stan Amos - Wolverhampton Casuals (Midland Football League Premier Division (step 5) - season long (u21/HG)



Defenders:

Nigel Lonwijk - Grasshoppers (Swiss Super League) - season long (u21/Homegrown) LOAN ENDED DUE TO INJURY

Yerson Mosquera - Cincinnati (MLS) - November 2023 (Quota)

Ki-Jana Hoever - Stoke (Championship) - season long (Homegrown/Quota) (Jan recall option)

Dexter Lembikisa - Rotherham (Championship) - season long (Homegrown/u21)

Bendequz Bolla - Servette (Swiss Super League) - season long (Quota) with an option to buy

Alfie Pond - Stockport (League Two) - season long (Homegrown/u21)

Ollie Tipton - Notts County (League Two) - season long (Homegrown/u21)


Midfielders:

Chiquinho - Stoke (Championship) - season long (Quota) (January recall option)

Chiquinho - Famalicao (Liga Portugal) - season long (Quota)

Luke Cundle - Plymouth (Championship) - season long (Homegrown/Quota) (January recall option)

Harvey Griffiths - Walsall (League Two) - season long (Homegrown/u21)

Forwards:

Tyler Roberts - Doncaster (League 2)- season long (u21/Homegrown)

Theo Corbeanu - Grasshoppers (Swiss Super League) - season long (Homegrown/Quota)

Chem Campbell - Charlton Athletic (League One) - season long (Homegrown/u21)

Goncalo Guedes - Benfica (Liga Portugal) - season long (Quota)

Daniel Podence - Olympiacos (Greek Super League) - season long (Quota)

Totals:

Out on loan = 16
U21/Homegrown = 8
Quota = 8 (7 allowed IF the FA are operating under the same rules - otherwise this year the quota only applies to INTERNATIONAL loans)

There are now limits on the number of loan players - 7 in and 7 out (reducing to 6 next season). There is also a limit of 3 to anyone club (Grasshoppers). However homegrown and u21 players do not count towards the 7

 

[giantwolf]

Friday 7th July:

Both Nigel Lonwijk and Theo Corbeanu made their first appearance in Grasshoppers colours as they lost 2-1 in a friendly vs Lausanne. Lonwijk played the first half, Corbeanu the second

 

[so-called fan]

The season is now officially underway: the loan thread is up and running. :thumb up emoticon:

 

[Supadavewolf]

Thanks again for doing this, Giant, whatever happens in the coming season with our club, this thread will be one of its key features for me (and many others, I'm sure!).

 

[Boss Hogg]

great to see you and this thread back Giant. It’s a huge commitment, your work is really appreciated, thank you

 

[JadeWolf]

Has Guedes to Benfica been confirmed?

 

[topcat99]

Doncaster are league 2. Finished 18th last season

 

[Jonzy54]

At the moment with all the outgoings and no one coming in this is the only positive thread where we can read about some of our youngsters going off to get some experience

 

[WickedWolfie]

great to see you and this thread back Giant. It’s a huge commitment, your work is really appreciated, thank you

Keeps him (I am assuming, might be a her!) out of mischief, lol..... Seriously, l completely agree.

There are three threads l'd say that about: this one, the U18-U21 thread and @Frank Lincoln's WW1 thread.

Plus a seasonal special, @SanFranWolf's transfer window magnum opus....

 

[Golden Arrow]

Good work, "giantwolf".
Always good to have a point of reference for all our loanees out there, well done.

 

[Surrey Wolf]

Has Guedes to Benfica been confirmed?

No

 

[giantwolf]

Has Guedes to Benfica been confirmed?

Not yet, but to be honest, I copied last seasons op and just kept him on there for now as rumours seem to suggest he will

 

[WickedWolfie]

Not yet, but to be honest, I copied last seasons op and just kept him on there for now

Boo, cheat, lol....

Seriously, doing that was a no-brainer....

 

[Jonzy54]

Not yet, but to be honest, I copied last seasons op and just kept him on there for now as rumours seem to suggest he will

As an aside we all appreciate what you tell us but a genuine question do you have the ear of someone at the club or are you good at sleuthing out information?Either way I love the positivity of this thread ,keep it going mate .
I still receive snippets but after the brickbats in recent time I tend to send PM’s to individuals rather than post for general release because too many people are so quick to challenge what gets posted .
Keep going mate .

 

[JOSWolf]

Great thread as always this. Top work by giantwolf.

 

[SuperGran]

Thank you @giantwolf this and the academy thread are my favourite threads

 

[HICKO]

Thanks for this thread @giantwolf, you’re a star. UTW

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

With the two lads going to Glassdroppers, Roberts to Donnies and Mosquera still on loan plus the forgettable Guedes, does that mean there are only two more out loan deals we can do. Or are under 21s exempt from this ruling?
Question then is which other players would you like to see out on loan.

 

[arctic rime]

Cheers GW

 

[giantwolf]

With the two lads going to Glassdroppers, Roberts to Donnies and Mosquera still on loan plus the forgettable Guedes, does that mean there are only two more out loan deals we can do. Or are under 21s exempt from this ruling?
Question then is which other players would you like to see out on loan.

I’ve tried to answer the quota issue in the OP, however to be clear (or try to be)

We are allowed 7 out and 7 in at anyone time. The quota technically only applies to international loans currently. However players that are u21 AND homegrown do not count towards this quota.

Therefore:

*Mosquera & Guedes as neither homegrown or u21 are 2 of the 7 we are allowed

*Lonwijk is HG (having joined in Jan 2020) and u21 so that’s ok and doesn’t count

*Roberts is HG and u21 and a domestic loan so doesn’t count

*Theo the jury is out but I think he might be quota. He’s definitely HG having joined in August 2018 but think (depending where the cut off is) might be just outside of u21

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

I’ve tried to answer the quota issue in the OP, however to be clear (or try to be)

We are allowed 7 out and 7 in at anyone time. The quota technically only applies to international loans currently. However players that are u21 AND homegrown do not count towards this quota.

Therefore:

*Mosquera & Guedes as neither homegrown or u21 are 2 of the 7 we are allowed

*Lonwijk is HG (having joined in Jan 2020) and u21 so that’s ok and doesn’t count

*Roberts is HG and u21 and a domestic loan so doesn’t count

*Theo the jury is out but I think he might be quota. He’s definitely HG having joined in August 2018 but think (depending where the cut off is) might be just outside of u21

Thanks for that clarification. That seems to give us more flexibility than I thought.

 

[giantwolf]

Thanks for that clarification. That seems to give us more flexibility than I thought.

Yep, will get harder in future though, domestic associations are expected to fall in line with FIFA rules from 2024 when it’ll be 6 in and 6 out (HG and u21 exception still applies though).

 

[giantwolf]

Saturday 8th July:

Yerson Mosquera played 90 mins and was booked as Cincinnati drew 2-2 away at Charlotte. (As an aside former wolf Nathan Byrne was playing for Charlotte)

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

Saturday 8th July:

Yerson Mosquera played 90 mins and was booked as Cincinnati drew 2-2 away at Charlotte. (As an aside former wolf Nathan Byrne was playing for Charlotte)

Definitely good experience for Yerson to be booked to prepare him for when he makes it to our first team.

 

[kapitiwolf]

Reliable as ever Giant Wolf with your loan thread.Many thanks once again for your time and knowledge.Like all Wolves fans on the globe.looking forward to a successful 2023-24 season,Wolves aye we.

 

[SuperGran]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679123252994514946

 

[giantwolf]

12th July:

Yerson Mosquera played 90 mins as Cincinnati beat New York Red Bulls 2-1 with a last minute winner. That was Mosquera's 22nd appearance for Cincinnati who are 8 points clear at the top of the Eastern Conference

 

[SuperGran]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679543713448468503

 

[giantwolf]

Saturday 15th July:

Louie Moulden played the first 58 mins as Rochdale lost 1-0 away at Chorley

Theo Corbeanu played 73 mins and hit the post as Grasshoppers lost 6-1 away at Freiburg. Nigel Lonwijk was missing due to injury

 

[SuperGran]

Yerson in the starting 11 for Cincinnati

 

[SuperGran]

Yerson in the starting 11 for Cincinnati

Played 90 mins in a 3-1 win over Nashville

 

[giantwolf]

Played 90 mins in a 3-1 win over Nashville

That was Yerson’s 20th league appearance for Cincinnati.

 

[Minimalist]

That was Yerson’s 20th league appearance for Cincinnati.

Is he still playing on the left of a back 3?

 

[hollo]

Mosquera's value must have risen. I am sure we could get 10 million for him in january.

 

[Wolves Heathen]

Is he still playing on the left of a back 3?

Thought he played right side for us? if so he could be Dawson's long term replacement, I guess it all depends on acceptable offers and the player himself if he prefers USA or UK, he was definately popular in amongst our squad.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Thought he played right side for us? if so he could be Dawson's long term replacement, I guess it all depends on acceptable offers and the player himself if he prefers USA or UK, he was definately popular in amongst our squad.

Also depends on if JL rates him.

 

[SuperGran]

Is he still playing on the left of a back 3?

Right of a back 3

 

[Minimalist]

Thought he played right side for us? if so he could be Dawson's long term replacement, I guess it all depends on acceptable offers and the player himself if he prefers USA or UK, he was definately popular in amongst our squad.

He did play on the right for us, and I agree he could hopefully end up challenging for Dawson’s position. He could also probably do a job at right back for us in a similar way as to what Toti has done on occasion at lb.
But at Cincinnati he started off playing the left of a back 3 , and seemingly doing well there.
From our POV it would be nice if he were playing in a position we’re likely to use him in. But obviously the most important thing is that he is playing regularly regardless of position.

 

[giantwolf]

Is he still playing on the left of a back 3?

Thought he played right side for us? if so he could be Dawson's long term replacement, I guess it all depends on acceptable offers and the player himself if he prefers USA or UK, he was definately popular in amongst our squad.

He did play on the right for us, and I agree he could hopefully end up challenging for Dawson’s position. He could also probably do a job at right back for us in a similar way as to what Toti has done on occasion at lb.
But at Cincinnati he started off playing the left of a back 3 , and seemingly doing well there.
From our POV it would be nice if he were playing in a position we’re likely to use him in. But obviously the most important thing is that he is playing regularly regardless of position.

Right of a back 3

Last night he was on the left but has played in each of the back 3 positions for Cincinnati. Most recently central or left

 

[giantwolf]

Rochdale’s take on ‘get to know’…. Louie Moulden