waltononthehillwolf
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Not surprising really given his outburst
Nagelsman.Most unsurprising news ever. Who is going to be mad enough to take over ?
Levy has been owner for 20 years. All they have won in that time is the league cup in 2008. Just an average team.... that changes its manager every couple of years. They have had 11 since Levy took over. Is there a pattern here?
They finish in the top 6 virtually every year.Yet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?
The club, players and most pundits think he was “wrong” to do it.
I’m sure he had his own manipulative reasons for his actions, but can anyone deny there is some clear truth in what he said?
They qualify for champions league regularlyYet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?
10 games with caretaker, new manager for 23/24Most unsurprising news ever. Who is going to be mad enough to take over ?
Money income and turnover. Nothing more or lessYet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?
"Funny old game" as Greavsie would have said. Spuds are 4th and current form is better than Brighton's, Newcastle's and Yernited's all who are feted as having good seasons. They will (almost) certainly finish in the top 6 and so qualify for Europe and have probably the best stadium in the world. Oh to be having it as bad as Tottenham!
Maybe, but also regularly played in the Champion's League including getting to the final. Regular top 4/6 finishers in the Prem, no fear of relegation etc... Generating oodles of money and 50k+ crowds. For who we think we would like to be; that would be wonderful.Two trophies in 25 years (both League Cup) though.
For who they think they are, that's abysmal.
Maybe, but also regularly played in the Champion's League including getting to the final. Regular top 4/6 finishers in the Prem, no fear of relegation etc... Generating oodles of money and 50k+ crowds. For who we think we would like to be; that would be wonderful.
Spurs have a bunch of deeply unpleasant players, starting with Horseface, who think that they are much better than they actually are and that they just have to turn up to win. Add to that Levy, a man with all of the charm of an open cesspit, who makes Jizz look spendthrift and they have serious underlying issues.Conte “outs” his players and the club.
No surprise he gets the sack.
But the players and club remain “outed”
The club, players and most pundits think he was “wrong” to do it.
I’m sure he had his own manipulative reasons for his actions, but can anyone deny there is some clear truth in what he said?
“super six” perennial under achievers.
There are many players in the Premier League that appear to fit the same profile.
Some are very close to home.
He wasn't albeit he may have had some input.It might've had more impact criticising the players if he hadn't been the one who spent £188m on them in the summer!
Don't forget they are a London club.Money income and turnover. Nothing more or less
# | Club | P | W | D | L | F | A | GD | Points |
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1 | Manchester United | 1,178 | 718 | 262 | 198 | 2,226 | 1,101 | 1,125 | 2,416 |
2 | Arsenal FC | 1,180 | 641 | 287 | 252 | 2,083 | 1,174 | 909 | 2,210 |
3 | Chelsea FC | 1,179 | 628 | 292 | 259 | 2,002 | 1,153 | 849 | 2,176 |
4 | Liverpool FC | 1,178 | 621 | 288 | 269 | 2,068 | 1,176 | 892 | 2,151 |
5 | Tottenham Hotspur | 1,180 | 517 | 285 | 378 | 1,797 | 1,478 | 319 | 1,836 |
6 | Manchester City | 989 | 492 | 214 | 283 | 1,725 | 1,093 | 632 | 1,690 |
7 | Everton FC | 1,180 | 424 | 328 | 428 | 1,513 | 1,521 | -8 | 1,600 |
8 | Newcastle United | 1,060 | 394 | 275 | 391 | 1,416 | 1,436 | -20 | 1,457 |
9 | Aston Villa | 1,065 | 365 | 301 | 399 | 1,300 | 1,392 | -92 | 1,396 |
10 | West Ham United | 1,022 | 341 | 259 | 422 | 1,259 | 1,463 | -204 | 1,282 |
11 | Southampton FC | 914 | 280 | 246 | 388 | 1,101 | 1,328 | -227 | 1,086 |
12 | Blackburn Rovers | 696 | 262 | 184 | 250 | 927 | 907 | 20 | 970 |
13 | Leeds United | 571 | 222 | 149 | 200 | 780 | 750 | 30 | 815 |
14 | Leicester City | 639 | 216 | 164 | 259 | 858 | 915 | -57 | 812 |
15 | Fulham FC | 598 | 173 | 160 | 265 | 670 | 872 | -202 | 679 |
16 | Middlesbrough FC | 574 | 165 | 169 | 240 | 648 | 794 | -146 | 664 |
17 | Sunderland AFC | 608 | 153 | 159 | 296 | 612 | 904 | -292 | 618 |
18 | Crystal Palace | 529 | 151 | 138 | 240 | 568 | 760 | -192 | 591 |
19 | Bolton Wanderers | 494 | 149 | 128 | 217 | 575 | 745 | -170 | 575 |
20 | West Bromwich Albion | 494 | 117 | 139 | 238 | 510 | 772 | -262 | 490 |
21 | Stoke City | 380 | 116 | 109 | 155 | 398 | 525 | -127 | 457 |
22 | Coventry City | 354 | 99 | 112 | 143 | 387 | 490 | -103 | 409 |
23 | Norwich City | 392 | 99 | 105 | 188 | 414 | 669 | -255 | 402 |
24 | Sheffield Wednesday | 316 | 101 | 89 | 126 | 409 | 453 | -44 | 392 |
25 | Wimbledon FC | 316 | 99 | 94 | 123 | 384 | 472 | -88 | 391 |
26 | Wolverhampton Wanderers | 332 | 97 | 84 | 151 | 350 | 503 | -153 | 375 |
27 | Charlton Athletic | 304 | 93 | 82 | 129 | 342 | 442 | -100 | 361 |
28 | Wigan Athletic | 304 | 85 | 76 | 143 | 316 | 482 | -166 | 331 |
29 | Burnley FC | 304 | 83 | 76 | 145 | 300 | 455 | -155 | 325 |
30 | Swansea City | 266 | 82 | 66 | 118 | 306 | 383 | -77 | 312 |
31 | Queens Park Rangers | 278 | 81 | 65 | 132 | 339 | 431 | -92 | 308 |
32 | Portsmouth FC | 266 | 79 | 65 | 122 | 292 | 380 | -88 | 302 |
33 | Birmingham City | 266 | 73 | 82 | 111 | 273 | 360 | -87 | 301 |
34 | Watford FC | 304 | 73 | 66 | 165 | 310 | 518 | -208 | 285 |
35 | Derby County | 266 | 68 | 70 | 128 | 271 | 420 | -149 | 274 |
36 | Nottingham Forest | 225 | 66 | 67 | 92 | 251 | 336 | -85 | 265 |
37 | Brighton & Hove Albion | 216 | 60 | 71 | 84 | 236 | 289 | -53 | 251 |
38 | AFC Bournemouth | 217 | 62 | 49 | 106 | 266 | 384 | -118 | 235 |
39 | Ipswich Town | 202 | 57 | 53 | 92 | 219 | 312 | -93 | 224 |
40 | Sheffield United | 198 | 53 | 50 | 95 | 187 | 270 | -83 | 209 |
41 | Hull City | 190 | 41 | 48 | 101 | 181 | 323 | -142 | 171 |
42 | Reading FC | 114 | 32 | 23 | 59 | 136 | 186 | -50 | 119 |
43 | Oldham Athletic | 84 | 22 | 23 | 39 | 105 | 142 | -37 | 89 |
44 | Brentford FC | 65 | 23 | 19 | 23 | 91 | 90 | 1 | 88 |
45 | Cardiff City | 76 | 17 | 13 | 46 | 66 | 143 | -77 | 64 |
46 | Bradford City | 76 | 14 | 20 | 42 | 68 | 138 | -70 | 62 |
47 | Huddersfield Town | 76 | 12 | 17 | 47 | 50 | 134 | -84 | 53 |
48 | Blackpool FC | 38 | 10 | 9 | 19 | 55 | 78 | -23 | 39 |
49 | Barnsley FC | 38 | 10 | 5 | 23 | 37 | 82 | -45 | 35 |
50 | Swindon Town | 42 | 5 | 15 | 22 | 47 | 100 | -53 | 30 |
I doubt it he hasn’t proved ever anything in the premier league yet. If we stay up and do well next season they might go after him but it’s unlikely in my opinionLopetegui was made a "dizzying" offer to manage Spurs less than 2 years ago so I wonder if they'll be after him again.
This is why they are "big 6"
All-Time Premier League Table 1992-93 to 2022-23 (31 Seasons)
# Club P W D L F A GD Points
1 Manchester United 1,178 718 262 198 2,226 1,101 1,125 2,416 2 Arsenal FC 1,180 641 287 252 2,083 1,174 909 2,210 3 Chelsea FC 1,179 628 292 259 2,002 1,153 849 2,176 4 Liverpool FC 1,178 621 288 269 2,068 1,176 892 2,151 5 Tottenham Hotspur 1,180 517 285 378 1,797 1,478 319 1,836 6 Manchester City 989 492 214 283 1,725 1,093 632 1,690 7 Everton FC 1,180 424 328 428 1,513 1,521 -8 1,600 8 Newcastle United 1,060 394 275 391 1,416 1,436 -20 1,457 9 Aston Villa 1,065 365 301 399 1,300 1,392 -92 1,396 10 West Ham United 1,022 341 259 422 1,259 1,463 -204 1,282 11 Southampton FC 914 280 246 388 1,101 1,328 -227 1,086 12 Blackburn Rovers 696 262 184 250 927 907 20 970 13 Leeds United 571 222 149 200 780 750 30 815 14 Leicester City 639 216 164 259 858 915 -57 812 15 Fulham FC 598 173 160 265 670 872 -202 679 16 Middlesbrough FC 574 165 169 240 648 794 -146 664 17 Sunderland AFC 608 153 159 296 612 904 -292 618 18 Crystal Palace 529 151 138 240 568 760 -192 591 19 Bolton Wanderers 494 149 128 217 575 745 -170 575 20 West Bromwich Albion 494 117 139 238 510 772 -262 490 21 Stoke City 380 116 109 155 398 525 -127 457 22 Coventry City 354 99 112 143 387 490 -103 409 23 Norwich City 392 99 105 188 414 669 -255 402 24 Sheffield Wednesday 316 101 89 126 409 453 -44 392 25 Wimbledon FC 316 99 94 123 384 472 -88 391 26 Wolverhampton Wanderers 332 97 84 151 350 503 -153 375 27 Charlton Athletic 304 93 82 129 342 442 -100 361 28 Wigan Athletic 304 85 76 143 316 482 -166 331 29 Burnley FC 304 83 76 145 300 455 -155 325 30 Swansea City 266 82 66 118 306 383 -77 312 31 Queens Park Rangers 278 81 65 132 339 431 -92 308 32 Portsmouth FC 266 79 65 122 292 380 -88 302 33 Birmingham City 266 73 82 111 273 360 -87 301 34 Watford FC 304 73 66 165 310 518 -208 285 35 Derby County 266 68 70 128 271 420 -149 274 36 Nottingham Forest 225 66 67 92 251 336 -85 265 37 Brighton & Hove Albion 216 60 71 84 236 289 -53 251 38 AFC Bournemouth 217 62 49 106 266 384 -118 235 39 Ipswich Town 202 57 53 92 219 312 -93 224 40 Sheffield United 198 53 50 95 187 270 -83 209 41 Hull City 190 41 48 101 181 323 -142 171 42 Reading FC 114 32 23 59 136 186 -50 119 43 Oldham Athletic 84 22 23 39 105 142 -37 89 44 Brentford FC 65 23 19 23 91 90 1 88 45 Cardiff City 76 17 13 46 66 143 -77 64 46 Bradford City 76 14 20 42 68 138 -70 62 47 Huddersfield Town 76 12 17 47 50 134 -84 53 48 Blackpool FC 38 10 9 19 55 78 -23 39 49 Barnsley FC 38 10 5 23 37 82 -45 35 50 Swindon Town 42 5 15 22 47 100 -53 30
It's that -155 goal difference that's holding us back. Spuds +319 is mainly Harry Kane!This is why they are "big 6"
All-Time Premier League Table 1992-93 to 2022-23 (31 Seasons)
# Club P W D L F A GD Points
1 Manchester United 1,178 718 262 198 2,226 1,101 1,125 2,416 2 Arsenal FC 1,180 641 287 252 2,083 1,174 909 2,210 3 Chelsea FC 1,179 628 292 259 2,002 1,153 849 2,176 4 Liverpool FC 1,178 621 288 269 2,068 1,176 892 2,151 5 Tottenham Hotspur 1,180 517 285 378 1,797 1,478 319 1,836 6 Manchester City 989 492 214 283 1,725 1,093 632 1,690 7 Everton FC 1,180 424 328 428 1,513 1,521 -8 1,600 8 Newcastle United 1,060 394 275 391 1,416 1,436 -20 1,457 9 Aston Villa 1,065 365 301 399 1,300 1,392 -92 1,396 10 West Ham United 1,022 341 259 422 1,259 1,463 -204 1,282 11 Southampton FC 914 280 246 388 1,101 1,328 -227 1,086 12 Blackburn Rovers 696 262 184 250 927 907 20 970 13 Leeds United 571 222 149 200 780 750 30 815 14 Leicester City 639 216 164 259 858 915 -57 812 15 Fulham FC 598 173 160 265 670 872 -202 679 16 Middlesbrough FC 574 165 169 240 648 794 -146 664 17 Sunderland AFC 608 153 159 296 612 904 -292 618 18 Crystal Palace 529 151 138 240 568 760 -192 591 19 Bolton Wanderers 494 149 128 217 575 745 -170 575 20 West Bromwich Albion 494 117 139 238 510 772 -262 490 21 Stoke City 380 116 109 155 398 525 -127 457 22 Coventry City 354 99 112 143 387 490 -103 409 23 Norwich City 392 99 105 188 414 669 -255 402 24 Sheffield Wednesday 316 101 89 126 409 453 -44 392 25 Wimbledon FC 316 99 94 123 384 472 -88 391 26 Wolverhampton Wanderers 332 97 84 151 350 503 -153 375 27 Charlton Athletic 304 93 82 129 342 442 -100 361 28 Wigan Athletic 304 85 76 143 316 482 -166 331 29 Burnley FC 304 83 76 145 300 455 -155 325 30 Swansea City 266 82 66 118 306 383 -77 312 31 Queens Park Rangers 278 81 65 132 339 431 -92 308 32 Portsmouth FC 266 79 65 122 292 380 -88 302 33 Birmingham City 266 73 82 111 273 360 -87 301 34 Watford FC 304 73 66 165 310 518 -208 285 35 Derby County 266 68 70 128 271 420 -149 274 36 Nottingham Forest 225 66 67 92 251 336 -85 265 37 Brighton & Hove Albion 216 60 71 84 236 289 -53 251 38 AFC Bournemouth 217 62 49 106 266 384 -118 235 39 Ipswich Town 202 57 53 92 219 312 -93 224 40 Sheffield United 198 53 50 95 187 270 -83 209 41 Hull City 190 41 48 101 181 323 -142 171 42 Reading FC 114 32 23 59 136 186 -50 119 43 Oldham Athletic 84 22 23 39 105 142 -37 89 44 Brentford FC 65 23 19 23 91 90 1 88 45 Cardiff City 76 17 13 46 66 143 -77 64 46 Bradford City 76 14 20 42 68 138 -70 62 47 Huddersfield Town 76 12 17 47 50 134 -84 53 48 Blackpool FC 38 10 9 19 55 78 -23 39 49 Barnsley FC 38 10 5 23 37 82 -45 35 50 Swindon Town 42 5 15 22 47 100 -53 30
Football did not start in 1992.