Conte Sacked...

[waltononthehillwolf]

Not surprising really given his outburst

 

[SuperGran]

Most unsurprising news ever. Who is going to be mad enough to take over ?

 

[WolfLing]

 

[Wolf316]

Most unsurprising news ever. Who is going to be mad enough to take over ?

Nagelsman.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

Ive always liked Conte. Think he's done well to get them to 4th but it's been obvious for months this was going to be his last season.
The week of going out in the da cup, losing to Wolves and going out to Milan was a bad one.
Bentancur injury has been a massive blow.
The slow first half performances the defensive football, it's exactly what Nuno was doing, only difference the players three Nuno under the bus at the first opportunity.

 

[Cookyssweetleftfoot]

He spent plenty of time back in Italy so has probably already negotiated his next job.

 

[The Clock]

Conte “outs” his players and the club.
No surprise he gets the sack.

But the players and club remain “outed”

The club, players and most pundits think he was “wrong” to do it.
I’m sure he had his own manipulative reasons for his actions, but can anyone deny there is some clear truth in what he said?

“super six” perennial under achievers.

There are many players in the Premier League that appear to fit the same profile.
Some are very close to home.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Can’t wait to see the next one be a failure lol

 

[Big Saft Kid]

Levy has been owner for 20 years. All they have won in that time is the league cup in 2008. Just an average team.... that changes its manager every couple of years. They have had 11 since Levy took over. Is there a pattern here?

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Levy has been owner for 20 years. All they have won in that time is the league cup in 2008. Just an average team.... that changes its manager every couple of years. They have had 11 since Levy took over. Is there a pattern here?

Yet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?

 

[oldgolded]

They've got the best stadium in Europe. Must be an attraction to players and managers. But then again, maybe it's a millstone?

 

[Hot Fuss]

Yet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?

They finish in the top 6 virtually every year.

 

[Flump]

The club, players and most pundits think he was “wrong” to do it.
I’m sure he had his own manipulative reasons for his actions, but can anyone deny there is some clear truth in what he said?

It might've had more impact criticising the players if he hadn't been the one who spent £188m on them in the summer!

 

[JOSWolf]

No permanent appointment to replace him until the summer.

 

[SuperGran]

Yet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?

They qualify for champions league regularly

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Most unsurprising news ever. Who is going to be mad enough to take over ?

10 games with caretaker, new manager for 23/24

 

[Adrian_Monk]

I'd expect they are already negotiating with Nagelsmann, seems like a convenient time to get rid of Conte in that respect

 

[Bryce]

Yet despite their very limited success, Tottenham are still one of the Sky six, yet Leicester City who have won the league and FA Cup in recent years are just seen as being also rans. Which begs the question, why are Spurs seen as one of the big six?

Money income and turnover. Nothing more or less

 

[manchesterwolf17]

Good manager, but can't say I'll miss seeing his miserable ****ing face every weekend.

 

[SA Wolf]

"Funny old game" as Greavsie would have said. Spuds are 4th and current form is better than Brighton's, Newcastle's and Yernited's all who are feted as having good seasons. They will (almost) certainly finish in the top 6 and so qualify for Europe and have probably the best stadium in the world. Oh to be having it as bad as Tottenham!

 

[manchesterwolf17]

"Funny old game" as Greavsie would have said. Spuds are 4th and current form is better than Brighton's, Newcastle's and Yernited's all who are feted as having good seasons. They will (almost) certainly finish in the top 6 and so qualify for Europe and have probably the best stadium in the world. Oh to be having it as bad as Tottenham!

Two trophies in 25 years (both League Cup) though.

For who they think they are, that's abysmal.

 

[SA Wolf]

Two trophies in 25 years (both League Cup) though.

For who they think they are, that's abysmal.

Maybe, but also regularly played in the Champion's League including getting to the final. Regular top 4/6 finishers in the Prem, no fear of relegation etc... Generating oodles of money and 50k+ crowds. For who we think we would like to be; that would be wonderful.

 

[manchesterwolf17]

Maybe, but also regularly played in the Champion's League including getting to the final. Regular top 4/6 finishers in the Prem, no fear of relegation etc... Generating oodles of money and 50k+ crowds. For who we think we would like to be; that would be wonderful.

Oh without doubt. I'm sure all but 5-6 sides in English football would snap your hands off for that existence.

 

[Nige100]

Excellent news given there next game is against Everton they will be United in trying to prove a point that he was the reason they were ****e.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Conte “outs” his players and the club.
No surprise he gets the sack.

But the players and club remain “outed”

The club, players and most pundits think he was “wrong” to do it.
I’m sure he had his own manipulative reasons for his actions, but can anyone deny there is some clear truth in what he said?

“super six” perennial under achievers.

There are many players in the Premier League that appear to fit the same profile.
Some are very close to home.

Spurs have a bunch of deeply unpleasant players, starting with Horseface, who think that they are much better than they actually are and that they just have to turn up to win. Add to that Levy, a man with all of the charm of an open cesspit, who makes Jizz look spendthrift and they have serious underlying issues.

Moving the head coach on is fine but it does not address those issues. Don't forget what those players, Horseface in particular, did to Nuno who they thought they were too good for.

Conte didn't give a toss and could speak his mind freely. His contract was up at the end of the season and it was apparent that he had no intention of renewing even if Spurs wanted him to. The only slight surprise is his assistant staying until the end of the season.

Rumours that Horseface will be involved in the process to select the next head coach tells you all that you need to know about the toxic atmosphere at that club.

 

[WickedWolfie]

It might've had more impact criticising the players if he hadn't been the one who spent £188m on them in the summer!

He wasn't albeit he may have had some input.
Levy has always controlled transfers at Spurs and most of the time goes for the cheaper option. Hence the Evening Standard is full of similar stories to this....

Tottenham backed to complete bargain deal for Hugo Lloris replacement more in keeping with ‘cheap’ Levy

Spurs are expected to be in the market for a new No.1 in the summer despite Lloris still being under contract and they could turn to a Premier League rival to get their man

uk.sports.yahoo.com

 

[Stafford]

For me they have been the biggest overachievers of the past 20 years. They are going to be in for a real shock over the next decade.

 

[bigbluewolf]

Money income and turnover. Nothing more or less

Don't forget they are a London club.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

This is why they are "big 6"

All-Time Premier League Table 1992-93 to 2022-23 (31 Seasons)​

#	Club	P	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Points

1	Manchester United	1,178	718	262	198	2,226	1,101	1,125	2,416
2	Arsenal FC	1,180	641	287	252	2,083	1,174	909	2,210
3	Chelsea FC	1,179	628	292	259	2,002	1,153	849	2,176
4	Liverpool FC	1,178	621	288	269	2,068	1,176	892	2,151
5	Tottenham Hotspur	1,180	517	285	378	1,797	1,478	319	1,836
6	Manchester City	989	492	214	283	1,725	1,093	632	1,690
7	Everton FC	1,180	424	328	428	1,513	1,521	-8	1,600
8	Newcastle United	1,060	394	275	391	1,416	1,436	-20	1,457
9	Aston Villa	1,065	365	301	399	1,300	1,392	-92	1,396
10	West Ham United	1,022	341	259	422	1,259	1,463	-204	1,282
11	Southampton FC	914	280	246	388	1,101	1,328	-227	1,086
12	Blackburn Rovers	696	262	184	250	927	907	20	970
13	Leeds United	571	222	149	200	780	750	30	815
14	Leicester City	639	216	164	259	858	915	-57	812
15	Fulham FC	598	173	160	265	670	872	-202	679
16	Middlesbrough FC	574	165	169	240	648	794	-146	664
17	Sunderland AFC	608	153	159	296	612	904	-292	618
18	Crystal Palace	529	151	138	240	568	760	-192	591
19	Bolton Wanderers	494	149	128	217	575	745	-170	575
20	West Bromwich Albion	494	117	139	238	510	772	-262	490
21	Stoke City	380	116	109	155	398	525	-127	457
22	Coventry City	354	99	112	143	387	490	-103	409
23	Norwich City	392	99	105	188	414	669	-255	402
24	Sheffield Wednesday	316	101	89	126	409	453	-44	392
25	Wimbledon FC	316	99	94	123	384	472	-88	391
26	Wolverhampton Wanderers	332	97	84	151	350	503	-153	375
27	Charlton Athletic	304	93	82	129	342	442	-100	361
28	Wigan Athletic	304	85	76	143	316	482	-166	331
29	Burnley FC	304	83	76	145	300	455	-155	325
30	Swansea City	266	82	66	118	306	383	-77	312
31	Queens Park Rangers	278	81	65	132	339	431	-92	308
32	Portsmouth FC	266	79	65	122	292	380	-88	302
33	Birmingham City	266	73	82	111	273	360	-87	301
34	Watford FC	304	73	66	165	310	518	-208	285
35	Derby County	266	68	70	128	271	420	-149	274
36	Nottingham Forest	225	66	67	92	251	336	-85	265
37	Brighton & Hove Albion	216	60	71	84	236	289	-53	251
38	AFC Bournemouth	217	62	49	106	266	384	-118	235
39	Ipswich Town	202	57	53	92	219	312	-93	224
40	Sheffield United	198	53	50	95	187	270	-83	209
41	Hull City	190	41	48	101	181	323	-142	171
42	Reading FC	114	32	23	59	136	186	-50	119
43	Oldham Athletic	84	22	23	39	105	142	-37	89
44	Brentford FC	65	23	19	23	91	90	1	88
45	Cardiff City	76	17	13	46	66	143	-77	64
46	Bradford City	76	14	20	42	68	138	-70	62
47	Huddersfield Town	76	12	17	47	50	134	-84	53
48	Blackpool FC	38	10	9	19	55	78	-23	39
49	Barnsley FC	38	10	5	23	37	82	-45	35
50	Swindon Town	42	5	15	22	47	100	-53	30

 

[The Wolf In The North]

That table proves Conte's point perfectly. The only club in a very distinct elite bracket to not back it up with trophies, happy just to be in amongst the pack every year.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

I seem to recall reading that Mauricio Pochettino would be interested in returning to Tottenham. Though that might just be paper talk.

 

[Wednesbury Wolf]

With Conte leaving mainly because certain players are not motivated and refuse to follow certain tactics there is a slight similarity with us.
We certainly have 2 or 3 players who are quite clearly not motivated and in some games look as if they'd rather be somewhere else.
Not most of the players by any means but we do have some idle players who perform when they feel like it.
Lopetegui hasn't as far as I know alluded to this in public but I imagine he will have behind the scenes.

Lopetegui was made a "dizzying" offer to manage Spurs less than 2 years ago so I wonder if they'll be after him again.

 

[Deleted member (smith)]

Oh dear …Wolves below Wimbledon and Wednesday…must be alphabetical?

 

[Mugwump]

That group of players are just grubs.

 

[xbomber]

Those of you belittling Tottenham's achievements should hang your heads. Have you any idea how difficult it is to finish third in a two-horse race? The end of the 2015/16 season was like a slow-motion car crash as they manage to simultaneously trip themselves up while cacking their own kecks. Was really special.

That all time premier league is interesting. Just praying we stay up and consolidate so we can overtake the cheating trotters and our sandwell friends in the near future.

 

[SuperGran]

Lopetegui was made a "dizzying" offer to manage Spurs less than 2 years ago so I wonder if they'll be after him again.

I doubt it he hasn’t proved ever anything in the premier league yet. If we stay up and do well next season they might go after him but it’s unlikely in my opinion

 

[Stourport wolf]

This is why they are "big 6"

All-Time Premier League Table 1992-93 to 2022-23 (31 Seasons)​

#	Club	P	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Points

1	Manchester United	1,178	718	262	198	2,226	1,101	1,125	2,416
2	Arsenal FC	1,180	641	287	252	2,083	1,174	909	2,210
3	Chelsea FC	1,179	628	292	259	2,002	1,153	849	2,176
4	Liverpool FC	1,178	621	288	269	2,068	1,176	892	2,151
5	Tottenham Hotspur	1,180	517	285	378	1,797	1,478	319	1,836
6	Manchester City	989	492	214	283	1,725	1,093	632	1,690
7	Everton FC	1,180	424	328	428	1,513	1,521	-8	1,600
8	Newcastle United	1,060	394	275	391	1,416	1,436	-20	1,457
9	Aston Villa	1,065	365	301	399	1,300	1,392	-92	1,396
10	West Ham United	1,022	341	259	422	1,259	1,463	-204	1,282
11	Southampton FC	914	280	246	388	1,101	1,328	-227	1,086
12	Blackburn Rovers	696	262	184	250	927	907	20	970
13	Leeds United	571	222	149	200	780	750	30	815
14	Leicester City	639	216	164	259	858	915	-57	812
15	Fulham FC	598	173	160	265	670	872	-202	679
16	Middlesbrough FC	574	165	169	240	648	794	-146	664
17	Sunderland AFC	608	153	159	296	612	904	-292	618
18	Crystal Palace	529	151	138	240	568	760	-192	591
19	Bolton Wanderers	494	149	128	217	575	745	-170	575
20	West Bromwich Albion	494	117	139	238	510	772	-262	490
21	Stoke City	380	116	109	155	398	525	-127	457
22	Coventry City	354	99	112	143	387	490	-103	409
23	Norwich City	392	99	105	188	414	669	-255	402
24	Sheffield Wednesday	316	101	89	126	409	453	-44	392
25	Wimbledon FC	316	99	94	123	384	472	-88	391
26	Wolverhampton Wanderers	332	97	84	151	350	503	-153	375
27	Charlton Athletic	304	93	82	129	342	442	-100	361
28	Wigan Athletic	304	85	76	143	316	482	-166	331
29	Burnley FC	304	83	76	145	300	455	-155	325
30	Swansea City	266	82	66	118	306	383	-77	312
31	Queens Park Rangers	278	81	65	132	339	431	-92	308
32	Portsmouth FC	266	79	65	122	292	380	-88	302
33	Birmingham City	266	73	82	111	273	360	-87	301
34	Watford FC	304	73	66	165	310	518	-208	285
35	Derby County	266	68	70	128	271	420	-149	274
36	Nottingham Forest	225	66	67	92	251	336	-85	265
37	Brighton & Hove Albion	216	60	71	84	236	289	-53	251
38	AFC Bournemouth	217	62	49	106	266	384	-118	235
39	Ipswich Town	202	57	53	92	219	312	-93	224
40	Sheffield United	198	53	50	95	187	270	-83	209
41	Hull City	190	41	48	101	181	323	-142	171
42	Reading FC	114	32	23	59	136	186	-50	119
43	Oldham Athletic	84	22	23	39	105	142	-37	89
44	Brentford FC	65	23	19	23	91	90	1	88
45	Cardiff City	76	17	13	46	66	143	-77	64
46	Bradford City	76	14	20	42	68	138	-70	62
47	Huddersfield Town	76	12	17	47	50	134	-84	53
48	Blackpool FC	38	10	9	19	55	78	-23	39
49	Barnsley FC	38	10	5	23	37	82	-45	35
50	Swindon Town	42	5	15	22	47	100	-53	30

Football did not start in 1992.

 

[Mardenboroughs Shoulder]

This is why they are "big 6"

All-Time Premier League Table 1992-93 to 2022-23 (31 Seasons)​

#	Club	P	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Points

1	Manchester United	1,178	718	262	198	2,226	1,101	1,125	2,416
2	Arsenal FC	1,180	641	287	252	2,083	1,174	909	2,210
3	Chelsea FC	1,179	628	292	259	2,002	1,153	849	2,176
4	Liverpool FC	1,178	621	288	269	2,068	1,176	892	2,151
5	Tottenham Hotspur	1,180	517	285	378	1,797	1,478	319	1,836
6	Manchester City	989	492	214	283	1,725	1,093	632	1,690
7	Everton FC	1,180	424	328	428	1,513	1,521	-8	1,600
8	Newcastle United	1,060	394	275	391	1,416	1,436	-20	1,457
9	Aston Villa	1,065	365	301	399	1,300	1,392	-92	1,396
10	West Ham United	1,022	341	259	422	1,259	1,463	-204	1,282
11	Southampton FC	914	280	246	388	1,101	1,328	-227	1,086
12	Blackburn Rovers	696	262	184	250	927	907	20	970
13	Leeds United	571	222	149	200	780	750	30	815
14	Leicester City	639	216	164	259	858	915	-57	812
15	Fulham FC	598	173	160	265	670	872	-202	679
16	Middlesbrough FC	574	165	169	240	648	794	-146	664
17	Sunderland AFC	608	153	159	296	612	904	-292	618
18	Crystal Palace	529	151	138	240	568	760	-192	591
19	Bolton Wanderers	494	149	128	217	575	745	-170	575
20	West Bromwich Albion	494	117	139	238	510	772	-262	490
21	Stoke City	380	116	109	155	398	525	-127	457
22	Coventry City	354	99	112	143	387	490	-103	409
23	Norwich City	392	99	105	188	414	669	-255	402
24	Sheffield Wednesday	316	101	89	126	409	453	-44	392
25	Wimbledon FC	316	99	94	123	384	472	-88	391
26	Wolverhampton Wanderers	332	97	84	151	350	503	-153	375
27	Charlton Athletic	304	93	82	129	342	442	-100	361
28	Wigan Athletic	304	85	76	143	316	482	-166	331
29	Burnley FC	304	83	76	145	300	455	-155	325
30	Swansea City	266	82	66	118	306	383	-77	312
31	Queens Park Rangers	278	81	65	132	339	431	-92	308
32	Portsmouth FC	266	79	65	122	292	380	-88	302
33	Birmingham City	266	73	82	111	273	360	-87	301
34	Watford FC	304	73	66	165	310	518	-208	285
35	Derby County	266	68	70	128	271	420	-149	274
36	Nottingham Forest	225	66	67	92	251	336	-85	265
37	Brighton & Hove Albion	216	60	71	84	236	289	-53	251
38	AFC Bournemouth	217	62	49	106	266	384	-118	235
39	Ipswich Town	202	57	53	92	219	312	-93	224
40	Sheffield United	198	53	50	95	187	270	-83	209
41	Hull City	190	41	48	101	181	323	-142	171
42	Reading FC	114	32	23	59	136	186	-50	119
43	Oldham Athletic	84	22	23	39	105	142	-37	89
44	Brentford FC	65	23	19	23	91	90	1	88
45	Cardiff City	76	17	13	46	66	143	-77	64
46	Bradford City	76	14	20	42	68	138	-70	62
47	Huddersfield Town	76	12	17	47	50	134	-84	53
48	Blackpool FC	38	10	9	19	55	78	-23	39
49	Barnsley FC	38	10	5	23	37	82	-45	35
50	Swindon Town	42	5	15	22	47	100	-53	30

It's that -155 goal difference that's holding us back. Spuds +319 is mainly Harry Kane!

 

[Flump]

Football did not start in 1992.

You couldn't really claim to be part of the Big Six based on things >30 years ago though could you.

 

[SuperGran]

Champions league is a joke really champions of what exactly