All are far far inferior defensivelyWest Ham, Spurs, United. Palace actually have this year as well, just lacked finishing and have one of the worst keepers in the league (by far).
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All are far far inferior defensivelyWest Ham, Spurs, United. Palace actually have this year as well, just lacked finishing and have one of the worst keepers in the league (by far).
West Ham are worse but not as much as you're making out. Arsenal are better defensively, especially the last 20 or so games.All are far far inferior defensively
Arsenal have conceded more goals in less games. West ham 13 more goals conceded.West Ham are worse but not as much as you're making out. Arsenal are better defensively, especially the last 20 or so games.
Difference between West Ham's attack and our attack is dramatic as well.
XG against we are 13th. Sa is unlikely to play at this level forever, unless he is one of the best keepers ever. We are still a good defense and much better than 13th but if we are relying next year on conceding this few goals but giving up the same amount of good chances then we are not going to concede as few goals as this.Arsenal have conceded more goals in less games. West ham 13 more goals conceded.
I don't buy into xg. I've seen plenty of games where the xg doesn't match what the eyes tell you. After this many games I think you are where you deserve to beXG against we are 13th. Sa is unlikely to play at this level forever, unless he is one of the best keepers ever. We are still a good defense and much better than 13th but if we are relying next year on conceding this few goals but giving up the same amount of good chances then we are not going to concede as few goals as this.
I somewhat agree. We are very very good at getting into a lead and strangling the game. Our game management thus doesn't tally with XG.I don't buy into xg. I've seen plenty of games where the xg doesn't match what the eyes tell you. After this many games I think you are where you deserve to be
That has no relevance to xg conceded. You are correct about game situation dictating it to a degree. However our record coming from behind this season is utterly dismal, so clearly it isn't just game planI somewhat agree. We are very very good at getting into a lead and strangling the game. Our game management thus doesn't tally with XG.
The Brentford game is the perfect example. Maybe the Everton one too. We were clear and deserved winners in both but it was more through controlling possession than an array of excellent chances
Every big club in the world uses xg and an array of analytics, so that's good enough for me. Xg on a per game basis is less useful but over a larger body of work it is very useful. I think 7th to the 14th is much of a muchness this year sI don't buy into xg. I've seen plenty of games where the xg doesn't match what the eyes tell you. After this many games I think you are where you deserve to be
I sometimes think you disagree with me just for the hell of itThat has no relevance to xg conceded. You are correct about game situation dictating it to a degree. However our record coming from behind this season is utterly dismal, so clearly it isn't just game plan
It speaks to a lack of ability to create and score goals really. Core of our problemI sometimes think you disagree with me just for the hell of it
But you're right, I should have specified that my point pertained to xg for. It's very rare that we go 'for the kill' so to speak.
Our record of coming from behind is uncharacteristically terrible, which points to a lack of plan B.
Every big club in the world uses xg and an array of analytics, so that's good enough for me. Xg on a per game basis is less useful but over a larger body of work it is very useful. I think 7th to the 14th is much of a muchness this year s
Hwang is always anonymous. Was blatantly the wrong sub. We needed pace against this shocking Leeds defenceYep, lost it a bit tonight. The Hwang sub was completely baffling.
What would you have done?Bruno to blame tonight. Utterly inept decision making. You deserve to concede 3 goals and ultimately the game when your winning 2-0 at home and playing a 5-4 formation against quite possibly the worst team in the league right now. They were and are ****ing dreadful and we handed it on a plate.
What does he do the minute its 3-2? Throw the whole lot forward. Including Saiss.
Reactive, almost embarassing tactics and game management if ever I have saw it.
We was playing a dreadful Leeds side. Why not? Instead we left a gaping hole and encouraged a team to gain confidence, which they did.What would you have done?
The only thing would have been to go 4 2 3 really.
I’ll help pay his fine if he absolutely smashes friend in his interview. Who’s with me?
Much as l hate to do so l absolutely agree. He isn't half as clever tactically as he thinks that he is.Bruno to blame tonight. Utterly inept decision making. You deserve to concede 3 goals and ultimately the game when your winning 2-0 at home and playing a 5-4 formation against quite possibly the worst team in the league right now. They were and are ****ing dreadful and we handed it on a plate.
What does he do the minute its 3-2? Throw the whole lot forward. Including Saiss.
Reactive, almost embarassing tactics and game management if ever I have saw it.
A bit? Inept doesn't begin to describe it.Yep, lost it a bit tonight. The Hwang sub was completely baffling.
What a load of drivelBruno to blame tonight. Utterly inept decision making. You deserve to concede 3 goals and ultimately the game when your winning 2-0 at home and playing a 5-4 formation against quite possibly the worst team in the league right now. They were and are ****ing dreadful and we handed it on a plate.
What does he do the minute its 3-2? Throw the whole lot forward. Including Saiss.
Reactive, almost embarassing tactics and game management if ever I have saw it.
What a load of drivel
Any chance to slag him off
I think Bruno deserves the criticism. On this occasion his decision making was poor, he clearly got it wrong. Same as when we get good results and play well and he gets praised for the smart things he does. Dont see why people get such a bee in their bonnets about a bit of criticism.
You simply cannot legislate for how RAN, Saiss and Sa **** the bed, but persisting with a striker on a yellow when you have a two-goal lead, or continuing to play with a 3-4-2 that included Podence, failing to make a substitution until 78th minute, choosing Hwang when practically everyone else was a better option, when you add it all up Bruno had a total ****ing nightmare.Got it VERY wrong today, and has to address the worryingly high level of bottling in this team.
Hopefully he learns from this.
After how frustrated Raul was looking first half and with him being on a yellow I’d have subbed him for Fabio at half time.I’d have got Fabio on as soon as Raul was sent off and probably had Trincao playing just off him.
In Bruno’s defence though, we did still carry a threat with 10 men and you can’t really legislate for the types of goal we conceded.
My biggest issue was not starting 3-4-3 against a team that leaves so much space in their left-back position. As awful as it was to lose Neves, having Trincao on that side ahead of the Dendoncker-hybrid role made a massive difference.
If Saiss is that bad why does Lage keep picking him?The injury to one of the CMs was a help to Bruno as we brought on more attacking threat and a shape change. Obviously not good it was Neves tho. Leaving Pod up top was daft and basically anyone else would of done for more presence up there. But the goals conceded were down to the players, every goal was poor ability or poor decision making. Saiss in particular is just a car crash, he's been bloody awful since January
Him getting into argy bargy with the Leeds bench rather than concentrating on the game certainly didn't help. Hardly about to help considered decision making.He will make mistakes, he’s far from perfect. Disappointing though that any mistake seems to be an opportunity for some people to try manipulate to suit agendas.
I’m still a massive fan, just as I was with Nuno. My biggest criticism of Bruno though, and this is probably the one area for me he falls short versus Nuno, is how easily we sometimes fold. Only takes one bad call, like the red yesterday, and we all too easily seem to lose our heads. We used to be a lot more resilient than that as a squad.
One area to improve. Signing an actual midfielder would also help too.
Him getting into argy bargy with the Leeds bench rather than concentrating on the game certainly didn't help. Hardly about to help considered decision making.