What's up Doc?

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Rumours of a return for Matt Doherty gaining traction, deserves its own thread.

Discuss...

 

[SuperGran]

He’s free he brings experience he’ll be a squad player rather than a starter what’s not to like?

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

I like this transfer. It's low risk on a free. Not the end of the World should it go wrong, which it might...

But if it goes well, he'll be a useful addition to the squad.

My perspective is coming purely from looking to improve on last season and hopefully finish in the top half...

I don't for a second believe he's the "final piece of the jigsaw", but can hopefully be at least as "good" as Semedo and ship him out.

 

[Premier Quality]

Mods, could you copy the last 20 pages of the transfer thread over to here?

 

[geowolf]

Will increase our support at the Aviva (if it happens). Welcome home Doc.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

Hopefully Lopetegui's training times are slightly different to Nuno's so he doesn't keep trying to book my usual slot at the barber again!

 

[glorybox]

Meh

 

[Bostin]

If we were linked with a player who'd scored 8 goals from right back in 2 PL seasons, had an injury affected year at a top 6 club, then moved to a top 3 club in Spain, on a FREE, we'd all be saying gerrim in.

 

[bod101]

honestly? I think Jonny is better cover

 

[woop woop barmy army]

King and Doc in the shirt printing for these 2 wont be high.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

honestly? I think Jonny is better cover

Potentially. He can cover both sides too. So another way to look at it is we now have cover for the left and right all at the same time.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

Serviceable back up on a free.

If he went to Everton or Palace and we go into the season with Hoever, Bolla or Jonny as back up RB, they'll be people complaining we didn't bring him back.

I think the main backlash he's getting is because we haven't brought anybody to start or improve the starting 11 yet.

 

[Arcadius]

honestly? I think Jonny is better cover

Jonny was truly shocking last season!

 

[NorthWolf]

 

[Dan G WWFC]

honestly? I think Jonny is better cover

I'd have to disagree. Jonny looks completely finished. Doubt he'd get a game at most league 1 sides anymore.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

No one has mentioned salary I don’t think. He got himself a big wage rise at spurs and I doubt now he’s a free agent he’s going to be wanting to drop too much especially at his age. I’d be steering clear of giving him a big wage as potentially a part time player

 

[SakosRightFoot]

Jonny was truly shocking last season!

In fairness he had injuries and didn’t really get a run of games to get match fit. He did ok for a period it was just that last Leeds game where he was awful as many of them were and that was that

Personally if we’ve got Doherty, Jonny, Semedo & Bueno as full backs I wouldn’t be too upset

 

[old wittonian]

Potentially. He can cover both sides too. So another way to look at it is we now have cover for the left and right all at the same time.

At a ****ing great push he can also play centre back God forbid.

 

[Bostin]

honestly? I think Jonny is better cover

Johnny does usually cover well, but is only successful 97% of the time.

 

[AndyY]

honestly? I think Jonny is better cover

Not any more, IMHO

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

If he plays as RWB then fine, I always liked him there and I’m sure he could still do a job.

At RB, that would worry me.

 

[SuperGran]

 

[JimB]

When Spurs were in a decent run of form doc seemed to be playing quite regularly, he just suffered from injuries that hampered his progress.
I’m not adverse to seeing him come back, and hope he offers something like he did before, especially with assists and goals.
Welcome back Doc.

 

[Mutchy]

How much of Doc's past contributions do we lose without Cody pinging balls to him?

 

[Minimalist]

In fairness he had injuries and didn’t really get a run of games to get match fit. He did ok for a period it was just that last Leeds game where he was awful as many of them were and that was that

Personally if we’ve got Doherty, Jonny, Semedo & Bueno as full backs I wouldn’t be too upset

I don’t think we want Jonny and Doc.
Would far rather keep RAN or Giles for one spot.

 

[JOSWolf]

Really unsure about this. As a full back in a 4 he will struggle in my opinion.

 

[Minimalist]

Jonny was truly shocking last season!

I'd have to disagree. Jonny looks completely finished. Doubt he'd get a game at most league 1 sides anymore.

Although he is right footed , Jonny has actually never looked as good on the right hand side. (Bit like Boly). Maybe this is a factor in bringing in Doc.

 

[Narfolk Wolf]

Maybe good for the odd goal contribution, never been convinced about his defensive quality just not capable of tracking back.

 

[MasWolf]

I'm not a fan if this one to be honest. I was shocked when he left, but couldn't care less any more. Especially after his interview after he left came out when he spoke about pushing for a move away, yet in his final video for Wolves was talking about how he's looking forward to his future here.

 

[Berlin Wolf]

No one has mentioned salary I don’t think. He got himself a big wage rise at spurs and I doubt now he’s a free agent he’s going to be wanting to drop too much especially at his age. I’d be steering clear of giving him a big wage as potentially a part time player

Didn't Doc's wages jump from 60k to 180k a week when he went to Spurs? Whatever it was, I recall it was a big pay rise like you say.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Didn't Doc's wages jump from 60k to 180k a week when he went to Spurs? Whatever it was, I recall it was a big pay rise like you say.

I’m not sure on 180k but it was definitely six figures, that’s not an amount we should be paying a squad player imv

 

[Jefe]

The likely upshot of this signing is we will move Jonny on, which means we will make a little bit of money, add a homegrown player to the squad and free up a international spot. So it seems sensible if unspectacular. And I'd be lying if I said I didn't think it's nice to see one of the old boys back (all the way back to the days of Mick). Questions for me are: is Doherty the same player who left us (he was butchered by Matty Cash while playing for Spurs) and how does he fit into JL's gameplan? As a very advanced full back, TAA style, or will he only play from the bench when we seek to see out a lead and go to a back three?

 

[WolvesAndCows]

He'll probably end up joint 2nd top goalscorer next season.

 

[Rhoswolf]

I’m not sure on 180k but it was definitely six figures, that’s not an amount we should be paying a squad player imv

Even a third of that would be absurd for a bit part player.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Even a third of that would be absurd for a bit part player.

Agreed. £50-60k absolute maximum

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Really unsure about this. As a full back in a 4 he will struggle in my opinion.

I don't know what to think either. Part of me thinks the negativity is a bit OTT, part of me recalls he hasn't really done anything for quite a while now and never looked especially comfortable outside a 5-3-2/3-4-3.

The biggest part of me reserves judgement because often we are completely wrong about how successful a signing will anyway.

 

[WalsallWolf]

We needed an improvement at RB, not a RWB. That is unless we are suddenly reverting back to 3 at the back, which personally I don't see. Although to be honest, I wouldn't have a big issue with. The reason it became unstuck last time was down to personnel, not system.

I am against the signing and I worry we will have a similar attitude on the other flank. left back and right back were two big areas that needed addressing this summer imo.

 

[Asthmatic Wolf]

I’m no fan of Semedo but at this stage he is levels above Doherty

 

[wolveslegend]

poor by wolves, his wages could go towards someone who will play a lot more, people thinking they are getting the doc under nuno are deluded, he was poor before nuno and hasn't been any good since he legged it for a better wage (look how that turned out) . Bad call in my opinion. surely we have someone in the youth setup who could do the job he will.

 

[zedkiel60]

Not for me, yes hes scored the odd goal here and there but defending was mediocre at best.At the wages he probably wants in my opinion signing him shows a complete lack of ambition. He was allowed to leave for a reason, can anyone think he's improved since.