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It comes off a Wolves head for the first clearance. Apparently it doesn't matter anymore that the ball goes backwards, it can still be offside. That's the only thing I think it can be.View attachment 32329
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ok, but how is he interfering with play when he is miles away from everyone?It comes off a Wolves head for the first clearance. Apparently it doesn't matter anymore that the ball goes backwards, it can still be offside. That's the only thing I think it can be.
Because the ball goes back to Nunes and he puts the cross in for the goal.ok, but how is he interfering with play when he is miles away from everyone?
On this view, it possibly was. I'm not sure it ever mattered that the ball goes backwards, I think what matters is whether the player in the offside position is behind the ball, which Nunes wasn't.It comes off a Wolves head for the first clearance. Apparently it doesn't matter anymore that the ball goes backwards, it can still be offside. That's the only thing I think it can be.
It may well have come off Collins, but Hwang then heads it on and at that point Nunes is back onside. I’ve posted a rough picture of that point with a line showing roughly where they are and I’m adamant Nunes in on when Hwang touches the ball.It comes off a Wolves head for the first clearance. Apparently it doesn't matter anymore that the ball goes backwards, it can still be offside. That's the only thing I think it can be.
I think it's the same phase of play in this instance? Not sure.It may well have come off Collins, but Hwang then heads it on and at that point Nunes is back onside. I’ve posted a rough picture of that point with a line showing roughly where they are and I’m adamant Nunes in on when Hwang touches the ball.
Surely Hwang touching it makes Collins initial touch irrelevant.
But that header didn't go to Nunes but to Hwang.It comes off a Wolves head for the first clearance. Apparently it doesn't matter anymore that the ball goes backwards, it can still be offside. That's the only thing I think it can be.
It might be but I don’t get why that’s relevant.I think it's the same phase of play in this instance? Not sure.
If they hadn't made a pigs ear of reviewing and explaining it, we would know.
Maybe yeah. Like the Salah goal, when certain players become active or not and phases of play make it so confusing these days.It might be but I don’t get why that’s relevant.
As a comparison players stand in an offside position at free kicks all the time and then fall back in line after the ball is played in to the be onside after the next touch and that’s never given as offside otherwise surely a linesman just flags as soon as the free kick is taken?
It has to be Hwang’s header given where Nunes is on the pitch. Collins header wasn’t going to Nunes so there’s no way it’s the same phase.So is it the Collins or the Hwang Header that is the one that counts ?
The ball going forwards or backwards is irrelevant (not part of the rule)
If Nunes is in an offside position ( < 2 defenders in front) and is in front of the ball when it is played is what would determine offside
In both decisions for the 2 goals regardless of whether they were right or not to the letter of the law, in both cases they would seem to go against the intended purpose of the offside rule i.e. to prevent an attacker from gaining an advantage.
Salah clearly does gain an advantage from his position
Nunes gains no advantage, in face if he was in an offside position he'd be at a disadvantage compared to an onside position as the headers go backwards so he'd be further away,
Not sure they’ll even discuss it as they haven’t got the footage. Very convenient .I await Dermot Gallagher coming out in defence of all the decisions on Sky Sports tomorrow!
Paid up members of the Cartel, the lot of 'em!!!
I predict that Sky will lay their hands on some, merely as a dick swinging exercise, to show how they are seemingly more competent than other broadcasters!Not sure they’ll even discuss it as they haven’t got the footage. Very convenient .
Hope you’re right .I predict that Sky will lay their hands on some, merely as a dick swinging exercise, to show how they are seemingly more competent than other broadcasters!
I couldn't believe more wasn't made of this one, surely salah running past Toti in to an offside position affects his decision. Toti has to stretch and try to get something on the ball as he is aware the man is there and can't be sure he's offside. So how can Salah not be interfering with play.Maybe yeah. Like the Salah goal, when certain players become active or not and phases of play make it so confusing these days.
Just checked. It was raised slightly. The delay in raising it is the damning evidence for me. All our players looked across to the linesman to check and them immediately ran after Toti to celebrate when there was no initial flag.I thought the linesman’s flag when he finally put it up was straight out not held at an angle indicating the offside was in the centre not the far side of the pitch?
down to the change that came in this yearI couldn't believe more wasn't made of this one, surely salah running past Toti in to an offside position affects his decision. Toti has to stretch and try to get something on the ball as he is aware the man is there and can't be sure he's offside. So how can Salah not be interfering with play.
It has to be Hwang’s header given where Nunes is on the pitch. Collins header wasn’t going to Nunes so there’s no way it’s the same phase.
Just shows that there is absolutely no consistency in decision making even when VAR is used. If anything, VAR is adding confusion to decision making.As for Salahs goal, this is what happens in Scotland