JamesWolves
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£15m feels cheap. But if Lopetegui has no plan for him it’s £15m towards someone he will use.
Angers get 50% of any fee we get for him
£15m feels cheap. But if Lopetegui has no plan for him it’s £15m towards someone he will use.
50% of any fee above what we paid not the whole fee.Angers get 50% of any fee we get for him
Isn't it 50% of anything up from 10 million.Angers get 50% of any fee we get for him
Obviously don’t post them but do you know what the personal issues are?Without going into the details, I believe Rayan has been dealing with some pretty serious personal issues, and it's not a case of a bad attitude or lack of quality, or Julen not rating him. Best for all if he goes back to France, but I'm really disappointed he is off. Ridiculously high ceiling. Good luck in the future, Rayan.
Without going into the details, I believe Rayan has been dealing with some pretty serious personal issues, and it's not a case of a bad attitude or lack of quality, or Julen not rating him. Best for all if he goes back to France, but I'm really disappointed he is off. Ridiculously high ceiling. Good luck in the future, Rayan.
Obviously don’t post them but do you know what the personal issues are?
Have heard the same, and a great example of why a little consideration and kindness can go a long way. It’s difficult for some fans to think about (mainly because of sums of money involved now) but players are also human beings and go through difficult times too.Without going into the details, I believe Rayan has been dealing with some pretty serious personal issues, and it's not a case of a bad attitude or lack of quality, or Julen not rating him. Best for all if he goes back to France, but I'm really disappointed he is off. Ridiculously high ceiling. Good luck in the future, Rayan.
Wages are horrendous.. that's why he is leaving FulhamWe should look at Willian for sure.
That’s a shame. Saudi beckons.Wages are horrendous.. that's why he is leaving Fulham
Within our budget?………Wages are horrendous.. that's why he is leaving Fulham
No wayWithin our budget?………
Shame. You’d like to think we could compete with Fulham a little on what we can offer on wages.No way
Don’t see how buying younger players with potential is weakening the team. When it’s already been weakened by the players that have left Neves, Traore and so on. Change is for the better let’s embrace itWe are surely in a better position nw with FFP.....think the hard work has been done on that front myself.....we have still got a few we can move on but we definitely need to target quality.
Don't see any reason for the likes of Scott , Seville players, players on loan, loan option or obligation can not be targeted.....we need a few quality additions not mass change. ... especially with our FFP situation being eased. ...
Yes we want change and need a bit of change but it needs to off an advantage not further weakening...
35 year old Willian isn’t worth breaking our wage structure for. He had a good season, but he’ll obviously end up in Middle East or Turkey.Shame. You’d like to think we could compete with Fulham a little on what we can offer on wages.
Say what you like about the club but we do seem to do a reasonable job on ensuring wages aren’t getting out of control.
Shame. You’d like to think we could compete with Fulham a little on what we can offer on wages.
Say what you like about the club but we do seem to do a reasonable job on ensuring wages aren’t getting out of control.
Burnley bid for Jack Clarke. He looked very good for Sunderland last season.
No maybe not, my comment was more aimed at competing with another ‘mid table’ club like Fulham on wages. Or maybe we‘re not hence why he’s moving on!35 year old Willian isn’t worth breaking our wage structure for. He had a good season, but he’ll obviously end up in Middle East or Turkey.
Our best defender in a defence that’s declined. You can make the case that it’s declined due to the players around him but he’s still been a part of that. He was also a part of that defence which imploded against Brighton too.Unsuccessful ones that went too far in my opinion. Over time we have thrown out everything that was good in the side. That Brighton performance was mostly newbies. It is roughly half the players we bought in over the last 12 months that need to be first out the door.
Kilman has been our best defender for the past 3 seasons. I would argue he is the one player we should be keeping hold off.
Balogun I can dream of but Wahi seems more realisticNot sure if likely .. message passed to me that Mendes was looking at brokering a deal but there was no confirmation of Wolves interest.. Wahi is being valued at €30m .. not sure if Wolves would put €15m on Ran they would expect more
In the case of Collins you pay less you get an inferior player. When he signed he was a premier league player and an Irish international who was linked to Man United, who do you get for £10 million like that in todays game?We paid for a player who we thought had potential to be a long term rock of our defence, not necessarily to be the main man right now. At that level £20million was too much for a club like ours in the same way £35million was too much for Fabio and arguably £10million was too much on Hoever for where they are/were in their careers.
All I’m saying is you effectively halve those fees for those players and pressure is far less for them to be successful
You have answered your own question...the squad has been weakened by losing experience...it's not young players we need .. exception for the likes of Scott ....it's ready made players with experience.....no problem with change but it's about balance ...Don’t see how buying younger players with potential is weakening the team. When it’s already been weakened by the players that have left Neves, Traore and so on. Change is for the better let’s embrace it
Sorry Andy totally disagree.Kilman is far too passive
Dendoncker?Send him and 30 million to Lille for a swap to bring in my boy!
Prepare to be amazed.Sorry Andy totally disagree.
He is worth every penny of £30-40m.
Amazes me so many think a low lying premier league team will be able to acquire better.
If the price was right I’d take a chance on him. Needs to restart his career somewhere.Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hudson-Odoi looks like he's available around 15 million from Chelsea.
I appreciate he's gone off the boil the last year or so, but if we're selling Podence, whilst we clearly look to be losing Adama, he could be an option.
It would fit our apparent purchase price strategy this summer and he has such a high value ceiling being a young, home grown attacking player.
Loan with option.....only....Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hudson-Odoi looks like he's available around 15 million from Chelsea.
I appreciate he's gone off the boil the last year or so, but if we're selling Podence, whilst we clearly look to be losing Adama, he could be an option.
It would fit our apparent purchase price strategy this summer and he has such a high value ceiling being a young, home grown attacking player.
Well I’m not going to be amazed as I watch him week in week out. Not saying he’s perfect but I watched him enough in a back four in all those games when we kept clean sheets and he was pivotal. I know he doesn’t appear commanding in a demonstrative way but think of all those games when it was literally ping ball to our poor defence.Prepare to be amazed.
Kilman is ok in a 3, but in a 2 he's not proactive enough. He watches things unfold around him and rarely takes the initiative.
Another one on massive wages isn't he?Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Hudson-Odoi looks like he's available around 15 million from Chelsea.
I appreciate he's gone off the boil the last year or so, but if we're selling Podence, whilst we clearly look to be losing Adama, he could be an option.
It would fit our apparent purchase price strategy this summer and he has such a high value ceiling being a young, home grown attacking player.
Another one on massive wages isn't he?
120k by all accounts.Another one on massive wages isn't he?
Would be our top earner and I don't think he's that good.120k by all accounts.