Cynical indeed but True....Congratulations for the most cynical post of the year
Kwik fitIf they get rid of Asda where are our future transfer rumours gonna come from? They havent really thought this through!
You think this lot will provide genuine funding you're dreaming. Will go on a contract to Jenrick's mate who builds 10 houses for 500mSome nice ideas. What we need short term is to accelerate the City centre away from retail and towards hospitality, leisure events, more uni and actual housing. It's astonishing how few people actually live within the ring road. Secondly completely redesign the ring road. Move away from most of it if we can. The ring road goes through half of what i think is the actual City, so do away with what we can. Then replace it with a Metro loop extension around the City stopping at current sites (Art gallery, Civic halls, Molineux and others) and future sites (West side). Then lastly a feeder tram route into the town centre from Wednesfield and Willenhall. These are areas that historically are closely tied to Wolverhampton. Give people access to the town centre and footfall will go up.
I hold hope for Wolves in the next 20 years, i just hope the council are able enough to take advantage of Government funding that seems to be coming our way (see government housing department office in Wolves at i10 as a prime example)
Investment is already happening but okYou think this lot will provide genuine funding you're dreaming. Will go on a contract to Jenrick's mate who builds 10 houses for 500m
The bloke up the tree at compton
Not certain I’d want to but a year at the Alex Stadium in return for a new South Bank and Steve Bull might be worth it. Heck even Barcelona are moving out of the Nou Camp to redevelop.
Currently sat in it 30k capacity and I suspect we could go slightly higher.
Can we play the statue insteadRumour from the pub thread, they're getting rid of the tree and having a statue of Hwang in it's place
I was thinking more towards the tree...Can we play the statue instead
So long as they keep the temporary stands for Commonwealth Games then 30k capacity is fine and looks to me they could add a couple of thousand more. Even if they didn’t that capacity is likely to be higher than Molineux would be whilst it was being redeveloped.It's a touch small but I'd be okay with that. Not sure how they'd do that with the season ticket holders.
But if we could get some temp stands in and get the stadium revamped then it would be perfect. Especially if they just get the whole thing done. Even if it takes a couple of years.
So long as they keep the temporary stands for Commonwealth Games then 30k capacity is fine and looks to me they could add a couple of thousand more. Even if they didn’t that capacity is likely to be higher than Molineux would be whilst it was being redeveloped.
I’d worry about drop of form though during year away.
I don't think we'll be getting relegated or getting Europe so it's the best time to get a our stadium up to standard.
I didn't know it was 30k google said 18k
It’s 18k when the temporary stands have been removed, but 30k with them and the potential for 40k if needed..
As a temporary home while Molineux was redeveloped, it would be good. But I think we are at least 2 years behind in our planning for it to be an option.
Is it going anywhere, or could we already be in talks for it, I'd imagine they'd love the opportunity, to help pay for it
In 2019, I was told Wolves were in almost daily talks re stadium development with Wolverhampton City Council.With Wolverhampton Councils track record of delivery on time, don’t expect anything to happen in the near future.
lol do tellInvestment is already happening but ok
Some time around/after 2019 any stadium development came under the Molineux northern quarter regeneration scheme..where the University are very much involved and obvs things are much more complex. Guessing that`s why its all gone a bit quiet.In 2019, I was told Wolves were in almost daily talks re stadium development with Wolverhampton City Council.
Not my words. Almost daily talks.. that suggests intensive discussions were taking place, yet for some reason fizzled out with nothing happening.
In 2019, I was told Wolves were in almost daily talks re stadium development with Wolverhampton City Council.
Not my words. Almost daily talks.. that suggests intensive discussions were taking place, yet for some reason fizzled out with nothing happening.
Some time around/after 2019 any stadium development came under the Molineux northern quarter regeneration scheme..where the University are very much involved and obvs things are much more complex. Guessing that`s why its all gone a bit quiet.
Not being funny but have you ever been there?It’s 18k when the temporary stands have been removed, but 30k with them and the potential for 40k if needed..
As a temporary home while Molineux was redeveloped, it would be good.
Yep Wolves Wanted the Council to fund some of the redevelopment and they probably refused..Some time around/after 2019 any stadium development came under the Molineux northern quarter regeneration scheme..where the University are very much involved and obvs things are much more complex. Guessing that`s why its all gone a bit quiet.
Not being funny but have you ever been there?
The new stadium might look nice, but like all such places it would be terrible as a football stadium. That might be a price worth paying for an amazing New Molineux on the same plot, but it's also totally unsuitable in terms of access in my experience. I'd far rather us play at Villa Park if such an arrangement became necessary and possible.
Not that any of that matters, it's all about as likely as Lopetegui arriving and spending £100m rebuilding the team around Neves.
With talk of increasing capacity at Molineux, It would a good start if the city council would provide more match day parking. Cambridge Street was double yellow lined with only small amount of parking spaces.
And now Shaw Road has also been closed for parking, with double yellow lines.
Great photos, thanks for sharing! Really annoys me, this. Compare this to what Manchester got for the Commonwealth Games. The Midlands gets a new stand and a load of scaffolding. I can't help but think the games are just gonna be an embarrassment to the region, to be honest. I know we were awarded it later than usual, but it just feels like the Midlands has been shafted again.I went to the Diamond League Athletics on Saturday. It wasn’t too bad on a nice day as a one off, but I think crowds would seriously drop off if we were playing 19+ games there, especially for a second season and night matches.
The view wasn’t too bad for an athletics stadium, but the facilities are basic at best. No toilets, only portaloos, and none of those with hand washing facilities. Half a dozen catering vans at extortionate prices (even by stadium food prices). No roof behind either end, I caught the sun quite badly (note to self or anyone else: take a hat for the games in a few months), but also if/when it rains then it’s going to be really grim. There’s no cover anywhere, in or outside the stands.
Getting there was a pain in the **** too, even with dedicated shuttle busses. Classic British transport planning, instead of having them leave from outside New Street, you had to walk 15 minutes through the city centre to Aston University to catch them. There were no signs, only a couple of volunteers standing around looking bored, on their phone/smoking with signs propped up against the lamppost they were leaning on. Loads of people were lost and asking for directions, trying to follow the trickle of people. Then on the ‘shuttle busses’, instead of having a dedicated lane, a 2 mile, 10 minute journey took half an hour stuck in traffic, especially near the stadium where they didn’t seem to have publicised that they were closing roads given the amount of drivers holding traffic up doing 3 point turns. All a bit of a shambles that could have been done so much better. Good day other than that, but would be a real bind if Wolves moved there. Would sooner share at the Whorethorns.
Took some pictures if anyones interested.
Incidentally, the ‘big’ screens were as bad as ours are at Molineux. Couldn’t see a thing on them.
Even with the capacity, at 30,000 it will be the smallest stadium used since the 1980’s. Only Victoria in Canada in 1994 came close, and that’s a city with a population of 92,000!Great photos, thanks for sharing! Really annoys me, this. Compare this to what Manchester got for the Commonwealth Games. The Midlands gets a new stand and a load of scaffolding. I can't help but think the games are just gonna be an embarrassment to the region, to be honest. I know we were awarded it later than usual, but it just feels like the Midlands has been shafted again.
I went to the Diamond League Athletics on Saturday. It wasn’t too bad on a nice day as a one off, but I think crowds would seriously drop off if we were playing 19+ games there, especially for a second season and night matches.
The view wasn’t too bad for an athletics stadium, but the facilities are basic at best. No toilets, only portaloos, and none of those with hand washing facilities. Half a dozen catering vans at extortionate prices (even by stadium food prices). No roof behind either end, I caught the sun quite badly (note to self or anyone else: take a hat for the games in a few months), but also if/when it rains then it’s going to be really grim. There’s no cover anywhere, in or outside the stands.
Getting there was a pain in the **** too, even with dedicated shuttle busses. Classic British transport planning, instead of having them leave from outside New Street, you had to walk 15 minutes through the city centre to Aston University to catch them. There were no signs, only a couple of volunteers standing around looking bored, on their phone/smoking with signs propped up against the lamppost they were leaning on. Loads of people were lost and asking for directions, trying to follow the trickle of people. Then on the ‘shuttle busses’, instead of having a dedicated lane, a 2 mile, 10 minute journey took half an hour stuck in traffic, especially near the stadium where they didn’t seem to have publicised that they were closing roads given the amount of drivers holding traffic up doing 3 point turns. All a bit of a shambles that could have been done so much better. Good day other than that, but would be a real bind if Wolves moved there. Would sooner share at the Whorethorns.
Took some pictures if anyones interested.
Incidentally, the ‘big’ screens were as bad as ours are at Molineux. Couldn’t see a thing on them.
Cagliari in Italy have a temporary stadium that’s actually moved location three times!Thanks and great photos. Based on that, I’ll change my mind on my earlier comment about this being a good option. However it maybe is now a more realistic option since Jeff seems to love his roofless temporary stands!
More seriously. I commented a long time ago, that the club could kill two birds with one stone. Working with the council, build or refurbish a new community football stadium somewhere in Wolverhampton, with a new permanent stand and changing facilities, and make this the new home for Wolves Women. Similar to the Commonwealth Games Stadium, add in temporary stands like those in the photos while Wolves temporarily use it while Molineux is rebuilt, and then remove them when we move back, leaving the new permanent stand for the Womens team with space to grow as/when needed.
I imagine there are sources of funding from the government and sports groups for such a facility alongside any contribution Wolves might make.
Cagliari in Italy have a temporary stadium that’s actually moved location three times!
New stadium: The traveling home of Cagliari
stadiumdb.com
I think it would be feasible to build four temporary stands for a 30k capacity for two seasons. It wouldn’t be great facilities wise, but would do the job. West Park would be ideal, but maybe the centre of Dunstall Park more likely. You could even add roofs like Fortuna Düsseldorf did.
NUSSLI Builds Temporary Stadium for Fortuna Dusseldorf | NUSSLI Group
Fortuna Dusseldorf, a second division team of the German national soccer league, has recourse to a temporary stadium for its last three home matches…www.nussli.com
And don't forget, if they get promoted they're gonna need a bigger Hooters as well!!Forest success shows need for bigger City Ground but it's not that simple...
It's over three years since Forest announced plans for a new stand - and the details involved explain why it's been such a slow progresstheathletic.com
Interesting article on Forest’s issues with rebuilding their main stand.
This is just a small part of it, however, if you also consider that Nottinghamshire County Council – yes, there are threedifferent councils involved in this – has previously indicated it has its own conditions and, among these, wants almost £700,000 towards schooling costs.
- The city initially wanted Forest to pay “any cost of the works” that may be required on both the Trent and Lady Bay bridges that sit either side of the City Ground after the two structures have been assessed by highways inspectors as part of a transport review. Those costs could conceivably have run into vast figures.
- Forest were also asked, according to the same document, to make an “unspecified level of contribution” to a new footbridge that is being built further along the River Trent. Again, that would not have been a small amount, presumably, for a project that will run into millions of pounds.
- The council wants to upgrade “all bus stops within a pedestrian isochrone (the area accessible from a given point inside a certain time period) of the site and within the city boundary” that can be used to take supporters to the ground. That is obviously going to be a lot of bus stops – and it was initially proposed that Forest should swallow up those costs if the planning application was approved.
- The club had also been asked to pay for new cycle routes within “agreed distances” of the stadium, as well as upgrading the existing ones.
What do schools have to do with expanding the City Ground? This one takes a bit of explaining, but here goes.
Forest have submitted plans for an apartment block to be built alongside the new stand, consisting of a proposed 170 properties for more than 400 residents. The idea was that money from selling these apartments would help finance the overall project.
The county council estimate the apartment block’s residents will include 17 primary-school children and 13 of secondary-school age. And in June last year, it wrote to Rushcliffe council’s planning department to explain there was not enough classroom space in the area for those 30 kids. The county wanted £355,606 from Forest to go towards replacing an existing local primary school and £330,564 for building a new secondary school.
In addition, the county wanted annual payments of £70,000 towards a park-and-ride scheme, £40,000 for extra buses on the main A52 road into Nottingham from the east and west, £100,000 for public-transport ticket incentives (one example: reducing bus fares for match-goers) and £50,000 every year towards putting up electronic displays showing transport information.
Thanks and great photos. Based on that, I’ll change my mind on my earlier comment about this being a good option.
Im currently doing security at the smithfields site which will host beach volleyball and the basketball. The site looks like a bombs hit it syringes and rubbish and graffitti everywhere . Its going to be really embarrasing for birmingham. Will post pics after my next shift.Great photos, thanks for sharing! Really annoys me, this. Compare this to what Manchester got for the Commonwealth Games. The Midlands gets a new stand and a load of scaffolding. I can't help but think the games are just gonna be an embarrassment to the region, to be honest. I know we were awarded it later than usual, but it just feels like the Midlands has been shafted again.
Forest success shows need for bigger City Ground but it's not that simple...
It's over three years since Forest announced plans for a new stand - and the details involved explain why it's been such a slow progresstheathletic.com
Interesting article on Forest’s issues with rebuilding their main stand.
This is just a small part of it, however, if you also consider that Nottinghamshire County Council – yes, there are threedifferent councils involved in this – has previously indicated it has its own conditions and, among these, wants almost £700,000 towards schooling costs.
- The city initially wanted Forest to pay “any cost of the works” that may be required on both the Trent and Lady Bay bridges that sit either side of the City Ground after the two structures have been assessed by highways inspectors as part of a transport review. Those costs could conceivably have run into vast figures.
- Forest were also asked, according to the same document, to make an “unspecified level of contribution” to a new footbridge that is being built further along the River Trent. Again, that would not have been a small amount, presumably, for a project that will run into millions of pounds.
- The council wants to upgrade “all bus stops within a pedestrian isochrone (the area accessible from a given point inside a certain time period) of the site and within the city boundary” that can be used to take supporters to the ground. That is obviously going to be a lot of bus stops – and it was initially proposed that Forest should swallow up those costs if the planning application was approved.
- The club had also been asked to pay for new cycle routes within “agreed distances” of the stadium, as well as upgrading the existing ones.
What do schools have to do with expanding the City Ground? This one takes a bit of explaining, but here goes.
Forest have submitted plans for an apartment block to be built alongside the new stand, consisting of a proposed 170 properties for more than 400 residents. The idea was that money from selling these apartments would help finance the overall project.
The county council estimate the apartment block’s residents will include 17 primary-school children and 13 of secondary-school age. And in June last year, it wrote to Rushcliffe council’s planning department to explain there was not enough classroom space in the area for those 30 kids. The county wanted £355,606 from Forest to go towards replacing an existing local primary school and £330,564 for building a new secondary school.
In addition, the county wanted annual payments of £70,000 towards a park-and-ride scheme, £40,000 for extra buses on the main A52 road into Nottingham from the east and west, £100,000 for public-transport ticket incentives (one example: reducing bus fares for match-goers) and £50,000 every year towards putting up electronic displays showing transport information.
Is it a Labour councilForest success shows need for bigger City Ground but it's not that simple...
It's over three years since Forest announced plans for a new stand - and the details involved explain why it's been such a slow progresstheathletic.com
Interesting article on Forest’s issues with rebuilding their main stand.
This is just a small part of it, however, if you also consider that Nottinghamshire County Council – yes, there are threedifferent councils involved in this – has previously indicated it has its own conditions and, among these, wants almost £700,000 towards schooling costs.
- The city initially wanted Forest to pay “any cost of the works” that may be required on both the Trent and Lady Bay bridges that sit either side of the City Ground after the two structures have been assessed by highways inspectors as part of a transport review. Those costs could conceivably have run into vast figures.
- Forest were also asked, according to the same document, to make an “unspecified level of contribution” to a new footbridge that is being built further along the River Trent. Again, that would not have been a small amount, presumably, for a project that will run into millions of pounds.
- The council wants to upgrade “all bus stops within a pedestrian isochrone (the area accessible from a given point inside a certain time period) of the site and within the city boundary” that can be used to take supporters to the ground. That is obviously going to be a lot of bus stops – and it was initially proposed that Forest should swallow up those costs if the planning application was approved.
- The club had also been asked to pay for new cycle routes within “agreed distances” of the stadium, as well as upgrading the existing ones.
What do schools have to do with expanding the City Ground? This one takes a bit of explaining, but here goes.
Forest have submitted plans for an apartment block to be built alongside the new stand, consisting of a proposed 170 properties for more than 400 residents. The idea was that money from selling these apartments would help finance the overall project.
The county council estimate the apartment block’s residents will include 17 primary-school children and 13 of secondary-school age. And in June last year, it wrote to Rushcliffe council’s planning department to explain there was not enough classroom space in the area for those 30 kids. The county wanted £355,606 from Forest to go towards replacing an existing local primary school and £330,564 for building a new secondary school.
In addition, the county wanted annual payments of £70,000 towards a park-and-ride scheme, £40,000 for extra buses on the main A52 road into Nottingham from the east and west, £100,000 for public-transport ticket incentives (one example: reducing bus fares for match-goers) and £50,000 every year towards putting up electronic displays showing transport information.