Scott Sellars discuss .....

[Deleted member sbk12944]

Scott and the committee are doing a brilliant job. I do not understand any of the critics.
Yes it would be nice to finish one or two places higher and in securing the signing of one or two, perhaps we could. But why risk £20m or so on the clubs future in doing so?

Spot on just sign everyone up for life long contracts then we don’t have to change anything.

 

[BCWolf]

I suppose he could be seen as a great example of being promoted to a level of incompetence.

The Peter Principle. As in Peter Sellers.

Comes across as a royal *****. Hopefully when Fosun sell up the new owners will bring in a proper DOF.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

Fill in the blanks *****

 

[Deleted member sbk12944]

Fill in the blanks *****

There’s one too many letters

 

[Glass ankles]

He makes a cracking spag bol

 

[Sampford Wolf]

It depends on what his remit is, and, although we have a fair idea, none of us know for sure exactly what it is.

Also, why do so many on here associate spending money with the standard of D of F. If Fosun changed policy and spent £100m would that make Sellars better at his job.

 

[JadeWolf]

It depends on what his remit is, and, although we have a fair idea, none of us know for sure exactly what it is.

Also, why do so many on here associate spending money with the standard of D of F. If Fosun changed policy and spent £100m would that make Sellars better at his job.

A fair point. People have the same debate with managers don’t they. “Yeah Pep is brilliant but would he be as good at a club with less resources?”

 

[JOSWolf]

Not wishing to start any debates etc but has anyone noticed he has said nothing about transfers in and out of the club recently? I was expecting he would make comments on MGW departure today but it was Jeff Shi. Is he even still at the club?

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Not wishing to start any debates etc but has anyone noticed he has said nothing about transfers in and out of the club recently? I was expecting he would make comments on MGW departure today but it was Jeff Shi. Is he even still at the club?

Picked up on that too. I'd be surprised if he remains/is still there.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

Waste of space

 

[Shergar]

I heard for the past 12 days he has been locked up in the broom cupboard at Compton, they have told him the fire brigade will get there as soon as they can due to staffing issues, in the meantime he gets a Dominos pizza slid under the door at 6pm every day.

 

[Shergar]

On hearing this Cutrone has locked himself in the stationery cupboard… he awaits pizza.

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Probably busy negotiations with more Manchester City youth team cast offs

 

[wwbug]

I think Hoever was one of his. A last straw if it was IMO

 

[old wittonian]

The Peter Principle. As in Peter Sellers.

Comes across as a royal *****. Hopefully when Fosun sell up the new owners will bring in a proper DOF.

We can't wait that long.

 

[Flump]

Not wishing to start any debates etc but has anyone noticed he has said nothing about transfers in and out of the club recently? I was expecting he would make comments on MGW departure today but it was Jeff Shi. Is he even still at the club?

Lots of people have noticed, it's been repeatedly mentioned on here.

Perhaps Jeff wants the credit when it's giving a good message. Perhaps SS is fed up of some of the unfair flak he's received so wants to be less public facing. Or perhaps he's been sidelined.

 

[wwbug]

A fair point. People have the same debate with managers don’t they. “Yeah Pep is brilliant but would he be as good at a club with less resources?”

Good managers and good DOFs go to companies with good players . So you cant separate the two.

What we needed at Wolves is someone , Sellars, capable of looking at a team identifying weaknesses and informing Shi .

How on unearth we spent money but ended up with a completely unbalanced squad has to be down to Sellars IMO .

 

[JOSWolf]

Lots of people have noticed, it's been repeatedly mentioned on here.

Perhaps Jeff wants the credit when it's giving a good message. Perhaps SS is fed up of some of the unfair flak he's received so wants to be less public facing. Or perhaps he's been sidelined.

To be honest I havent seen it repeatedly mentioned on here but bow to your superior knowledge.

 

[Flump]

To be honest I havent seen it repeatedly mentioned on here but bow to your superior knowledge.

?? No need to bow - you asked two questions, and I replied to both!

 

[wwbug]

Lots of people have noticed, it's been repeatedly mentioned on here.

Perhaps Jeff wants the credit when it's giving a good message. Perhaps SS is fed up of some of the unfair flak he's received so wants to be less public facing. Or perhaps he's been sidelined.

Here is your chance to be fair ................... name his successes .

 

[Flump]

Here is your chance to be fair ................... name his successes .

What? I didn't say he's great, I said I think they are the 3 options for what's going on.

It's very hard for anyone outside the club to judge his effectiveness, as we don't have much visibility of what he's doing, and which bits he is responsible for compared to Jeff working directly with Mendes. And on topics where I don't think I can make a safe judgement, I tend to keep quiet so I don't say something ill-informed.

 

[giantwolf]

Not wishing to start any debates etc but has anyone noticed he has said nothing about transfers in and out of the club recently? I was expecting he would make comments on MGW departure today but it was Jeff Shi. Is he even still at the club?

He was at the Fosun gathering at the weekend - in a suit rather than his oversized coat.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

I bet Jorge will only deal with Jeff, the decision-maker, so you won't see Scott in any of the big deals. Bit of a David Brent kinda role, when the decisions are to be made, the big guns from Head Office pitch up.

 

[wwbug]

What? I didn't say he's great, I said I think they are the 3 options for what's going on.

It's very hard for anyone outside the club to judge his effectiveness, as we don't have much visibility of what he's doing, and which bits he is responsible for compared to Jeff working directly with Mendes. And on topics where I don't think I can make a safe judgement, I tend to keep quiet so I don't say something ill-informed.

If we watch Wolves on the pitch we should see where the top football man in the club is (or is not having) a beneficial effect ? And able to post opinions on him .

 

[Cuban Wolf]

Sorry, but these 'discuss........' threads remind me of getting a dissertation from a lecturer or teacher. Boring

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Sorry, but these 'discuss........' threads remind me of getting a dissertation from a lecturer or teacher. Boring

You do know you have a choice, you don't have to participate.

Boring post btw

 

[Flump]

You watch Wolves and you cant see where the top football man in the club is (or is not having) an effect ?
But you have commented on posters treating him unfairly .
Its all laid out on the pitch. And he has spoken of his role at round table meetings.

You read Molineux Mix and can't see that a lot of posters make sweeping statements about subjects they don't know much about?

Let's take what people slate him for the most - the Traore deal. Did he make this deal? Was it his idea? Or did Mendes ring Jeff and sort it out, presumably getting input from SS and Lage about how much Traore would be missed for 4 months? I don't know, but maybe you do.

 

[VancouverWolf]

If we watch Wolves on the pitch we should see where the top football man in the club is (or is not having) a beneficial effect ? And able to post opinions on him .

They could be wrong ( or right ), opinions, though, couldn’t they?
We don’t have enough info to judge him accurately. And Sellars has to work within Shi’s transfer budget.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

Has this thread become the last refuge for the "Fosun Out / Small Time Jeff" brigade? Who is left to have collective moan about? What will they turn to if he really has been sidelined?

 

[Wolf in the sun]

geezzz i thought we were all happy again

 

[KBWWFC]

Has this thread become the last refuge for the "Fosun Out / Small Time Jeff" brigade? Who is left to have collective moan about? What will they turn to if he really has been sidelined?

This guy.

 

[Flump]

This guy.

Remember when people weirdly decided Ian Cathro was useless based on... I don't know, him being Scottish, or a bit nerdy or something

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

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This guy.

Bet the next time they line up he will have shuffled down the other end of the line and Bruno will be looking nervously to his right.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

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This guy.

About time someone finally pointed out the failings of 'this guy'.

Villa are streets ahead of us on and off the pitch and do you know why? They got 'that guy', whilst we were lumbered with 'this guy'.

Makes you wonder where Fosun's head is at?

 

[wolfslair]

They could be wrong ( or right ), opinions, though, couldn’t they?
We don’t have enough info to judge him accurately. And Sellars has to work within Shi’s transfer budget.

His failure to produce any decent academy talent at Man City or numbers in the England age groups from that to feed a production line with all the money he was given to spend that led to his sacking is good enough data for me that he is not very competent in any position he has had at the club apart from being a good academy coach and that isn’t a slight as those people are very important.

When he leaves us, I doubt he gets as good a job or works with another prem club.

 

[VancouverWolf]

His failure to produce any decent academy talent at Man City or numbers in the England age groups from that to feed a production line with all the money he was given to spend that led to his sacking is good enough data for me that he is not very competent in any position he has had at the club apart from being a good academy coach and that isn’t a slight as those people are very important.

When he leaves us, I doubt he gets as good a job or works with another prem club.

Good points but maybe it’s not a good idea of comparing his role at City with his role with Wolves. He may have a similar roles now but not exactly the same or budget. Might even be less responsiblities.
Basically, we don’t know what he and Jeff agreed on when he was hired so we can’t accurately judge.

 

[Flump]

His failure to produce any decent academy talent at Man City or numbers in the England age groups from that to feed a production line with all the money he was given to spend that led to his sacking is good enough data for me that he is not very competent in any position he has had at the club apart from being a good academy coach and that isn’t a slight as those people are very important.

Firstly, that's not really "data", or if it is, the sample size is too small. Even if you're looking at the number of players brought through, it's notoriously difficult to analyze that, given how rarely even the best clubs bring through a first team talent.

But does that mean you'd review your position if presented with new data?

Scott Sellars has left Manchester City by mutual consent with the head of academy coaching having turned down an expanded role within the club's youth set-up.

 

[VancouverWolf]

Firstly, that's not really "data", or if it is, the sample size is too small. Even if you're looking at the number of players brought through, it's notoriously difficult to analyze that, given how rarely even the best clubs bring through a first team talent.

But does that mean you'd review your position if presented with new data?

Re your last sentence……didn’t know that. Interesting.

 

[wwbug]

They could be wrong ( or right ), opinions, though, couldn’t they?
We don’t have enough info to judge him accurately. And Sellars has to work within Shi’s transfer budget.

Dont get me wrong ,Sellars is in my opinion just the youth coach.

 

[wwbug]

You read Molineux Mix and can't see that a lot of posters make sweeping statements about subjects they don't know much about?

Let's take what people slate him for the most - the Traore deal. Did he make this deal? Was it his idea? Or did Mendes ring Jeff and sort it out, presumably getting input from SS and Lage about how much Traore would be missed for 4 months? I don't know, but maybe you do.

To be fair he is just the youth coach . We move on. He is not worth discussing he has little influence.