Newcastle United Takeover

[Mile End Wanderer]

To be fair they have got finally rid of Ashley. I felt exactly the same when we finally got rid of Moxey after 16 years and I can gladly thank Fosun for that. Now OK Moxey didnt own Wolves but I still saw him as the main barrier to our club ever making any progress as I'm sure the Toon fans have seen Ashley as a barrier to progress.

Ashley has put a fair bit of money in to be fair, just the fans hate him. MOXEY wanted to run us on nothing. Newcastle have spent big amounts pre covid

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

According to the Telegraph, they could spend up to £190 million in Jan and still be within FFP. This apparently means Kane and Mbappe are not out of reach. A story it sounds like based completely on speculation. Saw elsewhere they want Conte as boss, but he’s turned them down, which also seems made up tbh?

It’s Newcastle, this will prob all go tits up somehow? Whilst I might welcome some big money coming in at Wolves, I certainly wouldn’t be dancing in the streets dressed up as a Sheikh to welcome in some Saudi govt investment fund.

I'm fully expecting a backlash from the established elite manifesting itself with some dubious officiating directed Newcastle's way, aided by the PGMOL in an effort to see the Magpies relegated.

 

[Rangiora Wolf]

Wouldnt be shocked if they went for Lingard and Coutinho in January.

We might go back in for kieffer moore.

 

[Tring Wolf]

Targeting Lucien Favre or Frank Lampard to replace Bruce apparently.

 

[Flump]

Targeting Lucien Favre or Frank Lampard to replace Bruce apparently.

If they bring in Lampard (will they become Frank Lampard's Newcastle United?) then I can't see it working out at all, Tuchel has made Frank look worse and worse with every game.

 

[Rangiora Wolf]

If they bring in Lampard (will they become Frank Lampard's Newcastle United?) then I can't see it working out at all, Tuchel has made Frank look worse and worse with every game.

It'll give them wall to wall coverage on sky sports news.

 

[Jonzy54]

Ashley has put a fair bit of money in to be fair, just the fans hate him. MOXEY wanted to run us on nothing. Newcastle have spent big amounts pre covid

I always felt it was Moxey rather than Morgan who held us back but I would love to know what his true motives were? He picked up a huge salary and a multitude of bonuses during his tenure but what was his ultimate goal? We never seemed to have good sponsorship deals for the shirts ,our kit manufacturers deals would never push the boundaries to aid the club commercially,everything was done on the cheap and he seemed pre-occupied on lost income due to illegal tv streams .
I always felt that with SJH being an absent owner ,provided he kept the club above water financially he could run the club as his baby .Morgan used to be around more than SJH but in many respects the principle was the same.
His stay hit the buffers when Morgan decided to sell and Fosun weren’t prepared to let him continue to have a free reign .I wouldn’t begin to categorise JS being of the same ilk as JM but eventually Fosun through JS are going to need to push the club forward again .

 

[WickedWolfie]

Love this peetake.....

Breaking: Messi bids tearful goodbye to PSG ahead of Newcastle move

So soon?

news.paddypower.com

 

[Sammy Chungs Tracksuit]

I always felt it was Moxey rather than Morgan who held us back but I would love to know what his true motives were? He picked up a huge salary and a multitude of bonuses during his tenure but what was his ultimate goal? We never seemed to have good sponsorship deals for the shirts ,our kit manufacturers deals would never push the boundaries to aid the club commercially,everything was done on the cheap and he seemed pre-occupied on lost income due to illegal tv streams .
I always felt that with SJH being an absent owner ,provided he kept the club above water financially he could run the club as his baby .Morgan used to be around more than SJH but in many respects the principle was the same.
His stay hit the buffers when Morgan decided to sell and Fosun weren’t prepared to let him continue to have a free reign .I wouldn’t begin to categorise JS being of the same ilk as JM but eventually Fosun through JS are going to need to push the club forward again .

Personally I always thought Moxey's motives were pretty constant. To maximise his bonus each year with maximum certainty. I'd be reasonably confident that his earnings were related to financial performance and thats why he always failed to spend that little bit extra when needed and would always hold back and go for the cheapest option wherever possible. Anyway good ridance to him, we were on a slow downward spiral on his watch. He was never a complete financial disaster area but he was strangling the life out of the club.
Jackett dug him out of a very deep hole after the double relegation to League 1 and he rewarded him by buying Saville & Rowe instead of properly strengthening so we missed out on the play offs on goal difference when just that little bit extra could have seen a double promotion.

 

[sswolf]

I must have missed sky following partying wolves fans everywhere for days
We were in the championship it barely got a mention not really comparable at all

So you must of missed also all the posts on the forums regarding who wolves were going to sign especially when they got promoted and the likes of villa Leeds and derby moaning saying it wasn’t fair just like premier league clubs are doing now regarding Newcastle
There’s no difference between the two clubs both steeped in History but have under achieved in recent years
If I’m correct Newcastle’s history is slightly better than wolves but not by much

 

[sswolf]

I'm just wondering if women will be banned from watching at St James Park now?

Great idea I wonder if they can ban them from the molineux also especially when you hear their high pitch squeals when there’s some action in the play like a goal mouth scramble

 

[Guzeppi]

1. Nobody is excusing the Saudis, least of all me. Their government ( = MBS) is guilty of appalling crimes, including the mass bombing of Yemeni civilians (which by the way is not 'genocide', which means the mass killing of a whole race of people, and the Yemenis are not a separate 'race' -- I am not excusing it, it's just the wrong term). One of the countries supplying weapons to the the Saudis is the UK, which should be ashamed

2. What about the Chinese? Their government is guilty of the systematic killing and brainwashing of an ethnically Turkish Muslim community called the Uighurs, thousands of them. That IS 'genocide'. FOSUN is a Chinese investment company that only operates in the way it does because it keeps onside with the government that is committing this atrocity. Not to mention the killing and locking up of Hong Kong Chinese for having the cheek to criticise them.

Which profile is worse for the owners of a PL football club? Take your pick!

I think they're both doing a great job.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Fosun arent much better than the Saudis, both governments and their chosen companies shouldn't be fit and proper to run a club. Still renewed my ST, and yes I'm a hypocrite and yes wish we had nicer owners..... thing is, billionaires don't tend to be philanthropists these days.
Anyway hope they get Lampard and stay easy to beat, and go down.
Both clubs seemed about the same size, we just missed out on a generation of Midlands potential in the 80s, and didn't get the extra buzz as much as them through the 90s. Maybe with a 40k ground we could've matched them?

 

[WickedWolfie]

Great idea I wonder if they can ban them from the molineux also especially when you hear their high pitch squeals when there’s some action in the play like a goal mouth scramble

@SuperGran and @Netherton Wolf will be after your bits with pinking shears... You really don't want to know what @Mutchy has in mind.... lol

 

[clivewolves]

Imagine Newcastle fans finally getting their club back only to become Frank Lampard's Newcastle

 

[AndyWolves]

David Squires on … Newcastle United’s Saudi takeover

Our cartoonist on the controversial Tyneside takeover and the questions of morality and mental gymnastics that have followed it

www.theguardian.com

 

[bod101]

Great idea I wonder if they can ban them from the molineux also especially when you hear their high pitch squeals when there’s some action in the play like a goal mouth scramble

Are you just fishing/or looking for a wind up?

 

[sswolf]

Are you just fishing/or looking for a wind up?

No it’s my view. Opinions are like ********s we all got one
I cannot be done with the sound of shrieking women at a football match, as much as someone can’t put up with any other annoying supporter

 

[WickedWolfie]

No it’s my view. Opinions are like ********s we all got one
I cannot be done with the sound of shrieking women at a football match, as much as someone can’t put up with any other annoying supporter

Sadly for you we are in the 21st century and no longer play at Dudley Road....

 

[sswolf]

Sadly for you we are in the 21st century and no longer play at Dudley Road....

Sadly for you we live in a democracy where people are allowed their views to me shrieking women is like the sound of finger nails down a black board.

 

[bod101]

Sadly for you we live in a democracy where people are allowed their views to me shrieking women is like the sound of finger nails down a black board.

We can I ask that you keep these kind of opinions off this forum please.

 

[sswolf]

We can I ask that you keep these kind of opinions off this forum please.

Sorry there’s no sexist racist or homophobic comment it’s something that grinds my teeth no different to having fan next to you who moans all game or the one with bad personal hygiene

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Fosun arent much better than the Saudis, both governments and their chosen companies shouldn't be fit and proper to run a club. Still renewed my ST, and yes I'm a hypocrite and yes wish we had nicer owners..... thing is, billionaires don't tend to be philanthropists these days.
Anyway hope they get Lampard and stay easy to beat, and go down.
Both clubs seemed about the same size, we just missed out on a generation of Midlands potential in the 80s, and didn't get the extra buzz as much as them through the 90s. Maybe with a 40k ground we could've matched them?

"Fosun aren't much better than the Saudi's"

I'm no expert on Fosun's atrocities, so please do enlighten me to their many evil wrongdoings.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

"Fosun aren't much better than the Saudi's"

I'm no expert on Fosun's atrocities, so please do enlighten me to their many evil wrongdoings.

How about the glazers milking Man Utd giving them self personal loans off the club then writting them off as a financial loss at the end of the financial year hilarious

 

[JohnMatrix]

Thank you for your wisdom "Dr" JohnMatrix. I can see that there is no end to your abilities as you are not content to merely issue a free unsolicited medical diagnosis on the status of my mental health but you also have made yourself Molineux Mix's leading self appointed arbiter of what constitutes legitimate opinion and what is in fact a conspiracy theory. Molineux Mix is truely blessed to have recruited such an esteemed member. Emphasis on member.

Thanks mate can you send me a PM and I will give you my address details so you can anoint me with this PHD that you're able to award to members? I do not think of myself as the sword of sanghelios, however if there is a democratic vote and I am the people's choice then sure I will take up the mantle, regards, John Matrix.

 

[thommo1984]

Sorry there’s no sexist racist or homophobic comment it’s something that grinds my teeth no different to having fan next to you who moans all game or the one with bad personal hygiene

Of course it's a sexist comment. The fact you don't think it is speaks volumes.

 

[sswolf]

Of course it's a sexiest comment. The fact you don't think it is speaks volumes.

Of course it's a sexiest comment. The fact you don't think it is speaks volumes.

I think the problem is you’re getting me confused with someone who gives a ****

 

[bod101]

And we'll leave that there shall we. As already posted don't want a repeat of that type of posting please.

 

[WickedWolfie]

How about the glazers milking Man Utd giving them self personal loans off the club then writting them off as a financial loss at the end of the financial year hilarious

Hardly compares with having critics murdered or bombing a neighbouring country back to the stone age.

 

[chignalwolf]

Murder Inc is now a Premier League club. Murderers are welcome if they’re rich enough.

The Premier League only believe in money. That’s all that matters to them!

Football is rotten with it, rotten to the core

you got that right mate, its rotten to the core, to be honest although its great to see us back where we should be i would still be quite happy if Bully, Plant, Noddy etc ( proper Wolves people ) had purchased the club and we were still in the championship, but i can fully understand the younger fans need a bit of success,
We have also seen some real quality players recently,

 

[lostwolf]

"Fosun aren't much better than the Saudi's"

I'm no expert on Fosun's atrocities, so please do enlighten me to their many evil wrongdoings.

Fabio Silva. Only joking.

They're intimately tied up with the CCP though, Guo is part of their nomenclature and so a part of their system of repression. The CCP style theirs as a socialist democracy but in fact they've taken the worst elements of ideologies and systems (e.g. dictatorial politics coupled with capitalist exploitation of their people and the planet). Their cruelty towards the Uighurs is just the most obvious way their values differ from those I'd like us to aspire to.

Honestly though, I've given up caring, or at least feeling I have any agency here. I've been through an anti modern football, non league only phase but I missed Wolves too much - the community, the buzz, the pub, seeing friends and family etc. They've got us over a barrel as the yanks would say.

 

[derbyrameater]

.."Spokesman Xu Guixiang said on Monday that the claims were intended to “frame China” as part of a cold-war strategy to turn public opinion against Beijing..

..The US embassy recently claimed on social media that a “100-year-old” plaque had been removed from the Id Kah mosque in Kashgar as a result of “the Chinese government’s suppression of Islam in Xinjiang.”

But the mosque’s imam, Memet Jume, showed photographs of the plaque in the main prayer hall, where it has been temporarily placed while repair work is done on the building’s entrance.

Washington has consistently peddled claims that between one and three million Muslims are being held in concentration camps and that China is carrying out a genocide of the Uighur people.

It has presented no credible evidence to support its assertions, which have been rejected by Beijing and a large number of Muslim-majority countries.

Instead, the US campaign relies on “research” by discredited Christian fundamentalist Adrian Zenz, who believes he is on a mission from God to save the world from the Chinese Communist Party..

..The movement has been responsible for thousands of terrorist attacks in Xinjiang and sent a brigade to fight alongside jihadists in Syria.

More recently, Uighur militants were said to be behind a bomb attack in Afghanistan. Nonetheless, the US removed the group from its terror list in October 2020. .

..A 2019 visit by the UN counterintelligence chief, which Washington opposed, found no evidence of mass human rights abuses or genocide."..

Xinjiang government accuses US of lying as part of cold-war propaganda offensive against China

www.morningstaronline.co.uk

 

[lostwolf]

.."Spokesman Xu Guixiang said on Monday that the claims were intended to “frame China” as part of a cold-war strategy to turn public opinion against Beijing..

..The US embassy recently claimed on social media that a “100-year-old” plaque had been removed from the Id Kah mosque in Kashgar as a result of “the Chinese government’s suppression of Islam in Xinjiang.”

But the mosque’s imam, Memet Jume, showed photographs of the plaque in the main prayer hall, where it has been temporarily placed while repair work is done on the building’s entrance.

Washington has consistently peddled claims that between one and three million Muslims are being held in concentration camps and that China is carrying out a genocide of the Uighur people.

It has presented no credible evidence to support its assertions, which have been rejected by Beijing and a large number of Muslim-majority countries.

Instead, the US campaign relies on “research” by discredited Christian fundamentalist Adrian Zenz, who believes he is on a mission from God to save the world from the Chinese Communist Party..

..The movement has been responsible for thousands of terrorist attacks in Xinjiang and sent a brigade to fight alongside jihadists in Syria.

More recently, Uighur militants were said to be behind a bomb attack in Afghanistan. Nonetheless, the US removed the group from its terror list in October 2020. .

..A 2019 visit by the UN counterintelligence chief, which Washington opposed, found no evidence of mass human rights abuses or genocide."..

Xinjiang government accuses US of lying as part of cold-war propaganda offensive against China

www.morningstaronline.co.uk

Is this all from the ideologically moderate Morning Star 'newspaper'? If we'd been owned by East Germany in the 80s they'd have been defending their Stalinist chums in similar terms, drawing on similar, very selective evidence (the Stasi are all about the rule of law etc.). About as reliable as the Mail Online! The CCP are wrong'uns end of story. I can't get my head round people trying to defend them. Even without the Uighur repression, they're bloody horrible.

 

[Sergeant Hakeswill]

.."Spokesman Xu Guixiang said on Monday that the claims were intended to “frame China” as part of a cold-war strategy to turn public opinion against Beijing..

..The US embassy recently claimed on social media that a “100-year-old” plaque had been removed from the Id Kah mosque in Kashgar as a result of “the Chinese government’s suppression of Islam in Xinjiang.”

But the mosque’s imam, Memet Jume, showed photographs of the plaque in the main prayer hall, where it has been temporarily placed while repair work is done on the building’s entrance.

Washington has consistently peddled claims that between one and three million Muslims are being held in concentration camps and that China is carrying out a genocide of the Uighur people.

It has presented no credible evidence to support its assertions, which have been rejected by Beijing and a large number of Muslim-majority countries.

Instead, the US campaign relies on “research” by discredited Christian fundamentalist Adrian Zenz, who believes he is on a mission from God to save the world from the Chinese Communist Party..

..The movement has been responsible for thousands of terrorist attacks in Xinjiang and sent a brigade to fight alongside jihadists in Syria.

More recently, Uighur militants were said to be behind a bomb attack in Afghanistan. Nonetheless, the US removed the group from its terror list in October 2020. .

..A 2019 visit by the UN counterintelligence chief, which Washington opposed, found no evidence of mass human rights abuses or genocide."..

Xinjiang government accuses US of lying as part of cold-war propaganda offensive against China

www.morningstaronline.co.uk

The problem with articles like that is there is no way to know how accurate they are. The Morning Star is right up there with the sun, daily star and even guardian / telegraph. They all have agendas and I dont trust any of them.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Fabio Silva. Only joking.

They're intimately tied up with the CCP though, Guo is part of their nomenclature and so a part of their system of repression. The CCP style theirs as a socialist democracy but in fact they've taken the worst elements of ideologies and systems (e.g. dictatorial politics coupled with capitalist exploitation of their people and the planet). Their cruelty towards the Uighurs is just the most obvious way their values differ from those I'd like us to aspire to.

Honestly though, I've given up caring, or at least feeling I have any agency here. I've been through an anti modern football, non league only phase but I missed Wolves too much - the community, the buzz, the pub, seeing friends and family etc. They've got us over a barrel as the yanks would say.

They're intimately tied up the same as anyone wanting to make their way in China. If you don't play ball, you don't make your way.

It's a little unfair to pin the treatment of the Uighurs on Fosun in my opinion. It's like blaming me for the Irish potato famine.

 

[Sammy Chungs Tracksuit]

Thanks mate can you send me a PM and I will give you my address details so you can anoint me with this PHD that you're able to award to members? I do not think of myself as the sword of sanghelios, however if there is a democratic vote and I am the people's choice then sure I will take up the mantle, regards, John Matrix.

Congratulations. You're the first and only Molineux Mix member on my ignore list!

 

[Sammy Chungs Tracksuit]

..A 2019 visit by the UN counterintelligence chief, which Washington opposed, found no evidence of mass human rights abuses or genocide."..

Did Sepp Blatter become a UN counterintelligence chief?

 

[WickedWolfie]

See if you can watch this without a desperate desire to retch....

Newcastle fan pens cringemaking tribute to Amanda Staveley

Set to the tune of 'Mandy' the song has social media reaching for the sick bucket.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

Edit: l should have said listen not watch.

 

[whitnash wolf ex.dewsbury]

See if you can watch this without a desperate desire to retch....

Newcastle fan pens cringemaking tribute to Amanda Staveley

Set to the tune of 'Mandy' the song has social media reaching for the sick bucket.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

yuk!

 

[derbyrameater]

Is this all from the ideologically moderate Morning Star 'newspaper'? If we'd been owned by East Germany in the 80s they'd have been defending their Stalinist chums in similar terms, drawing on similar, very selective evidence (the Stasi are all about the rule of law etc.). About as reliable as the Mail Online! The CCP are wrong'uns end of story. I can't get my head round people trying to defend them. Even without the Uighur repression, they're bloody horrible.

The MS doesn't claim to be ideologically moderate.

And it isn't owned by billionaires in cahoots with the industrial/military complex.

But if it makes you feel comfortable go along with those who habitually tell lies leading to war.

A footnote, the MS has consistently analysed Stalins period and criticised the period of terror.