Magnificent - Brentford Verdict Thread

[Poztin]

If it means anything, Specsavers didn’t think it was a red on Twitter either…

 

[KnowNuttin]

The stamp on Doyle was far less impactful than what Gomes did. Now, the stomp on Doyle should have been penalized too, but I'd definitely say you're letting bias get the best of you.

There was no malicious intent from Gomes, but it was a really, really bad challenge that left a player injured.

The consequences are largely irrelevant. It's the offence itself. Gomes makes a genuine attempt to play the ball. He was stretching and missed and caught the player, but he kept his foot at ball height. It's not a red for me, but in today's climate it's not that surprising. I think many refs give a yellow for it though.

The Daamsgard incident was malicious. He's nowhere near the ball and forcefully plants his studs on Tommy's upper ankle/shin in stamping motion and had potential to cause much worse damage than Gomes tackle. As clear a red card as you'll see.

 

[JadeWolf]

The stamp on Doyle was far less impactful than what Gomes did. Now, the stomp on Doyle should have been penalized too, but I'd definitely say you're letting bias get the best of you.

There was no malicious intent from Gomes, but it was a really, really bad challenge that left a player injured.

The fact that there bloke got injured and Doyle didn’t has no relevance though. If you watch both clips back, Gomes is going for the ball and gets it wrong, their bloke looks at where Doyle is first and then stamps on him. It was disgusting. I’ve got no real issue with Joao getting sent off but for their player to stay on the pitch after that was a disgrace.

 

[Wagstaffe Was Magic]

Well done Wolves.

I refrained from commenting on the matchday thread because of all the negativity, with some saying the game was over after the sending off. Thank goodness Gary O’Neil and the team were more positive and didn’t throw the towel in.

Do yourself a favour and AVOID the Comms Thread, it’s populated by doom mongers and naysayers !!!

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

How did the away fans sound?

Got a very hoarse voice this morning.

 

[Olivergoldblack]

Absolutely love this group of players, had a spell not that long ago where I was losing that real buzz but it is more than back now really look forward to games and watching this group!

Cunha sums up this side real quality but also doesn't stop running. Serious player!

Yep, Cunha terrific. He put a serious shift in again.

 

[MikeH68]

How did the away fans sound?

Got a very hoarse voice this morning.

Me too!

 

[Olivergoldblack]

How did the away fans sound?

Got a very hoarse voice this morning.

Loud, very loud. For the second time this season at that place. We own the Gtech now. Loved the bully songs and the relentless jeering and sarcasm at their players. Great job. Hope your voice gets better.

 

[MikeH68]

Do yourself a favour and AVOID the Comms Thread, it’s populated by doom mongers and naysayers !!!

Got to be honest, I was at the game and I thought it was over too. However, we were massively resilient. Excellent performance and attitude.

 

[Brixton Wanderer]

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They make more noise on a forum than they do in the stands.

Utterly pathetic club in terms of support and gamesmanship. Never won **** all. Once Toney leaves they will sink and nobody will notice or care.

 

[Premier Quality]

How did the away fans sound?

Got a very hoarse voice this morning.

Absolutely brilliant, you guys did an amazing job!

 

[JadeWolf]

Even once Joao was sent off, with Cunha, Sarabia, Bellegarde on and Neto to come on I knew we’d score, it was about could we keep in the game. We were fantastic.

 

[Wolf316]

Gary says Gomes was a red meanwhile Frank says the Doyle one wasn’t. Shows who’s got class and who hasn’t.

 

[JadeWolf]

The red cards are rightly getting a lot of attention but I think more of a fuss should be made that the free kick they scored off was a blatant dive, no contact whatsoever. And they took it from a different place to where it happened.

 

[wolvesaywe]

They make more noise on a forum than they do in the stands.

Utterly pathetic club in terms of support and gamesmanship. Never won **** all. Once Toney leaves they will sink and nobody will notice or care.

Small clubs always revert to the mean. They will plummet eventually

Actually quite liked them when we were both battling at the top in League One but the fans and the team are now a mirror of the god awful Frank

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Gary says Gomes was a red meanwhile Frank says the Doyle one wasn’t. Shows who’s got class and who hasn’t.

Both incidents are bad as each other. Both should of been red cards.

Then we have someone putting hands round neck at the end did VAR turn off by this point? Too many inconsistencies for it to be human error. They tried everything to make Brentford win. Corrupt to the core. Sooner VAR is ran by separate entity we may see some fair decisions. It’s mates backing up their mates. We will never get anything. Especially against a london club let’s not forget that.

Hopefully we make it cheap enough to sell out the replay, 15 adults kids a fiver or something.

Make it hostile and turn them over in style. Brentford now on my hate list and that’s not a good list to be on.

 

[Rowzed]

Will the replay be before Tony's back?

Can’t play if not available for first game

 

[WickedWolfie]

How did the away fans sound?

Got a very hoarse voice this morning.

Absolutely loud and proud. Loved it!

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Can’t play if not available for first game

Not necessarily true. It depends on the reason why they weren’t available for the first game. Rule 15 (f) states:-

All players must have been eligible to play in the original tie in order to play in a replayed or postponed match; however a player who has been suspended according to the disciplinary procedures under the Rules of The Association may play in a postponed or replayed match after the term of his suspension has expired

https://www.thefa.com/~/media/776fdc2c663a48568fc3688fa667463a.ashx#:~:text=(f)%20All%20players%20must%20have,term%20of%20his%20suspension%20has

Since Toney was registered, but suspended in the original game then my interpretation is that he can play in a replay if it’s after his suspension has ended. That’s also how the journalists seem to see it.

 

[thommo1984]

The stamp on Doyle was far less impactful than what Gomes did. Now, the stomp on Doyle should have been penalized too, but I'd definitely say you're letting bias get the best of you.

There was no malicious intent from Gomes, but it was a really, really bad challenge that left a player injured.

Spot on. A lot of gold tinted glasses on display.

 

[MikeH68]

Spot on. A lot of gold tinted glasses on display.

Can’t agree, it’s more of a sending off for the tackle in Doyle. Less of a head butt’ on Kilman springs to mind.

 

[SuperGran]

Sums Brentford up completely

 

[WickedWolfie]

Sums Brentford up completely
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Der, it's called support! The chino ****ers should try it some time....

Not a dig at you SG.

 

[JadeWolf]

Sums Brentford up completely
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Why? It’s called supporting your team. They should try it sometime.

 

[JonahWolf]

Sums Brentford up completely
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I assume that’s why Sa was giving them some at the end, since the only noise they made all night was ‘your **** aaaaaaaah’ at goal kicks.
Pot, tin, reorder.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Spot on. A lot of gold tinted glasses on display.

Maybe, but the facts of the case are, in Gomes tackle, yes poorly timed and the studs contacted the players leg, he was moving towards the ball. In the tackle on Doyle, the player actually moved his boot away from the ball, opened his stance and aimed at Doyle's leg.

 

[maws]

Just seen the red and the Doyle stamp, how’s one red and one not?? They’re almost identical.

Doyle’s strike is even better on tv than in the flesh!!

 

[lobodelsur]

TBF he should have been booked as he initially stopped the lad getting the ball back for the corner, which is what caused the scuffle.

Except theres plenty of balls available all round the stadium. Why not just take another one ?

 

[Willywolf]

Spot on. A lot of gold tinted glasses on display.

I think the problem is that whilst there wasn’t much force, so less impactful, that is by pure chance.
The fact is Damsgaard went over the ball and his studs ended up around Doyle’s ankle - an equally poorly timed challenge. Either they are both red, or neither. Personally, I’d say both yellow, but can accept both being red too. I actually feel the Damsgaard one is a worse challenge, but having said that, I don’t feel there needed to be different treatment to Gomes, they should be the same.
I don’t think it’s gold tinted specs necessarily, just frustration at a complete lack of consistency.

 

[lobodelsur]

Just got back.

Firstly can I just say our fans were unreal. No idea what they sounded like on tv but created some atmosphere.

On TV it sounded like we were the home team. Incredible support from the 12th - sorry, 11th - man tonight.

 

[Bryce]

I think the problem is that whilst there wasn’t much force, so less impactful, that is by pure chance.
The fact is Damsgaard went over the ball and his studs ended up around Doyle’s ankle - an equally poorly timed challenge. Either they are both red, or neither. Personally, I’d say both yellow, but can accept both being red too. I actually feel the Damsgaard one is a worse challenge, but having said that, I don’t feel there needed to be different treatment to Gomes, they should be the same.
I don’t think it’s gold tinted specs necessarily, just frustration at a complete lack of consistency.

I have watched both and I agree. Both red or neither red. With todays interpretation I can just about see it as a red for both

However Semedo should have been sent off as well for his brutal attack on poor Lewis Potters hands with his throat. ffs

 

[Achilles Last Stand]

The Lewis****-Potter incident; I rewatched it again on Viaplay now today, and he basically grabbed Nelsons throath with one hand and pushed him backwards with force.
Prior to that there were some handbags (close to the advertising boards) between Lewis-Potter, Semedo and another Brentford player, probably one of the Danes.

 

[JadeWolf]

I have watched both and I agree. Both red or neither red. With todays interpretation I can just about see it as a red for both

However Semedo should have been sent off as well for his brutal attack on poor Lewis Potters hands with his throat. ffs

I think we can all go along with the Gomes red, as long as the Brentford player gets red too. For him to not even get booked is scandalous.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I think we can all go along with the Gomes red, as long as the Brentford player gets red too. For him to not even get booked is scandalous.

That’s my feeling on it. If there is consistency then either both are red or neither are.

The Semedo one is even more ridiculous. Not been able to raise your hands like that in well over a decade.

 

[Ned]

I said this last season but Brentford are the only fans who cheer winning free kicks and throw ins louder than they actually cheer goals. Yellow cards for opponents and the place erupts.

Honestly the most tin pot club I’ve ever encountered. Even worse than Reading.

 

[North West Wanderer]

I take back what i said about not minding Brentford. **** em.

 

[wulfie88]

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Sums Brentford up completely
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It does indeed sum them up. Silent as a mouse the entire game, despite a sell out crowd and leading for a large part of the game. By contrast the Wolves fans were loud and proud the entire game, even when we were 1-0 down. Barely believable that their own supporters would call out Wolves fans for being too passionate!

 

[Darvo]

Well done Wolves.

I refrained from commenting on the matchday thread because of all the negativity, with some saying the game was over after the sending off. Thank goodness Gary O’Neil and the team were more positive and didn’t throw the towel in.

I like the cut of your jib Frank

 

[Wonder Boyo]

Doyle goal from a few angles.