January 2024 transfer window thread.

[WISAW]

He wouldn’t play one for us either.
An option from the bench and nothing more.

An expensive bench warmer then. I just don't see the point in his signing.
Rather spend that money on a lower league player who might come good. Makes zero sense to me signing Ings.

 

[JadeWolf]

I get why people aren’t keen on Ings but would we have two extra points right now if he played last night?

 

[AndyY]

I get why people aren’t keen on Ings but would we have two extra points right now if he played last night?

I genuinely don’t think so as I don’t think he is fast enough to keep up with our counter attacks.

 

[AndyY]

An expensive bench warmer then. I just don't see the point in his signing.
Rather spend that money on a lower league player who might come good. Makes zero sense to me signing Ings.

Agree he is an expensive bench warmer, unless WHU are subbing his wages, but will his wages cause division in the camp with other players who are starting and performing well not be8mg paid as much. Squad harmony is important.

 

[Minimalist]

Agree he is an expensive bench warmer, unless WHU are subbing his wages, but will his wages cause division in the camp with other players who are starting and performing well not be8mg paid as much. Squad harmony is important.

I really can’t see us getting him unless we expect him to be a starter.

 

[Mutchy]

I get why people aren’t keen on Ings but would we have two extra points right now if he played last night?

I think we may well have done if Hwang had.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

It's been reported that O'Neil was pushing as soon as he appointed to get a striker in.

So we're talking five months to get a striker and they're leaving it until the last week and Danny Ings on loan to become our top earner is apparently the solution. It really isn't good enough.

Ings is better than nothing, which is what we have. I'm not counting Fraser as he's 18, yet to play in the PL and was set to join Shrewsbury, so it's unfair to expect him to do the role of a second-choice striker.

However, I don't see how Ings is a real solution. Even if he did well, are we really going to sign him in the summer when he will be 32 and on wages in excess of £100,000 a week? I would hope not.

And, that's if he does well. The reality is he has scored two PL goals in 28 games for West Ham. So, if you take a balanced view, he's not good enough.

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

I get why people aren’t keen on Ings but would we have two extra points right now if he played last night?

Except he would have to replace someone in the team which may limit the chances we have created without him.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

I think we may well have done if Hwang had.

Cunha and Hwang partnership works best you can tell Cunha misses his playing style. Hwang played last night we would of won.. Scoring goals is important if we want to win games

Danny Ings is big wages for a short period. Pointless signing

 

[Muscat]

What planet are some of you on? Ings was MOTM in a Premier League game as recently as Sunday. We aren't going to get our long-term striker signed in January with no budget. A loan of a player who can play at the level, knows the league, will have no settling in period is ideal.

 

[Supadavewolf]

two PL goals in 28 games for West Ham

I'm also not convinced by him given his age, injuries and apparent cost, though in fairness the 28 games equates to 994 minutes, approx 10 full games. 1 in every 5 is hardly prolific but is a fairer reflection of his scoring record.

 

[Skrilla]

What planet are some of you on? Ings was MOTM in a Premier League game as recently as Sunday. We aren't going to get our long-term striker signed in January with no budget. A loan of a player who can play at the level, knows the league, will have no settling in period is ideal.

We're only allowed to sign world beaters apparently, even though we're skint till the summer.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

What planet are some of you on? Ings was MOTM in a Premier League game as recently as Sunday. We aren't going to get our long-term striker signed in January with no budget. A loan of a player who can play at the level, knows the league, will have no settling in period is ideal.

Because your 'can play at the level' is very debatable right now.

 

[Rowzed]

It's been reported that O'Neil was pushing as soon as he appointed to get a striker in.

So we're talking five months to get a striker and they're leaving it until the last week and Danny Ings on loan to become our top earner is apparently the solution. It really isn't good enough.

Ings is better than nothing, which is what we have. I'm not counting Fraser as he's 18, yet to play in the PL and was set to join Shrewsbury, so it's unfair to expect him to do the role of a second-choice striker.

However, I don't see how Ings is a real solution. Even if he did well, are we really going to sign him in the summer when he will be 32 and on wages in excess of £100,000 a week? I would hope not.

And, that's if he does well. The reality is he has scored two PL goals in 28 games for West Ham. So, if you take a balanced view, he's not good enough.

Jimenez signed for Fulham at 32 and 100k per week, he hadn’t scored regularly for months. So it is likely the going rate, particularly if you expect to loan him for a period with no commitment to buy.

Even with a commitment to buy it wouldn’t be far off. We can only hope to compete in the market if we pay the going rate or shop elsewhere. All players will have options. If we stick to buying young and hungry we either get an unproven 19-20 year old or someone from a foreign league who won’t get up to speed in February.
Any experience will cost and likely be a loan or an FFP fire sale - so last week of the window stuff

 

[Muscat]

We're only allowed to sign world beaters apparently, even though we're skint till the summer.

Baffles me that people are saying Ings is a short-term solution and that's a negative. That's exactly what we need, isn't it? Someone who can make an impact until May, won't cost the Earth (probably less than 2m for his wages), will hit the ground running and has proven ability in the league we're in. That's Ings.

Then re-evaluate in the summer.

 

[Muscat]

Because your 'can play at the level' is very debatable right now.

Was literally MOTM at this level two days ago.

 

[loppers86]

I don’t want ings, we’ve moved away from old players looking for one last payday

i don’t want ings, broja or adams. However i didn’t want dean sturridge or chris iwelumo either!

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Was literally MOTM at this level two days ago.

He hasn't scored a Premier League goal for 11 months.

He's scored in 1 out of 28 games for West Ham in the league - and that was against Nottingham Forest (he scored two in that game), admittedly a lot as a sub.

He has zero goals in all competitions this season, which includes games against TSC from Serbia, Lincoln and Bristol City.

In my opinion, all of that overrides a commentator giving him MOTM against the worst team in the league.

I accept it's an okay deal financially for only six months, but I think the idea he is good enough for the Premier League right now is up for debate, and you can see my view on him.

Whoever we sign in this role is likely to play some part in every game, so I would like it to be better than Ings.

 

[brianm]

I think Ings has the right style for the system. He does like to press, and the kinds of goals he is good at finishing are those that come off deep turnovers and scrambles in the box.

No interest in tying the club to him in any longer term way, but I could see him come on for either Cunha or Hwang in most matches and giving the team some legs and nous.

 

[wwbug]

It's been reported that O'Neil was pushing as soon as he appointed to get a striker in.

So we're talking five months to get a striker and they're leaving it until the last week and Danny Ings on loan to become our top earner is apparently the solution. It really isn't good enough.

Ings is better than nothing, which is what we have. I'm not counting Fraser as he's 18, yet to play in the PL and was set to join Shrewsbury, so it's unfair to expect him to do the role of a second-choice striker.

However, I don't see how Ings is a real solution. Even if he did well, are we really going to sign him in the summer when he will be 32 and on wages in excess of £100,000 a week? I would hope not.

And, that's if he does well. The reality is he has scored two PL goals in 28 games for West Ham. So, if you take a balanced view, he's not good enough.

Totally agree with your post

The need for a central striker , as an alternative, as cover as a focal point has been screaming at us for years. Why dont we put in the ground work throughout the year, not in the last week of a window ? Its back to players your 10 year old child could name by watching MOTD on Sunday morning.
There are teams all over Europe and the world that could lead the line from our benches . There is hardly a Premier League team that has none like us.

 

[Berkshire Wolf]

This is all a big misunderstanding, Gary said he wanted signings, not sign Ings...

 

[Muscat]

Totally agree with your post

The need for a central striker , as an alternative, as cover as a focal point has been screaming at us for years. Why dont we put in the ground work throughout the year, not in the last week of a window ? Its back to players your 10 year old child could name by weatching MOTD on Sunday morning.
There are teams all over Europe and the world that could lead the line from our benches . There is hardly a Premier League team that has none like us.

Because we have no money and it's January.

 

[Muscat]

He hasn't scored a Premier League goal for 11 months.

He's scored in 1 out of 28 games for West Ham in the league - and that was against Nottingham Forest (he scored two in that game), admittedly a lot as a sub.

He has zero goals in all competitions this season, which includes games against TSC from Serbia, Lincoln and Bristol City.

In my opinion, all of that overrides a commentator giving him MOTM against the worst team in the league.

I accept it's an okay deal financially for only six months, but I think the idea he is good enough for the Premier League right now is up for debate, and you can see my view on him.

Whoever we sign in this role is likely to play some part in every game, so I would like it to be better than Ings.

Did you watch the game? He was excellent. I would saying actually playing well in the league we're in trumps your subjective view of him.

A PL ready striker at this time of the season for what we can afford is fantasy land stuff. They don't exist. The fact that we can get someone as good as Ings is huge.

 

[sc91]

What planet are some of you on? Ings was MOTM in a Premier League game as recently as Sunday. We aren't going to get our long-term striker signed in January with no budget. A loan of a player who can play at the level, knows the league, will have no settling in period is ideal.

He was playing a team that'll be battling for mid table at best in the Championship next season, hence why I said, don't get blinded by that performance.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Did you watch the game? He was excellent. I would saying actually playing well in the league we're in trumps your subjective view of him.

A PL ready striker at this time of the season for what we can afford is fantasy land stuff. They don't exist. The fact that we can get someone as good as Ings is huge.

Yes I did. He wasn't 'excellent' IMO. I thought West Ham were terrible on the whole and Moyes said it was the worst performance under him.

If the MOTM was awarded at full-time instead of before the final whistle, I would say with near 100% confidence that a Sheff Utd player would've won MOTM, making your point irrelevant.
Instead, it was called in the 89th minute and they decided to go with a player on the winning team, and Ings probably was their best player.

He was probably a 7 or 8 out of 10. It was hardly incredible.

And, you're totally ignoring a year of evidence for one game against Sheffield United. That's not very balanced.

We can do a lot more than you think. A loan with an obligation for a better player is the obvious one.

 

[Muscat]

We lost to Sheffield United, in case you'd forgotten.

Who is this mythical PL standard striker who we can sign now on loan please? I am all ears.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

We lost to Sheffield United, in case you'd forgotten.

Who is this mythical PL standard striker who we can sign now on loan please? I am all ears.

What's us losing to Sheffield United got to do with anything? They're still poor.

Also, the whole point that you're seemingly ignoring is that Ings is not a Premier League standard striker in my opinion.

If it's a case of Ings or nobody, I'd take Ings.

I would have hoped our recruitment team could find better considering it has been the priority for five months.

If you want a name, I actually think Brereton Diaz would've been more suited to us, and he would have joined easily and within the budget.

Capable of playing across the front three. Good at pressing. Mobile. Fits the profile of the squad in that he's younger/hungry. Has also scored more PL goals than Ings this season despite playing only 66 minutes.

That's not me saying Brereton Diaz is brilliant or the answer. Just gives you an idea of where I rate Ings at the moment.

 

[Supadavewolf]

Who is this mythical PL standard striker who we can sign now on loan please? I am all ears.

Sounds like a request to recall Guedes, he might be all ears but he's arguably not PL standard.

 

[Muscat]

What's us losing to Sheffield United got to do with anything? They're still poor.

Also, the whole point that you're seemingly ignoring is that Ings is not a Premier League standard striker in my opinion.

If it's a case of Ings or nobody, I'd take Ings.

I would have hoped our recruitment team could find better considering it has been the priority for five months.

If you want a name, I actually think Brereton Diaz would've been more suited to us, and he would have joined easily and within the budget.

Capable of playing across the front three. Good at pressing. Mobile. Fits the profile of the squad in that he's younger/hungry. Has also scored more PL goals than Ings this season despite playing only 66 minutes.

That's not me saying Brereton Diaz is brilliant or the answer. Just gives you an idea of where I rate Ings at the moment.

So you can't name one? As expected.

 

[we love jez moxey]

Ings would be the signing of a desperate team..We're not desperate and we're playing very well. I'd rather Keep the money in the bank and carry on as we are.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

So you can't name one? As expected.

I named Brereton Diaz?

 

[Muscat]

I named Brereton Diaz?

Oh is he available? Why don't we just sign Mbappe?

 

[Starsky]

Would much rather provide Fraser with minutes than spend wages on Ings.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Oh is he available? Why don't we just sign Mbappe?

What lol?

Yes he was available. He joined Sheffield United this window on loan from Villarreal. So he would've been within our budget and he would surely have chosen to sign for us over them.

 

[North West Wanderer]

It would seem a strange move to loan one injury prone striker and replace him with another. I’d have kept Sasa ahead of signing Ings myself.

However if this is what GON wants then i’m inclined to agree with him. He’s earned the right to make that choice.

 

[Muscat]

What lol?

Yes he was available. He joined Sheffield United this window on loan from Villarreal. So he would've been within our budget and he would surely have chosen to sign for us over them.

Sorry are out scouts capable of time travel? BBD has moved to Sheffield United. I want to know who we can get now who is PL standard, will join and who we can afford.

 

[Supadavewolf]

On balance I think there's enough "30+" outfield experience in the squad already without Danny Ings -
Semedo
Doherty
Dawson
Lemina
Sarabia

Four regular starters there. However, if it's Ings or Nowt, I'll take Ings - so long as the cost is reasonable and the commitment is short-term.

 

[Edinburgh Wolf]

I named Brereton Diaz?

Who's currently playing for the ****e, mid-Championship quality team West Ham played at the weekend.

 

[Skrilla]

What lol?

Yes he was available. He joined Sheffield United this window on loan from Villarreal. So he would've been within our budget and he would surely have chosen to sign for us over them.

Brereton Diaz hadn't scored a goal this season until the weekend, and had never played a minute at this level either. Hardly levels above Ings, who's scored over 70 goals at this level. Of course his best years are behind him but he could make an impact on a short term loan.

We hardly have a plethora of options on a limited budget and with clubs not wanting to do business in January.

 

[NothingButNeto]

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