How would you finish the season?

[WickedWolfie]

Who would ask for a refund on their season ticket if the remainder of the season had to be played behind closed doors
I wouldn’t

I'm sure that most people would, particularly if the prices go up again for next season.

 

[Jonzy54]

I wouldn't, but I'd like to think the club would give us a discount in the future.

If that was the price to pay for non playing staff not to lose out financially so be it

 

[Hot Fuss]

If that was the price to pay for non playing staff not to lose out financially so be it

Fosun made a profit of well over a billion pounds in 2019. Some of the players earn 100k a week.

 

[Titch]

Who would ask for a refund on their season ticket if the remainder of the season had to be played behind closed doors
I wouldn’t

I most definitely would. We are not a small little family run club, some of the players are on upward of 100k a week, most at least 50k. The owners are billionaires.
Me and many other Wolves fans have no work and no pay at the minute or for the foreseeable future.
In years gone by I went to every testimonial game to support many an ex-player, but the game has long since changed from then.

 

[Jonzy54]

Fosun made a profit of well over a billion pounds in 2019. Some of the players earn 100k a week.

I realise that but Fosun are the global umbrella.The club has to stand on its own two feet more and more

 

[Hot Fuss]

I realise that but Fosun are the global umbrella.The club has to stand on its own two feet more and more

I get that, but in this pandemic I personally don’t think it’s down to the fans to sort the employees out in this terrible situation. A lot of us have worries about work now.

To be fair it’s a pointless argument as I honestly think the owners will do the right thing by the employees and the fans.

 

[Jonzy54]

I get that, but in this pandemic I personally don’t think it’s down to the fans to sort the employees out in this terrible situation. A lot of us have worries about work now.

To be fair it’s a pointless argument as I honestly think the owners will do the right thing by the employees and the fans.

They probably will and I am sure the players would take a pay cut down the line too.
Don’t get me wrong I have every sympathy what many fans are going through at the minute both work and money wise.

 

[inaglasshouse]

This litigation argument is getting on my tits. The club's are part of an organisation whether they like it or not. If clubs vote for a solution then that's the end if it.
That's why the most likely solution will be the one that pleases the most clubs. That will be to end the season with the tables frozen with Liverpool rightly crowned champions and no relegation.
The top teams in each league below will feel cheated so bung them some compo, villa and west ham can pay.
Ignore the euro placings and plan to start the season late e.g october with the EL and CL restarting/replaying from the knockout stage to complete this year's competitions and reduce congestion. This will give the team's the right time from August to have a proper pre-season and reduce the number of fixtures with no more Europe this calendar year and no league cup at all. No FA cup replays and why not let the lower team play at home in each tie if it makes financial sense for them.

 

[WickedWolfie]

This litigation argument is getting on my tits. The club's are part of an organisation whether they like it or not. If clubs vote for a solution then that's the end if it.
That's why the most likely solution will be the one that pleases the most clubs. That will be to end the season with the tables frozen with Liverpool rightly crowned champions and no relegation.
The top teams in each league below will feel cheated so bung them some compo, villa and west ham can pay.
Ignore the euro placings and plan to start the season late e.g october with the EL and CL restarting/replaying from the knockout stage to complete this year's competitions and reduce congestion. This will give the team's the right time from August to have a proper pre-season and reduce the number of fixtures with no more Europe this calendar year and no league cup at all. No FA cup replays and why not let the lower team play at home in each tie if it makes financial sense for them.

Frankly the chances that there will not be litigation if the season isn't finished is pretty much zero. The effect on your tits will not figure in the calculations.

 

[waggys left foot]

Champions League & Europa League suspended 'until further notice'
European comps suspended indefinitely.

You have to laugh at Uefas optimism -yet another meaningless timetable .

UEFA aiming to complete Champions League in AUGUST | Daily Mail Online

 

[Guzeppi]

The effect on your tits will not figure in the calculations.

Thank you !

This will be entered into the "Covid-19 Funniest Quips" Competition.

It's a great contender in my opinion, and stands a very good chance of winning this prestigious competition.
Just a reminder: The "Covid-19 Funniest Quips" will run till October.
Winners will be decided in November and announced in early December 2020. In the grand finale, the rules and conditions of next year's Competition for Covid-20 will also be unveiled.

 

[waggys left foot]

Report on the Prems conference call with the PFA.


Premier League tells PFA players will have to share in financial pain

 

[Ponty]

Absolutely no reason not to complete fixtures. Then start next season a little later. If time is short just play each team once in the 2020/21 season, with a draw to see which games are at home and away.

 

[RMNottm]

Yes

I think the season is over. I cannot see any way that thousands of fans will be allowed to congregate any time soon.

And playing behind closed doors defeats the object.

Write the season off and give Liverpool the title, they deserve it.

you cannot write off the season and give Liverpool the title

 

[Cornwall Wolf]

If no more games can be played the fairest system would be to take the average points earned from games played this season and multiply by 38 .. fairest all round

 

[Hereford Wolf]

Begin everything again in March 2021. Just take up where we left off. Easy.

 

[WickedWolfie]

If no more games can be played the fairest system would be to take the average points earned from games played this season and multiply by 38 .. fairest all round

Assumes that no team has either a run of form or a slump when in reality both happen. Also effectively ends up with the tables as they were when matches were suspended since all teams had played pretty much the same number of games.
I am certain that any club relegated by such a method would litigate.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

It's time to come up with Football's equivalent of Duckworth Lewis. Factors to take into account:
1. Remaining fixtures - position of opponent, we have played most of our fixtures against teams above us so a sliding scale of difficulty based on position of opponent over the remaining fixtures should be applied. So Liverpool would have a difficult rating of 20 and Norwich 1, this weekend's fixture would see Wolves at 14 vs Villa at 2 or 7-1 in our favour.
2. Expected goals - for and against, there is a formula for this I think already, factored by the difficulty score so our goal difference to date is 0.2 in our favour multiplied by the difficulty factor would give us a GD for the Villa game of 1.4 goals in our favour. Villa's would be - 0.8 so the spread would be 2.2 goal difference
3. Form - the above would take the form over the last five games (points gained) and multiply the goal difference. Wolves 9 points to Villa's 3 so point 3:1 ratio or 6.6 goals in our favour.
4. Talent - our OVR Points on Fifa 20 is 78 compared to Villa of 76 a difference of 2 so we now have 13.2 goals in our favour (NB if the opponent has a greater OVR than us and we win we should take the difference in our favour and multiply it by 2)

So we beat Villa take an extra 3 points and increase our GD by 13 goals. Simple, now all we have to do is the same for Bournemouth, West Ham............

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Also think that as next season needs to be condensed, especially for those of us with European commitments, the bottom three should be relegated and no promotions and the League Cup be suspended for a season to help fixture congestion in The Championship

 

[Pagey]

Think I've just heard Belgium have concluded their season, with league positions staying as they are.

Club Brugge announced champions

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Think I've just heard Belgium have concluded their season, with league positions staying as they are.

Club Brugge announced champions

Precedent set

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

Get Stockley Park to formulate results for rest of season,i mean they already know the top teams results dont they?

 

[1972 i began]

I just cant see how this season will be finished. It'll be a minimum of 8 weeks until this social distancing is done then 4 weeks for the players to get back to match fitness. That takes us to July to then get a lot of games in. Wouldnt be suprised for an announcement in a few weeks where the whole season is voided.

not a chance it will be voided.All they have to do is finish this season behind closed doors.Say the end of july.Have a month off and start the new season in september.Do away with the League Cup,FA Cup and play 2 games a week if they start to fall behind.Finish the euro cups off this season and bin it for a year the same as domestic cup games.Start Normal games in 2021/22.

 

[Pagey]

Another factor they have to consider, if they want to complete this season, is every player has a clause in their contracts entitling them to 3 consecutive weeks holiday during the close season.

Doesn't sound much, but if present season isn't completed till August, then it will leave a very small window for any preseason. I can't see any tours/many friendlies this summer, which could affect the results early into next season.

 

[hoop]

Just play all remaining games as 45 minutes total.
Tell our lot that we’re only playing the second half of matches and we are guaranteed champions league next year.

 

[Pagey]

A problem with playing behind closed doors and televising, is fans will meet up.

Maybe not at the grounds, but families/friends will visit each other to watch the matches on TV. Maybe have a drink together, bbq etc.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Whenever the hell we get the tests to say if you've had the virus and recovered... those people should be allowed to go to the games. At some point we have to get things moving, and with those who can prove they've had it.
Think we've all invested time and too much emotion to just scrap the end of the season, would rather have a shortened 2020/21 all agreed before season kicks off.

 

[waggys left foot]

Precedent set

Think I've just heard Belgium have concluded their season, with league positions staying as they are.

Club Brugge announced champions

Doubt it -they only had one game to go -Club Brugge 15 points clear ,but relegation not absolutely clear and they normally have play offs so we shall see.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

not a chance it will be voided.All they have to do is finish this season behind closed doors.Say the end of july.Have a month off and start the new season in september.Do away with the League Cup,FA Cup and play 2 games a week if they start to fall behind.Finish the euro cups off this season and bin it for a year the same as domestic cup games.Start Normal games in 2021/22.

What about social distancing for the players? They run the same risk as having 30k in the stadium. When you say "no chance" have you seen how many sporting & leisure events for July and August have already been cancelled?

 

[The Professional]

Reverse alphabetical order seems the fairest way to decide the League for me.

 

[Sketchead]

A problem with playing behind closed doors and televising, is fans will meet up.

Maybe not at the grounds, but families/friends will visit each other to watch the matches on TV. Maybe have a drink together, bbq etc.

That's a societal problem more than a football one though. Say we're in a position where football goes ahead in July behind closed doors, but the same rules apply to us normal folk, you've got to hope people aren't stupid.

The social distancing element is obviously an issue for players if this happens but hence those wild ideas of having two 'camps' for all the players where everybody is tested and monitored constantly.

 

[Pagey]

That's a societal problem more than a football one though. Say we're in a position where football goes ahead in July behind closed doors, but the same rules apply to us normal folk, you've got to hope people aren't stupid.

The social distancing element is obviously an issue for players if this happens but hence those wild ideas of having two 'camps' for all the players where everybody is tested and monitored constantly.

Agree with you, but idiots will meet up, football will be blamed for giving them the opportunity. How many wolves fans travelled a few weeks ago, despite it being behind closed doors?

How many would turn up at stadiums, chanting outside grounds? It's happened already across Germany.

 

[1972 i began]

What about social distancing for the players? They run the same risk as having 30k in the stadium. When you say "no chance" have you seen how many sporting & leisure events for July and August have already been cancelled?

I don't think 22people playing football is the same as 30000 people coughing spluttering and spitting is the same somehow.There will be a way to test players to see if they have it OR had it in the past in the next couple of months.Look on the bright side ffs.

 

[1972 i began]

A problem with playing behind closed doors and televising, is fans will meet up.

Maybe not at the grounds, but families/friends will visit each other to watch the matches on TV. Maybe have a drink together, bbq etc.

Nothing is stopping em now if they're that way inclined.

 

[sjonnie]

I think maybe a Duckworth-Lewis type mathematical model might be the best way to close off this season's placings. I can't see us resuming games anytime soon and as more than 75% of the season's games have been played, it is probably the fairest solution. Not ideal but probably the best option if games can't be resumed before July.

 

[Monketron]

I think maybe a Duckworth-Lewis type mathematical model might be the best way to close off this season's placings. I can't see us resuming games anytime soon and as more than 75% of the season's games have been played, it is probably the fairest solution. Not ideal but probably the best option if games can't be resumed before July.

That sort of formula would probably see Wolves finish 5th and a probable Champions League place, given our run in is easier than those around us in the table. I doubt we'd ever get that lucky.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

Void it and give us an automatic place in next seasons Europa group stage

 

[rincewind]

That sort of formula would probably see Wolves finish 5th and a probable Champions League place, given our run in is easier than those around us in the table. I doubt we'd ever get that lucky.

I suspect any such system would have to ensure Man Utd finished 4th.

 

[Blast tyrant]

Get Mark Lawrenson to predict the results of the remaining games.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

I think maybe a Duckworth-Lewis type mathematical model might be the best way to close off this season's placings. I can't see us resuming games anytime soon and as more than 75% of the season's games have been played, it is probably the fairest solution. Not ideal but probably the best option if games can't be resumed before July.

What's so special/important about July? The season MUST be finished whenever. Next season can be sorted as and when. 1 thing at a time.