Summer Transfer Window 2022.

[CelebrityWolf]

It’s an accounting transaction. Fosun invested 126m into Wolves. That was carried as debt on Wolves books, which means that Fosun could probably claim a tax deduction against it, and in the event Wolves went bankrupt, they would get priority in getting that money back. They wrote it off. That means it’s now effectively an extra 126m of equity Fosun have in the club should they sell it. On their accounts, it just moves from one entry to another. For Fosun and Wolves, it’s simply an accounting transaction. There was no transfer of cash. Wolves now look slightly more attractive to a potential buyer.

It’s not the same as the example you gave. If I wrote off the tenner I lent you, I don’t get to sell you for a tenner more in the future

And lets be honest, that is the plan here. Fosun get a proper offer and they will bail 100%

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536517355584602113

If this is us then they have completely lost the plot

We just need 2 x cb, 2 x cm, 1 x cf

Anything else is a bonus .

Given the talk of limited funds, this would be a disaster if this transfer was instead of a cb or cm

 

[AndyY]

So relegation then is financial suicide.

We would have the parachute payments and would probably have to sell several players on decent wages (Neto, Jonny, Raul, Neves (if hasn’t already gone), Dendonker, Semedo). Players like MGW, Giles, Sanderson, Toti, Chiquinho, Cundle, Hoever etc would probably become important members of the squad. All in my opinion only.

 

[Rangiora Wolf]

If this is us then they have completely lost the plot

We just need 2 x cb, 2 x cm, 1 x cf

Anything else is a bonus .

Given the talk of limited funds, this would be a disaster if this transfer was instead of a cb or cm

I wouldnt worry. He wont choose us.

 

[Supadavewolf]

And in that situation, you then might be annoyed if there were nonsensical comments on the internet saying "Brockmoorwolf is a right tightwad, he didn't even buy Flump a drink the other day".

You'd be banging your head on the table saying "I know, but I said he didn't have to pay me back the £10, surely that's worth more?!", but the Flump fans would just keep saying "where's Brockmoorwolf's money going, he's creaming it off, taking money away from Flump".

Is this tenner going free?

 

[Leominster_Wolf]

Is this tenner going free?

30 mins have passed since you asked…. Come on @Flump stop faffing about….

tickety tock

 

[MattH]

30 mins have passed since you asked…. Come on @Flump stop faffing about….

tickety tock

I heard he needed to sell his gran for twice her market value first.

 

[MattH]

If this is us then they have completely lost the plot

We just need 2 x cb, 2 x cm, 1 x cf

Anything else is a bonus .

Given the talk of limited funds, this would be a disaster if this transfer was instead of a cb or cm

Depends which forwards are off. Traore out the door, Trincao leaves and I could see Podence going too. That would leave us needing more than just Neto, Hwang and MGW.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Think it's either MGW, Minamino or Guedes. 1 of 3, not all of them. And that requires Podence, Traore to go. Guess there's a fine line between having a slim squad and being paper thin?

 

[Wolf in the sun]

gggaaawwwddd this thread is depressing...

 

[5 - Lescott]

You can turn tweet notifications off for Spiers. Hes a London reporter now

 

[Chris H]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1536596892632719360

Some transfer news…

 

[Beeches wolf]

Think it's either MGW, Minamino or Guedes. 1 of 3, not all of them. And that requires Podence, Traore to go. Guess there's a fine line between having a slim squad and being paper thin?

If that's the choice, MGW for me. That keeps 17m and whatever Guedes would cost towards a CM, CB, or Striker.

 

[Flump]

Is this tenner going free?

30 mins have passed since you asked…. Come on @Flump stop faffing about….

No, I'm running my tenners in a sustainable way to safeguard the future...

 

[Dan G WWFC]

Is it just me who rates Seferovic? He's an entirely midtable premier league striker....considering we have no depth up top, I'd be fine with it

Reminds me of Luke De Jong who spent last season onloan to Barca.

Scores for fun in the Dutch league but dreadful in England and Germany. Been meh in Spain.

I think the is a reason he's so cheap.

 

[Glass ankles]

Am I the only one who quite likes the idea of Minamino? Knows the league, has goals in him, looks a tidy player and wouldn't break the bank.

 

[JOSWolf]

The reporter from the sun. I know its the sun. Jordan Davies tweeting that there will be a story in the paper today regarding Palhinha in which he indicates delays in the transfer to us as Fulham trying to hijack the deal and it seems we wont commit to buying until Neves future resolved. It is the sun of course but again points towards not being able to buy until we sell anyone.

 

[Matt]

Imagine if we lost out on Palhinha because newly-promoted Fulham have more money than us.

 

[Kebab Warrior]

The reporter from the sun. I know its the sun. Jordan Davies tweeting that there will be a story in the paper today regarding Palhinha in which he indicates delays in the transfer to us as Fulham trying to hijack the deal and it seems we wont commit to buying until Neves future resolved. It is the sun of course but again points towards not being able to buy until we sell anyone.

Or another way of reading that could be we won’t buy another expensive DM if our existing one is going to stay…
Maybe Barca don’t have the cash and he doesn’t fancy Utd.

 

[DanishWolf]

The reporter from the sun. I know its the sun. Jordan Davies tweeting that there will be a story in the paper today regarding Palhinha in which he indicates delays in the transfer to us as Fulham trying to hijack the deal and it seems we wont commit to buying until Neves future resolved. It is the sun of course but again points towards not being able to buy until we sell anyone.

Its quite disastrous if our whole transfer plan for the summer hangs on when/whether Neves is sold...

 

[DanishWolf]

Or another way of reading that could be we won’t buy another expensive DM if our existing one is going to stay…
Maybe Barca don’t have the cash and he doesn’t fancy Utd.

1) He's not going to stay. He might go late and for less money than expected, but he wouldnt stay
2) We've 2 PL midfielders if Moutinho doesnt renew. We need a good midfielder even if Neves stays.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

Or another way of reading that could be we won’t buy another expensive DM if our existing one is going to stay…
Maybe Barca don’t have the cash and he doesn’t fancy Utd.

We need a centre mid, even if neves stays!!!

If palinha isn’t signed this week you really do begin to worry.

 

[Jonzy54]

The reporter from the sun. I know its the sun. Jordan Davies tweeting that there will be a story in the paper today regarding Palhinha in which he indicates delays in the transfer to us as Fulham trying to hijack the deal and it seems we wont commit to buying until Neves future resolved. It is the sun of course but again points towards not being able to buy until we sell anyone.

I realise we won’t get the full picture until the end of the window but we get no rumours or genuine links to players ,we don’t appear to be talking to anyone .It is all heresay and gossip .Can we have any good news ?
If the Palhina news is to be believed then what ?
Fans have renewed their season tickets in good faith or should that be blind faith ?

 

[JOSWolf]

Or another way of reading that could be we won’t buy another expensive DM if our existing one is going to stay…
Maybe Barca don’t have the cash and he doesn’t fancy Utd.

Trouble is mate, who is replacing Moutinho if he doesnt sign a new deal? I'd argue even if Neves stays we need someone new to play alongside him as Moutinho wont play every game now and even Dendoncker is being linked with moves away.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

No cm leaves = 1 needed

Neves leaves = 2 needed

Neves and Moutinho leaves = 3 needed

This transfer cannot be deferred until neves is sold

 

[Kebab Warrior]

1) He's not going to stay. He might go late and for less money than expected, but he wouldnt stay
2) We've 2 PL midfielders if Moutinho doesnt renew. We need a good midfielder even if Neves stays.

1) IF it’s that certain and we want Palhinha then I can’t imagine for a second that we can’t finance the deal whilst we wait for Neves to complete
2) Again IF - I don’t understand why people are expecting us to forward buy replacements for people who might be staying. Have deals lined up yes - complete no. It’s like a house move.

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Trouble is mate, who is replacing Moutinho if he doesnt sign a new deal? I'd argue even if Neves stays we need someone new to play alongside him as Moutinho wont play every game now and even Dendoncker is being linked with moves away.

I completely agree Jos - my point is whilst you’d have those deals lined up, would you complete them before knowing for certain Moutinho & Donk ARE leaving?

 

[wolfgar]

I'm fairly confident that Palhinia will be a wolves player, and that we don't need to wait to sell Neves before we can spend anything (that would be ludicrous), but if he somehow ends up at Fulham instead of here then the meltdown is going to be an all timer. Absolutely off the scale

 

[Flump]

I realise we won’t get the full picture until the end of the window but we get no rumours or genuine links to players ,we don’t appear to be talking to anyone

Calm down, Wolves run a much less leaky ship than most clubs.

 

[wolfgar]

1) IF it’s that certain and we want Palhinha then I can’t imagine for a second that we can’t finance the deal whilst we wait for Neves to complete
2) Again IF - I don’t understand why people are expecting us to forward buy replacements for people who might be staying. Have deals lined up yes - complete no. It’s like a house move.

In Palinhia's case I would have thought he'd be worth signing whether keeping Neves or not? He's available for a fairly decent price too.

 

[DanishWolf]

1) IF it’s that certain and we want Palhinha then I can’t imagine for a second that we can’t finance the deal whilst we wait for Neves to complete
2) Again IF - I don’t understand why people are expecting us to forward buy replacements for people who might be staying. Have deals lined up yes - complete no. It’s like a house move.

It really isnt like a house move...
We're already a midfielder short. We should have some cash to spare. There really is no reason to wait until Neves departs,

 

[Matt]

Not like we're overstocked in midfield is it! We currently have Neves and Dendoncker, with a ? over Moutinho. Even if they were all to stay, we still need a midfielder! A full Portuguese international for €20m should be absolutely no problem for a club in our position, Neves or no Neves.

 

[Jonzy54]

Calm down, Wolves run a much less leaky ship than most clubs.

I am aware of that but as I and others keep saying the players report back in under 2 weeks .The squad is short and can’t score goals .I am just desperate for some action .

 

[Matt]

Also, surely having Neves' "replacement" in before we sell him strengthens our hand in any sale negotiation? If people are aware we're waiting to sell him before buying anyone, they'll just string it out until we start to panic and accept a lower fee.

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

£20M is hardly overleveraging ourselves even if the Neves deal falls through.

If it was like a £40M player or something i'd understand it a bit more but £20M should be easily achievable. Moutinho will re-sign though, easiest PR win in the world for the club, try to get another 38 games out of him knowing that the fanbase will basically never criticise him irrespective of his level of performance.

 

[Matt]

£20M is hardly overleveraging ourselves even if the Neves deal falls through.

If it was like a £40M player or something i'd understand it a bit more but £20M should be easily achievable. Moutinho will re-sign though, easiest PR win in the world for the club, try to get another 38 games out of him knowing that the fanbase will basically never criticise him irrespective of his level of performance.

Not sure about the last part, he gets loads of stick on here.

 

[freezin]

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I'll concede on this one.
What makes it worse is that I looked into it the other day... I'm blaming COVID rather than stupidity

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Not sure about the last part, he gets loads of stick on here.

Not as much as other players who perform at a similar level, but mainly the match-going fans will stick with him always (which is fair enough given his credit in the bank).

 

[lobodelsur]

The reporter from the sun. I know its the sun. Jordan Davies tweeting that there will be a story in the paper today regarding Palhinha in which he indicates delays in the transfer to us as Fulham trying to hijack the deal and it seems we wont commit to buying until Neves future resolved. It is the sun of course but again points towards not being able to buy until we sell anyone.

Only a few days ago it was reported that Fulham were going to hijack our deal for Al Musrati from Braga. Large pinches of salt required, methinks.

 

[freezin]

And Giles too. Dion Sanderson follows him on Twitter but has a different agent.

Bassey and Max Kilman went to the same futsal academy.

It's all just info, who knows what it all means. But, the photo was definitely of our training ground.

I'm pretty sure Max has never played Futsal.
If he had I'm sure someone would have mentioned it by now, but nothing.
Even in TV commentary you'd think it would get a mention but not a sausage. Unless of course I've missed it in their avalanche of Max Kilman anecdotes.