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As soon as someone works out that if you put someone with lightening pace together with Neves you'll get into Europe as a minimum he'll be off.
 
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wolfslair said:
Good!!!

We need a proper football man in! Him promoting and then keeping sellers in a job and facilitating us getting into the state we were in shows while he is a nice bloke, football isn’t for him.
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He did, eventually, realise his mistake; and we are currently about to experience our longest stay in the top flight since the 67-77 era which means this is the most successful period for Wolves in the lifetime of anyone under 45.

I know, he’s marmite but in some respects I would be worried that a new person wouldn’t necessarily be an improvement. There are so many examples where fans ask for change and they start shouting about the results of the change.
 
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Northampton_wolf said:
Neves -

Goes to arsenal if they dont get rice

Put most likely places for him right now are

United - Juventus
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Got a feeling United will push hard for him and possibly Liverpool he would fit right in there but genuinely hope he goes abroad
Juve would be ideal with the slower tempo of Italian football
 
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Black Country Wanderer said:
Got a feeling United will push hard for him and possibly Liverpool he would fit right in there but genuinely hope he goes abroad
Juve would be ideal with the slower tempo of Italian football
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The problem with going abroad for a deal is we probably rely on mendes doing it......if we want proper money the premier league is the place to sell him to.....

I get the feeling Neves may not be priority on say man utd, Liverpool, arsenal or say Newcastle list but I reckon he will be on them all ..... realistically we are only getting big money from them....
 
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wolfslair said:
Good!!!

We need a proper football man in! Him promoting and then keeping sellers in a job and facilitating us getting into the state we were in shows while he is a nice bloke, football isn’t for him.
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Football isn’t for him?? Jeff has done a brilliant job here, his successes far outweigh the couple of mistakes he made.

Under his stewardship we went from mid table in the Championship to 2 consecutive 7th place finishes in the Premier League, an FA Cup Semi Final and a Europa League Quarter Final.

He made a mistake with Lage and Sellars but he rectified it with getting Julen and promoting Hobbs.

Cannot believe how short sighted and ungrateful people can be sometimes.
 
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Northampton_wolf said:
liverpool may come in for neves if they get top 4
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Liverpool would make the obvious choice with pep ljinders and Jota being there ....as you say no champions league might make man utd more favourable to Neves and his dreams ...

Liverpool do seem to have an interest in Ugarte ....it may be paper talk but it may also be negotiations with Mendes.....Neves or Ugarte......I want Ugarte to Neves so it may be better if Neves goes to Liverpool
 
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Real Madrid not renewing Mariano Diaz's contract. We were linked in January.

Would improve our striker options and there's a lot of value in free transfers!
 
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Superted said:
Have I missed something here then? I don't recall seeing anything about this I'd have thought more would have been made of it.

Not saying you're wrong but I just didn't know.
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Lucas Moura airs right-wing views and compares communism to Nazism

Tottenham winger Lucas Moura has described himself as a "right-wing conservative" after throwing his support behind controversial Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro. Brazil's presidential elections will take place next month, with Bolsonaro aiming to win a second term in office. The 67-year-old is...
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Does Alex Scott work on the left in a midfield 3?

Scott - Lemina - Nunes
 
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Northampton_wolf said:
JLS tactic of years was 4-3-3

id be interested if over summer he drills it and focuses on that, then we have players to fit into it

Or we proceed with 4-4-2
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If you look at our average positions over the last few games, some games it's more like a narrow 4-4-1-1, with our wider attacking midfielders tucking in, but some are more like a slightly lop-sided 4-3-3, with the left sided attacking midfielder pushing right on and Nunes tucking in narrow in the right as a third central midfielder.

I really like this starting 4-4-2 (or 4-2-2-2!), as it's really adaptable in games and can morph into a 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 quite easily, without really changing the positions of the players around. All they are doing is adapting their roles according the the games.

I really like Nunes in this right sided attacking midfield role. And I'm really starting to like the look of Neto in the left sided role.
 
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WolfLing said:
If you look at our average positions over the last few games, some games it's more like a narrow 4-4-1-1, with our wider attacking midfielders tucking in, but some are more like a slightly lop-sided 4-3-3, with the left sided attacking midfielder pushing right on and Nunes tucking in narrow in the right as a third central midfielder.

I really like this starting 4-4-2 (or 4-2-2-2!), as it's really adaptable in games and can morph into a 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 quite easily, without really changing the positions of the players around. All they are doing is adapting their roles according the the games.

I really like Nunes in this right sided attacking midfield role. And I'm really starting to like the look of Neto in the left sided role.
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Neto should always be playing on the left so im glad this has been adopted
 
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WolfLing said:
If you look at our average positions over the last few games, some games it's more like a narrow 4-4-1-1, with our wider attacking midfielders tucking in, but some are more like a slightly lop-sided 4-3-3, with the left sided attacking midfielder pushing right on and Nunes tucking in narrow in the right as a third central midfielder.

I really like this starting 4-4-2 (or 4-2-2-2!), as it's really adaptable in games and can morph into a 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 quite easily, without really changing the positions of the players around. All they are doing is adapting their roles according the the games.

I really like Nunes in this right sided attacking midfield role. And I'm really starting to like the look of Neto in the left sided role.
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V Villa it often looked like 4141 , which was odd to see Neves pressing alongside Cunha..
 
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Lucas Moura airs right-wing views and compares communism to Nazism

Tottenham winger Lucas Moura has described himself as a "right-wing conservative" after throwing his support behind controversial Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro. Brazil's presidential elections will take place next month, with Bolsonaro aiming to win a second term in office. The 67-year-old is...
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That's interesting, and I'm wary of getting into dangerous territory but I'm not sure those comments are quite what they're made out to be.

Ok, he's admitted that his political views are right wing conservative, which is a concern but that doesn't automatically make him a racist, homophobe, sexist or anything else. He's expressed an extreme dislike of socialism and communism (which at the end of the day is an extreme form of socialism) and questioned whether there are any successful communist regimes (a legitimate question I suppose). Ok, to make the Nazi comparison is misguided but Nazism was borne out of a socialist political party and there are communist elements to Nazism/fascism.

In terms of Bolsonaro being "the closest to his beliefs", if I recall the Bolsonaro vs. Lula election was a completely polarising, two horse race so I guess, if you're a right wing conservative who hates socialism then Bolsonaro was always going to be your preferred candidate over a left wing socialist candidate like Lula. He's stated that there wasn't an ideal candidate and he hasn't actually "supported", endorsed or championed Bolsonaro or attempted to excuse his behaviour.

We might not agree with his views but in my humble opinion, based on what I've read, it's a bit disingenuous of the newspaper (who'd have thought it?) to suggest that he is some kind of extreme far-right lunatic.

I'm not looking to start any form of political debate here by the way and I'm aware any such further discussion belongs on the OT forum so I'll just leave this here as is.
 
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Northampton_wolf said:
JLS tactic of years was 4-3-3

id be interested if over summer he drills it and focuses on that, then we have players to fit into it

Or we proceed with 4-4-2
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The main problem with 4-3-3 is where does Cunha fit? He's not a CF or a winger, but in Julen's version of a 4-3-3 the wide players aren't conventional wingers, they're usually inverted forwards (e.g. Suso and Ocampos) so I could imagine him playing off the left of the CF.

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Superted said:
That's interesting, and I'm wary of getting into dangerous territory but I'm not sure those comments are quite what they're made out to be.

Ok, he's admitted that his political views are right wing conservative, which is a concern but that doesn't automatically make him a racist, homophobe, sexist or anything else. He's expressed an extreme dislike of socialism and communism (which at the end of the day is an extreme form of socialism) and questioned whether there are any successful communist regimes (a legitimate question I suppose). Ok, to make the Nazi comparison is misguided but Nazism was borne out of a socialist political party and there are communist elements to Nazism/fascism.

In terms of Bolsonaro being "the closest to his beliefs", if I recall the Bolsonaro vs. Lula election was a completely polarising, two horse race so I guess, if you're a right wing conservative who hates socialism then Bolsonaro was always going to be your preferred candidate over a left wing socialist candidate like Lula. He's stated that there wasn't an ideal candidate and he hasn't actually "supported", endorsed or championed Bolsonaro or attempted to excuse his behaviour.

We might not agree with his views but in my humble opinion, based on what I've read, it's a bit disingenuous of the newspaper (who'd have thought it?) to suggest that he is some kind of extreme far-right lunatic.

I'm not looking to start any form of political debate here by the way and I'm aware any such further discussion belongs on the OT forum so I'll just leave this here as is.
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Re your last para l absolutely agree which is why l posted the link that l did and not some of the other stuff out there....
 
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Superted said:
That's interesting, and I'm wary of getting into dangerous territory but I'm not sure those comments are quite what they're made out to be.

Ok, he's admitted that his political views are right wing conservative, which is a concern but that doesn't automatically make him a racist, homophobe, sexist or anything else. He's expressed an extreme dislike of socialism and communism (which at the end of the day is an extreme form of socialism) and questioned whether there are any successful communist regimes (a legitimate question I suppose). Ok, to make the Nazi comparison is misguided but Nazism was borne out of a socialist political party and there are communist elements to Nazism/fascism.

In terms of Bolsonaro being "the closest to his beliefs", if I recall the Bolsonaro vs. Lula election was a completely polarising, two horse race so I guess, if you're a right wing conservative who hates socialism then Bolsonaro was always going to be your preferred candidate over a left wing socialist candidate like Lula. He's stated that there wasn't an ideal candidate and he hasn't actually "supported", endorsed or championed Bolsonaro or attempted to excuse his behaviour.

We might not agree with his views but in my humble opinion, based on what I've read, it's a bit disingenuous of the newspaper (who'd have thought it?) to suggest that he is some kind of extreme far-right lunatic.

I'm not looking to start any form of political debate here by the way and I'm aware any such further discussion belongs on the OT forum so I'll just leave this here as is.
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Yes, I think if anyone (as some have already started doing) are going to say no because of the political views quoted in that Mirror article, then I think they need to stop and read them again. If they still think no, purely based on that, then the idea of separating sport from politics is clearly a long way from their minds.
 
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Sussex Wolf said:
Yes, I think if anyone (as some have already started doing) are going to say no because of the political views quoted in that Mirror article, then I think they need to stop and read them again. If they still think no, purely based on that, then the idea of separating sport from politics is clearly a long way from their minds.
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Re your last sentence, there are limits to how much that you can separate sport and politics. I am proud of the stance that Stan Cullis took with respect to a certain salute at a pre-war international in Berlin. I really didn't like the political views - explicitly Fascist - expressed by Paolo Di Canio and therefore wouldn't have wanted him at Wolves.
 
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Northampton_wolf said:
liverpool may come in for neves if they get top 4
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I am really divided on Neves. Yes, he's a top player, but is he really going to be the top target for a lot of clubs this season?

In some ways, the Wolves team has evolved around him. He is unlikely to get that at a bigger team and is he suited to a midfield that someone like Klopp wants to play?

I can possibly see him in Serie A where there is a little more time on the ball, but PL teams don't want deep lying playmakers, they want players who are going to carry and battle. Neves can do this, but his strengths lie in the Pirlo role.

He would improve most teams, but I'm not sure clubs would be putting him top of the shopping list for this reason.
 
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Axle said:
I am really divided on Neves. Yes, he's a top player, but is he really going to be the top target for a lot of clubs this season?

In some ways, the Wolves team has evolved around him. He is unlikely to get that at a bigger team and is he suited to a midfield that someone like Klopp wants to play?

I can possibly see him in Serie A where there is a little more time on the ball, but PL teams don't want deep lying playmakers, they want players who are going to carry and battle. Neves can do this, but his strengths lie in the Pirlo role.

He would improve most teams, but I'm not sure clubs would be putting him top of the shopping list for this reason.
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Don't think many disagree with this really....he probably isn't top of Liverpool or say man utd list of targets........but both teams especially Liverpool have major problems in midfield.... Liverpool probably need 3 in all honesty.....they ain't gonna spend 70/80m on every target ......in terms of 30/40m Neves is probably as guaranteed safe signing as anybody out there.....

He improves both teams squad options massively for relatively low fee in comparison to other midfielders...there will be massive interest because of his contract situation .....
 
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WolfLing said:
The classic Christmas tree!!
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To be fair if we end up playing like Sevilla with the fullbacks pushing on and one of the midfielders sitting slightly deeper I think it would look more like this in possession:

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Let's call it the diamond :D

I think that would require a quicker centre-back than Dawson though...
 
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We know how good Neves is, I just don't think he is is held in the same esteem by other clubs that are at a level that would Be attractive to him as a step up. I fear to say this but I can see clubs either waiting a year or putting a lo-ball bid in next January.
 
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