SIGNED: Matheus Cunha (Athletico Madrid)

[Wagstaffe Was Magic]

Genuine question!

We’re struggling to score goals, in particular we’re struggling for a striker to score goals. We decide to spend £43m on Cunha.
Why?

 

[Golden Arrow]

Genuine question!

We’re struggling to score goals, in particular we’re struggling for a striker to score goals. We decide to spend £43m on Cunha.
Why?

I can't answer the question to be brutally honest but JLwanted him.
Be interested to know what his current market value is right now.

 

[Ironfistedmonk]

Genuine question!

We’re struggling to score goals, in particular we’re struggling for a striker to score goals. We decide to spend £43m on Cunha.
Why?

Mendes carousel

The guy couldn't get in the Madrid team, there's no way we should be paying £40 mill for an out of favour player, just like there was no reason to pay £35mill for a kid, or £30mill plus for a right back

 

[Brian Law’s buses]

Genuine question!

We’re struggling to score goals, in particular we’re struggling for a striker to score goals. We decide to spend £43m on Cunha.
Why?

I just hope he is part of the Lopetegui jigsaw, and when more pieces are put together we will see the best of Cunha. He certainly is not a centre forward but hoping he will play off a forward and link play, we will see.

 

[Matt]

Mendes carousel

The guy couldn't get in the Madrid team, there's no way we should be paying £40 mill for an out of favour player, just like there was no reason to pay £35mill for a kid, or £30mill plus for a right back

His agents are “Bertolucci Sports”, are they linked to Gestifute? Genuine question.

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

I can't answer the question to be brutally honest but JLwanted him.
Be interested to know what his current market value is right now.

I'm guessing less than £43m.

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

Some of the comments here are laughable.

Cunha is class and was linked with teams way above us.

Put a better squad around him and he’ll be a star.

 

[Golden Arrow]

I think this is

Some of the comments here are laughable.

Cunha is class and was linked with teams way above us.

Put a better squad around him and he’ll be a star.

I think that's the issue.
Let's hope the matters addressed during the summer.

 

[Matt]

Some of the comments here are laughable.

Cunha is class and was linked with teams way above us.

Put a better squad around him and he’ll be a star.

Was he? I thought it was between us, Leeds and Everton?

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

Was he? I thought it was between us, Leeds and Everton?

Man U were interested

 

[djmikeydickens]

Play him with someone more mobile up top and he'll look decent. He definitely has ability. Pre injury Raul and Cunha would of been class

 

[Beijing Wolf]

Some of the comments here are laughable.

Cunha is class and was linked with teams way above us.

Put a better squad around him and he’ll be a star.

This!

I think we saw glimpses of Cunha’s true ability in the Villa match where he went on 2 brilliant runs, both times going past multiple Villa players.

Put him with a more mobile CF and I think we will reap the benefits.

 

[ombyman]

This was just too much to resist.

(my honest view is that the fees paid possibly arent real, inflated somehow and for some reason)

 

[Surrey Wolf]

Really good player but we got ****ed in the **** with the transfer fee

 

[Matt]

Man U were interested

In January? I don’t remember seeing that, maybe previously?

 

[Starsky]

As part of the carousel, Benfica should be sending us some of the Enzo Fernandez monies for Guedes this Summer. That's how it works,right, when one of the associated clubs needs cash?

 

[Evthewolf]

Some of the comments here are laughable.

Cunha is class and was linked with teams way above us.

Put a better squad around him and he’ll be a star.

If that is the case (which I think it probably is), then you can see why JL has reacted the way he has.

It’s more than plausible that JL had a clear vision of what is required from his perspective. Possible that he had players in mind but couldn’t get them all in January, either due to money or club not prepared to release until end of season.

If he was promised that money would be there, as and when, only to find, that now it isn’t, he has effectively been sold short and left at “halfway house”.

If he had known the situation was going to arise, in January, he may well have spent the money differently. For example, Cunha may not have been where the bulk of the money went, knowing that he would not be as effective without the other players he had in mind. Only surmising but may not be far off the mark.

 

[Plastic Shrapnel]

Cunha was played out of position for most of his time.

As soon as he shifted to that 10 style position, running from deeper, he looked way more of a player.

 

[Wagstaffe Was Magic]

Cunha was played out of position for most of his time.

As soon as he shifted to that 10 style position, running from deeper, he looked way more of a player.

Fair enough, but it’s a goal scorer we need so badly.

 

[Mugwump]

I think its clear he presses really well from the front and drives forward well. I still think Lopetegui's theory was we werent creating enough and Cunha would help fix that. He did it to a point but not enough.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

I think its clear he presses really well from the front and drives forward well. I still think Lopetegui's theory was we werent creating enough and Cunha would help fix that. He did it to a point but not enough.

Cunha plays well with other forward to compliment him like Costa. Guess that with be Sasa or Fabio

 

[SA Wolf]

Man U were interested

But clearly didn't make an attempt to sign him, otherwise he wouldn't be at Wolves. Paper/media talk doesn't always equate to genuine interest.

 

[JohnB]

I think its clear he presses really well from the front and drives forward well. I still think Lopetegui's theory was we werent creating enough and Cunha would help fix that. He did it to a point but not enough.

He started well when there were strikers - Hwang goal at Liverpool and Raul goal at Forest in cups. My view is he’ll be fine with the right pairing.

Not clear to me which striker we need but it is a mobile striker who can win and hold the ball, play 1-2s, and makes runs into 6 yard box.

Silva if he has learnt how to win/hold up ball. Sasa if fit and is mobile enough with a good touch.
Gyorkes if we can afford him.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

But clearly didn't make an attempt to sign him, otherwise he wouldn't be at Wolves. Paper/media talk doesn't always equate to genuine interest.

If we was to sell Cunha would we get €50m for him? Probably €30 at the most Jorge ripped us again

 

[SA Wolf]

If that is the case (which I think it probably is), then you can see why JL has reacted the way he has.

It’s more than plausible that JL had a clear vision of what is required from his perspective. Possible that he had players in mind but couldn’t get them all in January, either due to money or club not prepared to release until end of season.

If he was promised that money would be there, as and when, only to find, that now it isn’t, he has effectively been sold short and left at “halfway house”.

If he had known the situation was going to arise, in January, he may well have spent the money differently. For example, Cunha may not have been where the bulk of the money went, knowing that he would not be as effective without the other players he had in mind. Only surmising but may not be far off the mark.

I think this is very fair comment and something I hadn't considered. As you say, perhaps Loppy saw Cunha as part of his overall vision and could get him when he did, but others weren't available at that point. Now, his vision is different and perhaps Cunha isn't part of the changed picture! Interesting!

 

[stever]

If we was to sell Cunha would we get €50m for him? Probably €30 at the most Jorge ripped us again

Don't think we would sell him. I like him and he has a good attitude, seems like he loves the fans and playing for us

 

[Wignall 3-0]

We have to keep him to see if he comes good. But for me, sadly, this "striker" does not score goals.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Don't think we would sell him. I like him and he has a good attitude, seems like he loves the fans and playing for us

Just an example of how we overpaid again for Mendes client that we won’t see a penny profit on…

 

[OLDGOLD]

Just an example of how we overpaid again for Mendes client that we won’t see a penny profit on…

Don't think he is a Mendes client though is he..?

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Don't think he is a Mendes client though is he..?

No https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matheus-cunha/profil/spieler/517894

Says his value is £30m yet we paid £45m ?? I’m sure Jorge was involved brokering the deal just like others who he’s not the agent of many fingers in many pies too much influence on the club for his own benefit. Now the ffp issue we are seeing the downside to this??

Cunha 1 goal the same contribution as Costa who cost £0.00. Hopefully we see better return next season

 

[Plastic Shrapnel]

Says his value is £30m yet we paid £45m ??

Transfermarkt valuations are always based closer to reality, not the valuation that football clubs spend.

 

[Yorkshire Wolf]

No https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matheus-cunha/profil/spieler/517894

Says his value is £30m yet we paid £45m ?? I’m sure Jorge was involved brokering the deal just like others who he’s not the agent of many fingers in many pies too much influence on the club for his own benefit. Now the ffp issue we are seeing the downside to this??

Cunha 1 goal the same contribution as Costa who cost £0.00. Hopefully we see better return next season

Inflation that mate

 

[SmiffyWolf]

Really good player but we got ****ed in the **** with the transfer fee

There is becoming a theme here with various transfers with us and fees . Cunha , Fabio, Nunes . High fees and little end product .

 

[VancouverWolf]

Some of the comments here are laughable.

Cunha is class and was linked with teams way above us.

Put a better squad around him and he’ll be a star.

I agree…….any player, from any club, would look bad playing for Wolves last season.

 

[WickedWolfie]

If we was to sell Cunha would we get €50m for him? Probably €30 at the most Jorge ripped us again

You reckon that we will drop 49,999,970 euro?

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

There is becoming a theme here with various transfers with us and fees . Cunha , Fabio, Nunes . High fees and little end product .

Time for new transfer strategy

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

Genuine question!

We’re struggling to score goals, in particular we’re struggling for a striker to score goals. We decide to spend £43m on Cunha.
Why?

Because he was the one guy Lopetegui wanted and he needed to be backed.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

Transfermarkt valuations are always based closer to reality, not the valuation that football clubs spend.

No, this is a distortion of the definition of reality! The reality is that he was not available for that price. That valuation is a speculation of what his cost will be. The reality is what the seller was prepared to accept and what the buyer is prepared to pay. There is no objective "value" of a player in a free market. It is not a computer game.

 

[Ponty]

Guedes record for a poorer team is much better and he is hardly setting the world alight.

2017–2018	→ Valencia (loan)	33	(5)
2018–2022	Valencia	113	(23)

Obviously goals per game isn't everything but I'm struggling to see why people are so excited by Cunha.

Always one

I’m still struggling to see a player worth half what we paid!

 

[Ironfistedmonk]

His agents are “Bertolucci Sports”, are they linked to Gestifute? Genuine question.

Athletico are part of the Mendes network, as are all the other clubs we have overpaid for players recently, I'm still waiting for the favour to be returned