Semedo situation

[SA Wolf]

When he first arrived, he was generally poor both defensively and from an attacking perspective and was called out for it. No 'agenda' and no 'scapegoating'. His form was patchy up until last season, when he seemed to click and become more consistent. Defensively, he is much better and not so prone to the errors that bedeviled him earlier on, such as giving away penalties and falling asleep at the back post. Going forwards, he's still not 'prime Doc', but he certainly gets us up the field with speed.
Much more consistent, as I said in the Verdict Thread and as such, I'd be trying to extend his contract and keep.

 

[SA Wolf]

Sell for me, operating model means the club needs to buy low and sell high and summer is likely to be top of the market for him

Unfortunately, we didn't buy 'low' on Semedo. £28m plus £9m add ons, for a full back was expensive and with a depreciating market, we might struggle to make money on him. I'd keep him.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Unfortunately, we didn't buy 'low' on Semedo. £28m plus £9m add ons, for a full back was expensive and with a depreciating market, we might struggle to make money on him. I'd keep him.

True but in truth we'd be looking at the profit on his depreciated value (i.e. what figure FSP considers) not his initial acquisition cost. Personally l'd much rather keep him but.....

 

[bigwolf]

I don't get this love in for semedo.

He played well yesterday against a team that an under 5's would probably beat but in the main he has been average at best for most of the season.

He defending is average at best and his attacking threat is non existent.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I don't get this love in for semedo.

He played well yesterday against a team that an under 5's would probably beat but in the main he has been average at best for most of the season.

He defending is average at best and his attacking threat is non existent.

Methinks that you have been watching a different team to me.

 

[WolvesinBrum]

I've gone for keeping Nelson but we didn't turnover that first Nuno team steadily enough and I ended up thinking we'd get relegated because of it.

What the club has got now is some nous about building a new team, which should serve us well.

 

[Sammy Chungs Tracksuit]

I've been very critical of Semedo in the past bur credit where credit is due. He is massively improved under GON.

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

I don't get this love in for semedo.

He played well yesterday against a team that an under 5's would probably beat but in the main he has been average at best for most of the season.

He defending is average at best and his attacking threat is non existent.

Lol hes been probably the most consistently good player we have this season

 

[WolfLing]

As good as he has been (and he has been bloody good), he's probably one of the more replaceable players.

That said, I can't see us getting more than £15m for him and we'd need to spend that on a replacement.

It depends what Fosun's attitude is. If they want to bring players on and sell them when their stock is at it's highest, now is the time.

Yeah, absolutely. He's been the most consistent he's been for all of his Wolves career this season. But that doesn't distract from the fact that he's 31 at the end of the year, and has 1 year left on his deal in the summer.

With that in mind, his stock might be highest after this season, but the price we could get for him probably isn't based on his remaining contract length.

The options are you either tie him up for the remainder of his top level career (new 3/4 year deal), then he leaves for nothing at the end of it. Or you sell for around £10-15m this summer and look to replace.

I don't think there's a wrong option here. Both have their pros and cons.

Nelson has earned the right to choose really. If he's happy to stay and sign a new deal while he's playing the best football of his Wolves career, there's really no pressure to sell for the amount it will bring in and the cost of a replacement that might be worse.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Methinks that you have been watching a different team to me.

It takes longer for some to escape from under the burden of their biases, others never make it.

 

[fleck1]

I don't get this love in for semedo.

He played well yesterday against a team that an under 5's would probably beat but in the main he has been average at best for most of the season.

He defending is average at best and his attacking threat is non existent.

Surely this is a fishing trip

 

[Werewolf of Wombourne]

I don't see any point in selling him at this point. As has been said, this is the best season of his career as a Wolves player. there's no way we could sell him for enough to a) be able to buy a replacement as least as good and b) have any left over for other positions on the pitch. We may as well keep him and get the best out of him until he's not capable of playing at the top level any more.

Not every player has to be sold, sometimes you can get more value by keeping them

 

[Bryce]

I've been very critical of Semedo in the past bur credit where credit is due. He is massively improved under GON.

It’s this got me too

 

[Timberwolf]

At 30/31, he’s playing as well, if not his best form for us since he signed. For the sake of another year or two, it’d save us shelling out multi-millions to buy someone half as quick and not as good.

 

[Timberwolf]

I don't get this love in for semedo.

He played well yesterday against a team that an under 5's would probably beat but in the main he has been average at best for most of the season.

He defending is average at best and his attacking threat is non existent.

There’s always one…!

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Surely this is a fishing trip

Bleak snatching on the cut?

 

[Timberwolf]

It takes longer for some to escape from under the burden of their biases, others never make it.

Thank you very much. Another diamond for my quote scrapbook.

 

[Wignall 3-0]

Much improved under GON, but have voted to sell at the end of this season. We might get £10 million for him? If so he owes us nothing.
Use the money to buy a younger replacement.

 

[Sammy Chungs Tracksuit]

Never mind Semedo its Ait Nouri that we need to hold on to. Absolute class player.

 

[Miniwolf]

Gone for extend. Seems very settled in the area and playing well. Another important cog in the team for me, not just with how we are playing but an experienced head for the younger lads. Ideally a young rb to learn and rotate with him over next season.

 

[Glow69]

Experience is needed. Can't be shipping everyone off.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Experience is needed. Can't be shipping everyone off.

Worth trying to give him a new deal

 

[sillytuna]

I don't get this love in for semedo.

He played well yesterday against a team that an under 5's would probably beat but in the main he has been average at best for most of the season.

He defending is average at best and his attacking threat is non existent.

I agree that his direct threat is awful but he's contributing well in getting us up the pitch quickly and he doesn't lose the ball easily. Defensively he's generally good unless the ball is in the air. Teams have stopped doing this far post routine successfully which catches him out which could be down to them or us, I don't know.

Not much of a footballing brain, more of an athlete with good ball control and apt to the odd brain fart.

If we did sell it can only be if there's a good replacement otherwise it's for financial reasons (which we don't need if Neto goes) and will be to the detriment of the team.

 

[Polish Wolf]

Premier League quality. Up there with the best in 1v1 defending. Great engine to move back and on forward. Good ball control.

On the other hand too wasteful in the final third and prone to an odd positioning or tactical mistake. However, the biggest difference this season is that he visibly improved in both aspects.

He is as good a right (wing) back as we can get in his prime.

We're not going to get anyone better so we should keep him. At the same time find a young, talented right back for cover.

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Thank you very much. Another diamond for my quote scrapbook.

Thank you mate, I'm full of 'em you know, or as my wife puts it, "you're full of it".

 

[Mugwump]

I've been a big fan of his since day one and never jumped on the anti Semedo bandwagon, but i'd still sell him if we get a good offer.

 

[Pengwern]

Needs a 3-year contract as he’s fit

 

[Minimalist]

Yeah, absolutely. He's been the most consistent he's been for all of his Wolves career this season. But that doesn't distract from the fact that he's 31 at the end of the year, and has 1 year left on his deal in the summer.

With that in mind, his stock might be highest after this season, but the price we could get for him probably isn't based on his remaining contract length.

The options are you either tie him up for the remainder of his top level career (new 3/4 year deal), then he leaves for nothing at the end of it. Or you sell for around £10-15m this summer and look to replace.

I don't think there's a wrong option here. Both have their pros and cons.

Nelson has earned the right to choose really. If he's happy to stay and sign a new deal while he's playing the best football of his Wolves career, there's really no pressure to sell for the amount it will bring in and the cost of a replacement that might be worse.

It’s not about the quality of the player, but more about his age and relatively high wage. If you could sell for £15m this summer I expect we would.
Ideally I’d hope he signed a one year extension; but I’m not sure he’d go for that, players over 30 tend to be more concerned with length of contract as much as wage.
Don’t think it would be wise to give him 4 years.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

For me he’s a player we shouldn’t try and sell, at his age the return on investment has gone, so might as well extend his contract until he’s at an age he’s no longer performing and release him on a free.

 

[WolvesinBrum]

I guess it's also worth thinking about Lembikisa's development (even Hoever?) and Doc still having two years left.

Nelson can definitely be a fine mentor for the younger guys coming through.

 

[Plovdiv Wolf]

I guess it's also worth thinking about Lembikisa's development (even Hoever?) and Doc still having two years left.

Nelson can definitely be a fine mentor for the younger guys coming through.

Lembikisa impressing. Scottish league