Matheus Nunes

[Glow69]

You havent been vindicated. The club has just changed their policy. The risk averse approach of January was a major mistake, and this change of course is, at least partly, an acknowledgement of that. The fans who have been vindicated are the ones who were critical.

 

[wwbug]

When is he due back by the way?

About 4 weeks isnt it.

 

[Andy]

No, he’s using the spending as justification (‘vindication’) for the ****ty attitudes. As if by some incredulous means, Fosun were influenced by man-babies on Molineux Mix.

The concerns were justified, and I'm happy everyone else's blind faith has been vindicated.

 

[Supadavewolf]

But something has changed at Fosun.
We have been on the simmering plate , where we have stood for three years, and now we are moving on to the boiling plate.

Reference to 'simmering' and 'boiling'?

Are you suggesting Doris worked her magic when Guo and Uncle Jorge were here

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

You havent been vindicated. The club has just changed their policy. The risk averse approach of January was a major mistake, and this change of course is, at least partly, an acknowledgement of that. The fans who have been vindicated are the ones who were critical.

Vindicated now means being proved wrong does it? I must have missed that revision of the dictionary.

FFS, own your reactionary, emotionally unhinged outbursts of stupidity.

 

[arctic rime]

Trust the Happy clappers & the Itk’s!

 

[Supadavewolf]

Vindicated now means being proved wrong does it? I must have missed that revision of the dictionary.

FFS, own your reactionary, emotionally unhinged outbursts of stupidity.

Still sitting on the fence, eh, Bill?

 

[wolfslair]

No, he’s using the spending as justification (‘vindication’) for the ****ty attitudes. As if by some incredulous means, Fosun were influenced by man-babies on Molineux Mix.

Or maybe, people with actually influence and sway within fosun like Guo saw there might be issues and got uncle Jorge involved as those at the club weren’t producing results in the transfer market?

It is very telling how quickly we went from only making the great signing of Colins to getting Guedes and Nunes both mendes clients after Guo visited in a matter of weeks.

Remember that we were told they needed to find and use other people to get players, they tried, little results shown and the uncle Jorge phone rang and hey presto and very speedily we land two top tier players that sellers couldn’t have sorted in a million years without Jorge mendes being involved like the majority of our major player signings since fosun bought us.

I am glad someone saw sense and got mendes involved…..

 

[Timberwolf]

You are the one who, as you so charmingly put it, should be eating ****.

A welcome change of course, especially with the threat of the new financial restrictions hanging over clubs like Wolves. But please leave out the revisionist repainting of the very recent past.

Leave out the revisionist, repainting of hypothetical, guesswork and group hysteria, and now gaslighting on social media? Why should I, it’s fun.
You were wrong. End of.

 

[Mutchy]

Lol…I’m just trying to get my revenge digs in before I get a message from the mods.
Which would be ironic as they were quite happy to allow all the anti-club/Fosun/Jeff posts to remain unmoderated.

Now a true story reply to this would be that I came under attack via PM on Sunday because apparently I don't allow anything negative to be said about the club or those who run it...
Ideally everyone should play nicely and just enjoy the moment.

 

[marrs-guitar]

The real "change of policy" is that we've simply gone back to recruiting from where Mendes has influence and been prepared to put up the cash.

In essence, a return to 2017-19.

Last summer we were largely trying for players in France with no Mendes connection and had a dose of reality in the sense that players with zero connection to us or our helpful agent in those markets aren't quite so keen to jump at the first chance of an offer from us.

What we do not know is why the return has occurred.

A more favourable geopolitical situation? A new investor is being primed behind the scenes? Or the hierarchy simply came to the obvious conclusion that just swapping the more cautious Nuno for the supposed attacking football specialist Lage wasn't enough to "unleash" the believed attacking potential?

I do wonder what may have happened had we simply won our first two games in style, with a fit Jimenez firing them in.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Course they’ve changed their policy. Those of us with some patience have been rewarded.
Those who have been critical have been rewarded.

Like the ones who have outright accused the club of misleading the fans that they tried to sign Botman and Sanches

Like the ones who have accused Fosun of having lost interest, of taking money out of the club

Like the ones who have continue to claim everybody in any position at the club is an incompetent

Vindictated my ****

I dont agree with the hysterical stuff.

But it is clear that Fosun have realised that a cautious approach leaves the club open to drastic changes of fortune, as evinced by the closing three months of last season. There is an inherent volatility to the Premier league, and it is all too easy to get on the wrong side of momentuum. Rational critique of Fosun's approach has been calling for precisely developments of the last few weeks, so in what way are we not vindicated??

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

It would be very sad if this extremely happy (please God) moment was spoiled in a spat between the 'faithful' and the 'doubters'.

People were entitled to think Fosun had stopped investing (since that's what they told us), now let's all celebrate that they have returned to pushing for the top, and of course that Mendes is still there to make it happen.

It's a sunny day in Wolverhampton (whatever the weather). Let's all be friends today!

 

[Timberwolf]

The concerns were justified, and I'm happy everyone else's blind faith has been vindicated.

The concerns as you put it are opinions and everyone has a right to them. That is not what this is about. It’s about the muppets that used these to set out on a vicious agenda.

 

[Timberwolf]

Now a true story reply to this would be that I came under attack via PM on Sunday because apparently I don't allow anything negative to be said about the club or those who run it...
Ideally everyone should play nicely and just enjoy the moment.

Love you Mutchy

 

[WolfLing]

no, he's right, the club clearly changed direction.

I'd maybe proceed with this view with some cautious optimism.

Yes, Nunes will take our net spend to about £85m.

But the window is still very open!

We don't yet know if this spending will be offset with some big departures and the only thing that's changed is 'sell to buy' has become 'buy then sell'.

Hopefully not, but it could still happen.

 

[Wolf616]

On a serious note, anyone got eyes on Compton?

Sorry I can't climb the tree again with my umbrella in hand

 

[wolvesjoe]

Vindicated now means being proved wrong does it? I must have missed that revision of the dictionary.

FFS, own your reactionary, emotionally unhinged outbursts of stupidity.

Fosun have switched strategy to what critics have been calling for. I believe that is what the lawyers call undisputed facts.

So how is that not a vindication?

 

[Loojay]

Believe me wolvesjoe, they didn't change their policy because you moaned on the forum, they changed their policy because circumstances have clearly changed.

 

[Lobo de Ouro]

But we still need a ****ing striker. Great having quality in 85% of the pitch but we need to score
On Saturday if Mitrovic had knocked in the pen , there was no way we would have scored twice …. Let alone once !

We do need a striker, and we will get one.

Would you have rather we panic bought someone like Mitrovic for circa £30m before the season started, or wait for much better? ...So many people claimed he was the answer, yet he lumbered around the pitch, doing **** all the entire match except miss a penalty.

Would you rather we had bought in Palinha instead of Nunes? Could have got him in much earlier... and the huge downgrade in ability would be totally worth it, right?

Not to mention, Mitrovic and Palinha (for example) would want the same wages as Nunes and Ramos ...(for example). Another good trade off? Sacrificing something good that will last 5 years, to prevent a bad 2 weeks?

There is a plan... and thankfully it is being carried out by people with a clear vision.

 

[Southdownswolf]

You havent been vindicated. The club has just changed their policy. The risk averse approach of January was a major mistake, and this change of course is, at least partly, an acknowledgement of that. The fans who have been vindicated are the ones who were critical.

Codswallop

The club have probably kept to the same plan all along, to sign players that they believe will make the team/squad better, when those players are available. Not only that, but we are now in a position that we are able to spend more on players, due to previous inactivity and keep within UEFA FFP regulations.
Just because they've said we need to generate money before we buy, doesn't mean that we have to sell to buy instantly. The club has been making profit and they probably have deals in place, such as Coady, to guarantee the income is there for a big window this time.
The risk averse policy of January has been vindicated as we now have more money to spend on each player.

This isn't because some blokes on molmix have been moaning.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Still sitting on the fence, eh, Bill?

From the off, I considered it wise to wait until the end of the window, before rating the window.

I've been as frustrated as anyone that we don't do early business, but it seems there's a reason for that.

Judge our recruitment on September 1st, not June 21st.

 

[Andy]

The concerns as you put it are opinions and everyone has a right to them. That is not what this is about. It’s about the muppets that used these to set out on a vicious agenda.

ok mate, maybe I read different posts to you, I don't remember anything vicious, I'm just happy and excited for Saturday and the rest of the season.

 

[Loefah]

No, it wasn’t valid. We were financially constrained and Fosun and Jeff did a great job getting us through the pandemic and ffp considerations without taking on any more debt and maintaining a decent finish position in the Premier League.
Regardless of anyones pov at any point, it should never have warranted the levels of **** thrown in the club’s direction.

Agreed on the last point, absolutely.

It was never a valid pov. It was tantamount to calling for the managers head after losing your opening two games before going on to qualify for Europe.

I think it was valid to have some doubts. We hadn't signed a CB or CM for several years and the squad was in decline. I know had some doubts, but I didn't feel the need to spout bile on here or social media.

 

[Loojay]

Codswallop

The club have probably kept to the same plan all along, to sign players that they believe will make the team/squad better, when those players are available. Not only that, but we are now in a position that we are able to spend more on players, due to previous inactivity and keep within UEFA FFP regulations.
Just because they've said we need to generate money before we buy, doesn't mean that we have to sell to buy instantly. The club has been making profit and they probably have deals in place, such as Coady, to guarantee the income is there for a big window this time.
The risk averse policy of January has been vindicated as we now have more money to spend on each player.

This isn't because some blokes on molmix have been moaning.

Just stick him on ignore it is bliss

 

[wolvesjoe]

That doesn’t mean that those who have some patience havent been vindicated.

No I am sorry but you dont get away with that. You and others actively supported the disastrous moves of January. Nothing to do with patience, just a bad call.

 

[Supadavewolf]

From the off, I considered it wise to wait until the end of the window, before rating the window.

I've been as frustrated as anyone that we don't do early business, but it seems there's a reason for that.

Judge our recruitment on September 1st, not June 21st.

You and me both, mate (together with a few more on here)

 

[wolfslair]

Reference to 'simmering' and 'boiling'?

Are you suggesting Doris worked her magic when Guo and Uncle Jorge were here

She makes the best tea does Doris!

 

[wolvesaywe]

I'd maybe proceed with this view with some cautious optimism.

Yes, Nunes will take our net spend to about £85m.

But the window is still very open!

We don't yet know if this spending will be offset with some big departures and the only thing that's changed is 'sell to buy' has become 'buy then sell'.

Hopefully not, but it could still happen.

I very much doubt we land players of the quality of Guedes and Nunes if we're looking to offload the likes of Neves

There must be some major assurances on the immediate and future plans

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I'd maybe proceed with this view with some cautious optimism.

Yes, Nunes will take our net spend to about £85m.

But the window is still very open!

We don't yet know if this spending will be offset with some big departures and the only thing that's changed is 'sell to buy' has become 'buy then sell'.

Hopefully not, but it could still happen.

If the rest of our business is to buy Ramos and to sell MGW, Traore and maybe Boly and raise towards £50m then I don't think anyone will doubt it was a great window?

 

[Jayjaywolves]

Sorry I can't climb the tree again with my umbrella in hand

Are you sure that's your "umbrella" in your hand.
It would be something else in mine.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Believe me wolvesjoe, they didn't change their policy because you moaned on the forum, they changed their policy because circumstances have clearly changed.

I agree.

 

[Wisdomwolf]

You havent been vindicated. The club has just changed their policy. The risk averse approach of January was a major mistake, and this change of course is, at least partly, an acknowledgement of that. The fans who have been vindicated are the ones who were critical.

If anyone thinks its the fans that have prompted some sort of about turn I am sorry to disappoint. Hugely successful, powerful corporations don't work this way. They have a plan and stick to it. Very little deviates from strategy. The only threat from consumers is when they go public on mass for ethical reasons. This is not the case with Wolves, however fans might think.

The really big news is off field and may also include back room additions as well as investment.

As ever lets be patient and try to avoid guessing timescales.

 

[DrinkingLAGELAGELAGE]

Nunes this week, Striker next week. Nothing I’ve heard just what I’m hoping for!

 

[Darvo]

On a serious note, anyone got eyes on Compton?

Probably best if you stay away from trees for a while

 

[cannockwolves]

Let's wait and see him in a wolves shirt but before we get too worked up.

There is too much noise for it not to be close, but Pep or Klop might might make a last minute bid.

But on the wider point about Fosun changing back to splashing the cash, I think we are also going to have to wait until the end of the window. We may get a striker on loan, then see the like so Adama, MGW, Podence - or even Neves moved on the cover these in coming deals.

Until that window shuts we don't really know what their plans are to be honest.

 

[Wolf316]

Hopefully Preston will be a seek out next week with probable Nunes home debut.

 

[wolvesjoe]

If anyone thinks its the fans that have prompted some sort of about turn I am sorry to disappoint. Hugely successful, powerful corporations don't work this way. They have a plan and stick to it. Very little deviates from strategy. The only threat from consumers is when they go public on mass for ethical reasons. This is not the case with Wolves, however fans might think.

The really big news is off field and may also include back room additions as well as investment.

As ever lets be patient and try to avoid guessing timescales.

No doubt true.

But it is hard to quantify the influence of social media discussion. The town square is much bigger than it ever has been.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Fosun have switched strategy to what critics have been calling for. I believe that is what the lawyers call undisputed facts.

So how is that not a vindication?

They didn't switch strategy today did they?

Vindicated lol. When the club suggested our recent strategy was temporary, you completely ignored them and have been criticising them at every opportunity.

You don't come out of this a winner pal, hold your head in shame. You've been proved wrong and you've egg all over your face and dripping down your neck and off your nose.

Vindicated my ****.

 

[woop woop barmy army]

Hopefully Preston will be a seek out next week with probable Nunes home debut.

Ticket sales will increase