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rg4352 said:
You really wanna die on this hill huh?

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Wolves and Lopetegui agree to part ways

Wolves and Julen Lopetegui have reached an agreement to part ways, ending the Spaniard’s nine-month reign as head coach at the club.
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Nuno set to leave Wolves

Wolves can confirm head coach Nuno Espírito Santo will leave the club, by mutual agreement, after Sunday’s match against Manchester United.
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Nuno was also compensated when he left wolves
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Nah I think I’ll leave it.
 
Streathamwolf said:
He did, where did I say it wasn't? He also used the media to manipulate our club, make sure he got a payout and ****ed off 4 days before our first game
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Personally, I couldn't give a flying **** in this corrupt world of money; he kept us in this division !
If I had the choice of staying in the PL and giving some geezer a payout or have some time in the Championship, I think I may choose the former.
 
Timberwolf said:
Oh okay. I just seem to remember the subject was touched upon when Lop left. I don’t know if any conclusions were made so I made lazy assumptions. It would be a bit of a jip if we got nowt back.
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Thinking about it, I’m sure when Nuno left it was reported we agreed to pay him and his staff for a certain time or amount until they found new employment, I can’t remember where I saw/read that though, in which case perhaps there is a clause to do with getting money back or stopping paying if he finds new employment. Guess it’s all about what was negotiated (hopefully that we do get it back)
 
Timberwolf said:
He’d rather join a ****-pot club in the back **** of the desert, than manage a club in arguably the best league in the world, coz he’d have had to put some effort in…speaks volumes about him.
I guess if he goes to Saudi, Wolves get a large chunk of the contract pay-off back?
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Not always mate. Some are monthly till a new job is found which is why some managers sit on the sidelines for so long.

If it was paid in lump sum, without an NDA to talk about the club negatively then that is poor by fosun. As not many clubs do that now without some kind of clause.
 
rg4352 said:
You really wanna die on this hill huh?

www.wolves.co.uk

Wolves and Lopetegui agree to part ways

Wolves and Julen Lopetegui have reached an agreement to part ways, ending the Spaniard’s nine-month reign as head coach at the club.
www.wolves.co.uk www.wolves.co.uk

www.wolves.co.uk

Nuno set to leave Wolves

Wolves can confirm head coach Nuno Espírito Santo will leave the club, by mutual agreement, after Sunday’s match against Manchester United.
www.wolves.co.uk www.wolves.co.uk

Nuno was also compensated when he left wolves
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Great, we both agree that Lopetegui was mutually terminated, just like Nuno. Now maybe you can say that to all the people who keep telling me JL quit?
 
Streathamwolf said:
If it was to keep his mouth shut we should get every penny back.
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Depends on the conditions of the NDA, as if he did the interview in another country or if he can prove wolves breached it their end by responsible for “leaking” or “briefing” the media or even the club themselves making negative or perceived negative comments about him can also see an NDA made unenforceable.
 
Jefe said:
Great, we both agree that Lopetegui was mutually terminated, just like Nuno. Now maybe you can say that to all the people who keep telling me JL quit?
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Hobbs said that Lopetegui had told him after the Celtic game that he was going. Come on, given all JL's antics over the summer and interviews, you're not seriously trying to say that he didn't effectively quit, whatever the face saving words used when he went?
 
Wolf in Kenilworth said:
Don’t pay offs only work if he doesn’t get employed again?

Pretty sure Spurs saved us money when they appointed Nuno?

I really hope this is the case.
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It depends on the club and the coach as to what was agreed. He had a decent amount of time left on his contract so he could easily have said “I’ll stay till I’m sacked” which would have meant 100% payout until he got another job. Though he went mutual consent so I’d say some kind of severance package was agreed where he got say 6 months money but it was guaranteed whether he got another job or not, that way both parties “win”.

In the same way I doubt very much that GONs contract is not simply a 3 year deal, there’ll be some caveats in there somewhere.
 
Zico said:
Hobbs said that Lopetegui had told him after the Celtic game that he was going. Come on, given all JL's antics over the summer and interviews, you're not seriously trying to say that he didn't effectively quit, whatever the face saving words used when he went?
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It's a mutual termination. Just because Lopetegui's side of that was publicised and the club's side of it wasn't, doesn't mean the club didn't have one. Do you think it's likely Fosun wanted to him to stay after he criticised their ownership multiple times publicly? They would also want to 'save face', as I keep hearing regards Chinese owners. Had he not instigated the end himself (blinked first?), they probably would've sacked him over the bad optics being caused.
 
Now I can only go with what I saw and what has been reported so its just an opinion but........


He threw his toys out of the pram when he couldn't buy, buy , buy so in the end it was a mutual bye bye bye

I was very MEH when O Neil was appointed , especially after the summer clear out, but what we now lack in quality we make up for with sheer hard work , energy , endeavour and intent.

And they all seem to be enjoying themselves.

Long may it continue.
 
Bryce said:
Now I can only go with what I saw and what has been reported so its just an opinion but........


He threw his toys out of the pram when he couldn't buy, buy , buy so in the end it was a mutual bye bye bye

I was very MEH when O Neil was appointed , especially after the summer clear out, but what we now lack in quality we make up for with sheer hard work , energy , endeavour and intent.

And they all seem to be enjoying themselves.

Long may it continue.
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Couldn’t agree more with this and whilst I don’t speak for the fan base I’d say a lot of us will forgive a lack of talent if it’s matched with “putting a shift in”. It’s why I couldn’t really take to Nunes, supremely talented but didn’t show enough desire to play for us.

GON isn’t Pep, that’s clear to see and he doesn’t (and won’t) get it right every week but he’s moulded a squad very much similar to him, what they might lack tactically at times they’re all putting the work in. There’s no Guedes, Trincao or Nunes types just floating about anf not giving 100%. Said on another thread that Ait Nouri is proof of GONs influence. Nuno didn’t really trust him, neither did Lage or JL as under all 3 he had periods of showing his undoubted talents but he also looked lazy at times and not focused and that’s largely been removed from his game. He now is starting to look every inch of the player he could be
 
We can close this book now. He's history. Yes he kept us up and thank you.

But we now have Sir Gary a young hungry English manager who wants to be here and is giving his all. Will hit a few bumps along the way but we are scoring goals, playing well and players are fully committed. Not often we can say this.
 
rg4352 said:
Thinking about it, I’m sure when Nuno left it was reported we agreed to pay him and his staff for a certain time or amount until they found new employment, I can’t remember where I saw/read that though, in which case perhaps there is a clause to do with getting money back or stopping paying if he finds new employment. Guess it’s all about what was negotiated (hopefully that we do get it back)
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An obligation to mitigate your losses is standard in pretty much any UK (well England and Wales) contract including those relating to employment.
 
SteveBullsKnee said:
He can have his eye on it, he won’t get it. The United “fans” will be baying for blood if they don’t get a big name.
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He's seeing what happens at Newcastle, I reckon. I said to a West Ham mate over the weekend that they should bite the bullet, sack Moyes and get Lopetegui in before he goes elsewhere.
 
Ned said:
He's seeing what happens at Newcastle, I reckon. I said to a West Ham mate over the weekend that they should bite the bullet, sack Moyes and get Lopetegui in before he goes elsewhere.
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Why? So the Hammers can have another problem?

He's difficult. No way that ownership should want anything to do with him.
 
Ned said:
He's seeing what happens at Newcastle, I reckon. I said to a West Ham mate over the weekend that they should bite the bullet, sack Moyes and get Lopetegui in before he goes elsewhere.
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Will Newcastle come in when he's turned down Al Ittihad? Maybe 6 months there would have got him on track for the job!
 
Ned said:
He's seeing what happens at Newcastle, I reckon. I said to a West Ham mate over the weekend that they should bite the bullet, sack Moyes and get Lopetegui in before he goes elsewhere.
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I think there’s every chance he’ll be next Newcastle manager. They’re stuttering at the moment albeit due to a massive injury list.

JL to West Ham would be hilarious to watch. If he fell out with Jeff wait till he has to deal with Sullivan !!
 
SteveBullsKnee said:
I think there’s every chance he’ll be next Newcastle manager. They’re stuttering at the moment albeit due to a massive injury list.

JL to West Ham would be hilarious to watch. If he fell out with Jeff wait till he has to deal with Sullivan !!
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It would be fantastic but they seem happier to spend large sums than we did. He’s also better than Moyes.
 
SteveBullsKnee said:
I think there’s every chance he’ll be next Newcastle manager. They’re stuttering at the moment albeit due to a massive injury list.
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Newcastle fans absolutely adore Howe. He will get a long leash imo.

I think, frankly, it makes more sense for that project to be one of normalizing Saudi ownership and NOT just trying to spend ostentatiously etc. From a sportswashing perspective it makes more sense imo. Right where they are, in the CL but not buying it, is perfect for them.
 
Virtually throughout his tenure I felt there was an undercurrent of doubt regarding his personal investment into Wolves. How many times did we read of journalists asking did he intend to stay. He seemed to perpetuate this doubt in order to get maximum investment support from Fosun. It is totally to his credit that he dragged our team from bottom to a respectable 13th. But in the preseason match against Celtic we were very fortunate that Celtic were a little rusty in front of goal and should have scored multiple times. Subsequently we improved and made a game of it but it was worrying. That was one of the issues with his management. His team's lacked consistency from game to game and team spirit was generally absent. I wish him well but feel he was never a Wolf.
 
Ned said:
He's seeing what happens at Newcastle, I reckon. I said to a West Ham mate over the weekend that they should bite the bullet, sack Moyes and get Lopetegui in before he goes elsewhere.
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If you were to compare the two careers It's hard to say Lopetegui is the better manager. Both flunked their chance at the top jobs. Both won minor European tournaments. Think they'd be getting a downgrade myself.
 
JJ59 said:
Virtually throughout his tenure I felt there was an undercurrent of doubt regarding his personal investment into Wolves. How many times did we read of journalists asking did he intend to stay. He seemed to perpetuate this doubt in order to get maximum investment support from Fosun. It is totally to his credit that he dragged our team from bottom to a respectable 13th. But in the preseason match against Celtic we were very fortunate that Celtic were a little rusty in front of goal and should have scored multiple times. Subsequently we improved and made a game of it but it was worrying. That was one of the issues with his management. His team's lacked consistency from game to game and team spirit was generally absent. I wish him well but feel he was never a Wolf.
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That sums up my feelings entirely.

I always wanted JL and rated him (still do) but it always felt like he was detached from us and that we were lucky to have him. He never felt “one of us” and I always felt he’d leave at the sight of the first bigger job (I was wrong on that!) and whilst he clearly had the rug pulled from under him, he certainly wasn’t prepared to roll his sleeves up and fight for himself, his players or indeed us.

Crazy thing is the investment there has been in the summer would presumably be what he was offered and a lesser coach has got us to 12th so far despite some very dubious decisions by him and also officials. Wonder if JL regrets jumping ship so easily? He should do!
 
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