Loan Thread 2023/24

[WKFWolf]

I like Cundle but he will be off in the summer for 2-3m max with a sell on

 

[giantwolf]

Sunday 4th February

Goncalo Guedes came on at half time as Villarreal drew 0-0 at home to Cadiz. Yerson Mosquera was an unused substitute

Bendeguz Bolla assisted one and scored one as Servette beat Lausanne 3-1 in an 84th minute appearance. That’s his 4th goal of the season

https://twitter.com/x/status/1754279110157775167

The assist:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1754414563385389257

Goal at 1:40:

Daniel Podence played the final 20 mins as Olympiacos lost 2-0 away at Panathinaikos

 

[Pengwern]

Bolla has apparently improved consistently - get him back for summer pre-season!

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Bolla has apparently improved consistently - get him back for summer pre-season!

Bolla definitely is one we really should give a chance to, hope GON gets to at least scope him out

 

[giantwolf]

Bolla has apparently improved consistently - get him back for summer pre-season!

Bolla definitely is one we really should give a chance to, hope GON gets to at least scope him out

Certainly his best season so far. He's great going forward but really not up to the level defensively IMHO. His passing also needs work.

However, just a reminder Servette have an option to buy

 

[Plovdiv Wolf]

Certainly his best season so far. He's great going forward but really not up to the level defensively IMHO. His passing also needs work.

However, just a reminder Servette have an option to buy

4 goals

 

[hollo]

Certainly his best season so far. He's great going forward but really not up to the level defensively IMHO. His passing also needs work.

However, just a reminder Servette have an option to buy

How much was the option?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Certainly his best season so far. He's great going forward but really not up to the level defensively IMHO. His passing also needs work.

However, just a reminder Servette have an option to buy

Yeah I don’t see a scenario where he wears a wolves shirt again

 

[Plovdiv Wolf]

Yeah I don’t see a scenario where he wears a wolves shirt again

What happen with Hoever?

 

[giantwolf]

Yeah I don’t see a scenario where he wears a wolves shirt again

Agreed

 

[giantwolf]

What happen with Hoever?

on loan at Stoke. Another one good going forward but a liability defensively. In the same bracket as Bolla for me.... he won't play for us in a competitive 1st team game

 

[Plovdiv Wolf]

on loan at Stoke. Another one good going forward but a liability defensively. In the same bracket as Bolla for me.... he won't play for us in a competitive 1st team game

We pay 9m his contract end 2025. Big hope one cup game against us

 

[giantwolf]

How much was the option?

no idea, but I'd imagine it would be c£2m (at most)

 

[lets all have a disco]

Yeah I don’t see a scenario where he wears a wolves shirt again

Again, has he ever wor a wolves shirt ....I think the nearest he has been to Wolverhampton and the pitch was on the bench for Hungary.....I doubt he has stepped foot in Wolverhampton anymore times...

Edit....did ya mean hover.....the bolla talk fit me sidetracked

 

[Minimalist]

Are all ties with grasshoppers now cut?

If so I wonder if we’ll look for a similar arrangement with another team?

 

[giantwolf]

Again, has he ever wor a wolves shirt ....I think the nearest he has been to Wolverhampton and the pitch was on the bench for Hungary.....I doubt he has stepped foot in Wolverhampton anymore times...

Edit....did ya mean hover.....the bolla talk fit me sidetracked

do you know what, I'm not entirely against this.

*Low cost purchase - tick
*lowish wages - tick
*potential decent upward ceiling - tick
*worth a punt as low risk - tick
*if it goes really well, a potential player for Wolves - X

Ok, so he's developed, but maybe not quite up to the standard we'd need in the prem, so we don't meet the last criteria, but he's probably met the others. We had to be (and still do) need to be creative with FFP to compete - low risk purchase (c£800k would not have impacted spending elsewhere in the grand scheme of things), sell for a profit, costs largely covered in the interim.

 

[lets all have a disco]

do you know what, I'm not entirely against this.

*Low cost purchase - tick
*lowish wages - tick
*potential decent upward ceiling - tick
*worth a punt as low risk - tick
*if it goes really well, a potential player for Wolves - X

Ok, so he's developed, but maybe not quite up to the standard we'd need in the prem, so we don't meet the last criteria, but he's probably met the others. We had to be (and still do) need to be creative with FFP to compete - low risk purchase (c£800k would not have impacted spending elsewhere in the grand scheme of things), sell for a profit, costs largely covered in the interim.

Yes agree ..I've always got the purchase of bolla from day 1....it was to make profit....

It's just the constant he should be given a chance in the first team....when in reality he isn't up to it.....it's the same when we say kids should be given a chance...when they probably ain't up to it....bar a few exceptions

 

[giantwolf]

Yes agree ..I've always got the purchase of bolla from day 1....it was to make profit....

It's just the constant he should be given a chance in the first team....when in reality he isn't up to it.....it's the same when we say kids should be given a chance...when they probably ain't up to it....bar a few exceptions

Gotcha.... sorry missed the angle you approached it from.

Yep, 100% agree on both counts.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Gotcha.... sorry missed the angle you approached it from.

Yep, 100% agree on both counts.

The two players I have been desperate for us to get rid of for 3 seasons are Jordao and bolla....not that I have anything against either , I'm just sick to death of the "Give them a chance , have a look at them in pre season stuff"...

When its pretty obvious they won't make a premier league squad EVER..

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

do you know what, I'm not entirely against this.

*Low cost purchase - tick
*lowish wages - tick
*potential decent upward ceiling - tick
*worth a punt as low risk - tick
*if it goes really well, a potential player for Wolves - X

Ok, so he's developed, but maybe not quite up to the standard we'd need in the prem, so we don't meet the last criteria, but he's probably met the others. We had to be (and still do) need to be creative with FFP to compete - low risk purchase (c£800k would not have impacted spending elsewhere in the grand scheme of things), sell for a profit, costs largely covered in the interim.

Our record is not very good for these kind of sales. From what I gather Jonnu has left for nowt with us still paying part of his salary. Jordao will hold on until the end of his contract. Mattheson has gone probably on the hope we will get a sell on fee. And more. So if this is the trend I certainly dont see us making a profit on Bolla.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Again, has he ever wor a wolves shirt ....I think the nearest he has been to Wolverhampton and the pitch was on the bench for Hungary.....I doubt he has stepped foot in Wolverhampton anymore times...

Edit....did ya mean hover.....the bolla talk fit me sidetracked

I’ll stand corrected but I though Bolla played a couple of pre season friendlies abroad under Nuno

 

[lets all have a disco]

I’ll stand corrected but I though Bolla played a couple of pre season friendlies abroad under Nuno

Not 100% sure ....can't remember him featuring...didn't feature in Asia ...spent 2 or 3 seasons at grasshoppers......anyway he will go...if the Swiss team don't take the option, the alarms bells will be banging even if they haven't already....as I say nothing against him , he was purchased to make a profit, similar to the Korean chap and Japanese chap we signed....it's just some never got it....

 

[goldfish]

do you know what, I'm not entirely against this.

*Low cost purchase - tick
*lowish wages - tick
*potential decent upward ceiling - tick
*worth a punt as low risk - tick
*if it goes really well, a potential player for Wolves - X

Ok, so he's developed, but maybe not quite up to the standard we'd need in the prem, so we don't meet the last criteria, but he's probably met the others. We had to be (and still do) need to be creative with FFP to compete - low risk purchase (c£800k would not have impacted spending elsewhere in the grand scheme of things), sell for a profit, costs largely covered in the interim.

We only need one in ten of those kind of signings to really come off and we're quids in: just look at Kilman and Toti! And then we've potentially got Mosquera too.

 

[Pengwern]

Passing and positioning can be coached, and Bolla, Lembikisa and Hoever can all be improved under GON & his coaches to see which of them is best ready to join the first team squad. Remember Bolla is a Hungarian international, so he must have had a taste of a higher level than the Swiss League!

 

[giantwolf]

We only need one in ten of those kind of signings to really come off and we're quids in: just look at Kilman and Toti! And then we've potentially got Mosquera too.

Rafa Mir is probably the most obvious sale for me > low cost > big profit
Toti is an example of it working to become a player for Wolves (haven't included Max as the approach was different - he was bought with the intention of developing at Wolves, the others bought with loans in mind)

Bolla is probably in the same bracket as Leonardo Campana, Hayao Kawabe, Sang Bin Jeong - low cost > smallish profit

Of course there are examples where it doesn't work but some posters saying our record is not very good is a bit wide of the mark

 

[Pengwern]

He's got a shot on him and seems to be two-footed, judging from that vid

 

[hollo]

How on earth did we get 2 million for sang bin? Inchy really did us a favour.

 

[JOSWolf]

Read an interesting article on Dexter Lembikisa earlier saying how he is enjoying his loan spell at Hearts and is playing in a much more attacking team that have a lot of possession. Seems he is doing well there and will be great for us potentially if he comes back in pre season in confident and attacking form.

 

[SuperGran]

Read an interesting article on Dexter Lembikisa earlier saying how he is enjoying his loan spell at Hearts and is playing in a much more attacking team that have a lot of possession. Seems he is doing well there and will be great for us potentially if he comes back in pre season in confident and attacking form.

I’m glad he’s enjoying his football because his last loan didn’t go well for him

 

[JOSWolf]

I’m glad he’s enjoying his football because his last loan didn’t go well for him

He still played plenty of games which is good. Sounds like he is at a team who want to play football now though, instead of being on the back foot for majority of games.

 

[lets all have a disco]

I’m glad he’s enjoying his football because his last loan didn’t go well for him

Both chapters will do him good....

 

[North West Wanderer]

Read an interesting article on Dexter Lembikisa earlier saying how he is enjoying his loan spell at Hearts and is playing in a much more attacking team that have a lot of possession. Seems he is doing well there and will be great for us potentially if he comes back in pre season in confident and attacking form.

He's doing very well, I was more impressed my colleagues could spell his name in fairness

 

[SilverstoneWolf]

Just seen on Sky we have terminated contract of Bruno Jordao to enable him to find another club. OK - so no fee received (did we expect one?) but at least off wage bill and not 'hanging around'....

 

[WickedWolfie]

Just seen on Sky we have terminated contract of Bruno Jordao to enable him to find another club. OK - so no fee received (did we expect one?) but at least off wage bill and not 'hanging around'....

I would imagine that he may have something lined up.

 

[hollo]

 

[SilverstoneWolf]

And also saw Fabio Silva benched again.... Scored first goal on Saturday for Rangers and on BBC was Man of the Match. Just when we thought he might get a bit of confidence and smile again, yet another manager ****es on his fireworks.

Perhaps he has a slight strain... Sorry for the lad.

 

[hollo]

The Rangers manager likes to rotate.

 

[Rowzed]

And also saw Fabio Silva benched again.... Scored first goal on Saturday for Rangers and on BBC was Man of the Match. Just when we thought he might get a bit of confidence and smile again, yet another manager ****es on his fireworks.

Perhaps he has a slight strain... Sorry for the lad.

Might just be his last game was Saturday having barely kicked a ball for months. Looks like good management to me.
Hope he starts at the week end in preparation for the Old Firm derby and perhaps top of the league decider in 11 days.

Get a hat-trick in that game and we can name our price!

 

[giantwolf]

First start for Harry Birtwhistle tonight for Oxford City away at Woking

 

[giantwolf]

And here’s the Lembikisa article @JOSWolf mentioned

https://t.co/COQxRHglTI