Lets discuss Fabio and his future .

[Mile End Wanderer]

Needs to cut his hair and everything will be ok.

Steve Bull told him to do that too apparently

You have to laugh. Reminds me of that non league player southampton signed. Fabio fish out of water. Used by Mendes for his own means unfortunately it had to be Fabio. Sooner we let him move on the better

 

[MasWolf]

I have a feeling that might be the last time we see him in a Wolves shirt. Very sad if that's the case.

 

[Vtrpres]

Two things concern me . Who in their right mind is going to pay for Silva ? Why should an established goal scorer , I say rather than a striker, come to Molineux to stop scoring goals due to lack of service.
Easy meal ticket at Wolves at the moment.
VAR might be incompetent but so are our players giving them a chance to be so.

 

[waveney wolf]

He's only 21! As I asked earlier how many 21 year olds are leading the line for a prem club? Was his fee high? Yes, but I don't blame him for that. I don't think he's all that bad either at the start of the season he was looking very good, but at 21 the consistency isn't going to be there yet. Far far too early to write off

" he's only 21 " ....that's been said since " he's only 17 " ..how many more years?
Age is irrelevant, he's not good enough, never has been, never will be ..end of

 

[wolfslair]

More and more I think he should go out to a Championship side.

For me he needs to feel the heat of battle , not another continental "holiday." He has done that and come back no stronger.
If he doesnt show some steel in his game he may as well be sold to a mediterranean club.

He will get eaten alive in the championship…..

 

[wwbug]

He will get eaten alive in the championship…..

Make or break. Whats the other choices wandering around Europe softballing ?

 

[wwbug]

I don’t think Shi took a gamble. Doesn’t strike me as the type to put £35m down on a casino table.

More likely he was duped. He was obviously told by people he trusted (chiefly Mendes) that Fabio was the next teenage superstar.

If this is the way it worked, Shi is culpable .
Anyone at the top of a company cannot waste those levels of resource without some independent research.
Unless Guo was the decision maker.

 

[kentish wolf]

It has all been said regarding this lad.
All I can say is he is not up to this level at this moment in time.
A parting of the ways looks inevitable.
Hopefully Wolves have learnt a very,very expensive lesson

 

[Parkfieldswolf]

If this is the way it worked, Shi is culpable .
Anyone at the top of a company cannot waste those levels of resource without some independent research.
Unless Guo was the decision maker.

Nobody apart from Jeff, Mendes and Guo know the real reason for the purchase but my money is on all three being involved in channeling money around clubs that Mendes is involved with. I have no idea of the intricacies of football club finances but somehow this made sense and possibly money to them and Mendes especially.

 

[Ned]

I think it’s starting to get to the stage where the club itself is having a negative impact on his career. It’s not the club’s fault or Fabio’s but maybe he needs a fresh start where there are no bad memories and no negative association for him.

 

[Matt]

I think it’s starting to get to the stage where the club itself is having a negative impact on his career. It’s not the club’s fault or Fabio’s but maybe he needs a fresh start where there are no bad memories and no negative association for him.

Totally agree. Too much pressure here for him. I don’t think he’s a bad player, but he needs to go to a lesser league where the pressure is less and he can start to enjoy himself. The tears yesterday are the result of a young lad not having a good time. Hopefully he can get a good move in January, for everyone’s sake.

 

[loppers86]

Totally agree. Too much pressure here for him. I don’t think he’s a bad player, but he needs to go to a lesser league where the pressure is less and he can start to enjoy himself. The tears yesterday are the result of a young lad not having a good time. Hopefully he can get a good move in January, for everyone’s sake.

yes. times up. i hope he has a good career somewhere, but it definitely won’t be with us.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Fabio getting death threats on his social media from some of our so called fans

I am ashamed to read the reaction to Fabio. I thought Wolves fans were better than this.

 

[Nige100]

Fabio getting death threats on his social media from some of our so called fans

No no no. ****ing idiots that’s absolutely shocking. Fabio’s cameo yesterday was a disaster he was like a man possessed and completely ineffective. But death threats OMG the world we live in because of social media is lower than any gutter.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Made no contact with Baldock's head, just jumped into the back of him. It was a foul and it was definitely a "you're going to know I'm here" foul, but wasn't remotely dirty in my book

He has probably been told to toughen up, which is fair enough. But he has interpreted that as throwing himself into challenges, which is not helping.

Needs intensive coaching, and appropriate support to get to where he should be, technique wise. Everyone would like the process to have gone quicker, but we are where we are. Fans can play a role by being supportive while he works it out.

 

[loppers86]

He has probably been told to toughen up, which is fair enough. But he has interpreted that as throwing himself into challenges, which is not helping.

Needs intensive coaching, and appropriate support to get to where he should be, technique wise. Everyone would like the process to have gone quicker, but we are where we are. Fans can play a role by being supportive while he works it out.

i’d give him a free transfer.

 

[Sutton Wolf]

I fear for Fabio’s mental health the way he’s being treated by some of our so called supporters. He’s constantly being sent on for 20 or 15 minutes to try and win the game and consequently tries too hard. This is the managers fault as he’s not being coached or used correctly.
Fabio needs help and support from both the coaching staff and the supporters more than ever now.

 

[QB Wolf]

Pity we don’t have a traditional reserves team any more.

It must be difficult for a player to play no real football for weeks and then come on and be expected to perform.

A few games and hopefully goals in the reserves would surely help him.

 

[loppers86]

I fear for Fabio’s mental health the way he’s being treated by some of our so called supporters. He’s constantly being sent on for 20 or 15 minutes to try and win the game and consequently tries too hard. This is the managers fault as he’s not being coached or used correctly.
Fabio needs help and support from both the coaching staff and the supporters more than ever now.

it’s just not meant to be.

we should say thanks and help him to move on amicably.

if he really was as good as his reputation we have ruined him, but i suspect Jeff was just sold a pup by Mendes.

 

[yateleywolf]

I'm sure he will do well somewhere but it won't be with us .

 

[wwbug]

Nobody apart from Jeff, Mendes and Guo know the real reason for the purchase but my money is on all three being involved in channeling money around clubs that Mendes is involved with. I have no idea of the intricacies of football club finances but somehow this made sense and possibly money to them and Mendes especially.

And whatever the case , he is now part of the past . We should forget about him . That’s best for all parties.
For me he should be removed from the first team squad and dealt with as a supernumerary.

 

[floydstreet]

He’s a wolf, he cares and he tries

Stick with him and support him and don’t turn on him. I don’t think it’s ever going to work out, but doesn’t make him a bad bloke and doesn’t mean he doesn’t care.

And yesterday a ref too quick to decide and appalling var to blame, not him

 

[LosgallardosWolf]

This guy has mental health issues and we ( me included) need to get off his back. I have been diagnosed with PTSD, so I can understand why he felt like he did after the game

 

[Contrarian]

Pity we don’t have a traditional reserves team any more.

It must be difficult for a player to play no real football for weeks and then come on and be expected to perform.

A few games and hopefully goals in the reserves would surely help him.

Though that's the difference between Fabio and Hwang. Hwang was on the bench a lot last season, after a long run without scoring. Yet he had a knack of coming off the bench and scoring a goal. For strikers, scoring is what matters and the team as a whole is too important to keep clocking up minutes for a player that doesn't score and rarely looks like it. He scored his first few goals this season as a sub.

Whatever the future holds, right now, Hwang (and Sasa and Cunha), whatever their flaws, are better than Fabio. I think it;s always a problem when you spend a record fee on a player, to put him in the U23's looks like admtting the club made a mistake.

The idea that if a player is struggling, keep playing him until he isn't, doesn't work if the player isn't good enough. With young players, by the time they get that experience, their confidence will be wrecked. And I think this is what we've done with Fabio. Making him struggle in public all too often has done him no good. Even his loan last season upset a few here, where if he was the same player but had cost £5m from Estroil, nobody would bother if we never saw him here, like some of our other young players.

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

He's only 21! As I asked earlier how many 21 year olds are leading the line for a prem club? Was his fee high? Yes, but I don't blame him for that. I don't think he's all that bad either at the start of the season he was looking very good, but at 21 the consistency isn't going to be there yet. Far far too early to write off

Sorry Bod, usually agree with you but Fabio has never shown the qualities required to be a no.9 in our league and I doubt he ever will. Lacks pace to run behind, can't head a ball, hadsn't got a strong shot, prefers flicks and tricks. It's not lack of consistency it's a kick of natural ability.

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

I am ashamed to read the reaction to Fabio. I thought Wolves fans were better than this.

They are not Wolves fans, doubt they are even british. Kids or morons. Cowardly and stupid.

I thought social media platforms were supposed to crack down on this stuff. They need identifying and arresting.

 

[Muscat]

Sorry Bod, usually agree with you but Fabio has never shown the qualities required to be a no.9 in our league and I doubt he ever will. Lacks pace to run behind, can't head a ball, hadsn't got a strong shot, prefers flicks and tricks. It's not lack of consistency it's a kick of natural ability.

Talking rubbish.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Sorry, but this is plain wrong. NO Wolves' fan wants Wolves to lose. Because fans (including myself) have criticised Fabio in the past doesn't mean we want him to fail. Nothing would impress me more than for Fabio to come out and ram criticism from fans back down our throats, but I fear it won't happen.
I've only seen the penalty incident once and at normal speed from one angle, so for clarity am not talking about that, but I've seen little or nothing from the player since he arrived with great fanfare that makes me think he's at Premier League level. He's been at Wolves since 2020. Subsequent managers have not seen fit to play him (other than Nuno when Raul was injured). We've sent him out on loan to get experience and he's now back at a team that has a history of struggling to score and still he can't force his way into the starting 11. That must tell that he's not good enough!
Being right (or wrong) about Fabio is completely different to wanting him to fail, being "desperate for Wolves to lose" and being "absolutely pathetic fans", because we dare have opinions that differ from yours.
Fans say things in the heat of the moment and certainly after drinking too much, however, I have no doubt that there is some strong feeling and even stronger words directed at Fabio at this moments, but Wolves' fans wanting our team to lose. Come on!

No fans want wolves to lose? There were “fans” on HERE wanting City to thump us so that GON got the sack.

 

[Irish_Wolf]

Nobody apart from Jeff, Mendes and Guo know the real reason for the purchase but my money is on all three being involved in channeling money around clubs that Mendes is involved with. I have no idea of the intricacies of football club finances but somehow this made sense and possibly money to them and Mendes especially.

The Silva deal stinks

 

[wwbug]

I have a feeling that might be the last time we see him in a Wolves shirt. Very sad if that's the case.

For his sake I dont want to see him in a Wolves shirt. Its not fair to him or us to be put in this arena. .

 

[Shergar]

I am ashamed to read the reaction to Fabio. I thought Wolves fans were better than this.

Don’t be ashamed, It’s more than likely not Wolves fans but the usual internet trolls from far and wide that can’t be traced, Raul had the same In the past.

 

[wolvesjoe]

Don’t be ashamed, It’s more than likely not Wolves fans but the usual internet trolls from far and wide that can’t be traced, Raul had the same In the past.

I hope you're right

 

[Dorbelflunk]

Don’t be ashamed, It’s more than likely not Wolves fans but the usual internet trolls from far and wide that can’t be traced, Raul had the same In the past.

Harry Maguire as well, and I'm sure there are dozens more. It doesn't make it OK and is a stain on modern football but it's certainly not unique to Wolves/Silva.

Every reasonable person can simultaneously say it's not working out and not wish harm on the lad.

 

[wolfslair]

Make or break. Whats the other choices wandering around Europe softballing ?

I think sell up and cut our losses sadly…..

His dad has too much say on his career and I think that is also impacting on the poor lad.

He clearly has a want to be the best he can be, but his dad seems to be quite the disruptive influence

But the longer he stays, the longer he doesn’t deliver in the prem the lower the fee gets.

 

[Golden Arrow]

No fans want wolves to lose? There were “fans” on HERE wanting City to thump us so that GON got the sack.

Some stupid knee jerk reaction that unfortunately appears common place in this shook up world of multi-media platforms.

No person in the right mind would want their team to lose irrespective of their thoughts towards a coach, chairman, player or grounds person. I would seriously question their loyalty if that was the case and suggest that they take up another interest.

 

[loppers86]

Some stupid knee jerk reaction that unfortunately appears common place in this shook up world of multi-media platforms.

No person in the right mind would want their team to lose irrespective of their thoughts towards a coach, chairman, player or grounds person. I would seriously question their loyalty if that was the case and suggest that they take up another interest.

i’m not aware of anyone who wanted us to lose to City to see the back of Gary. i think history may be being (re) written as we speak.

 

[Jefe]

He's only 21! As I asked earlier how many 21 year olds are leading the line for a prem club? Was his fee high? Yes, but I don't blame him for that. I don't think he's all that bad either at the start of the season he was looking very good, but at 21 the consistency isn't going to be there yet. Far far too early to write off

I agree we should take age into consideration when deciding whether or not to write him off. However, look at what Neves, Jota and Neto were capable of at the same age (the latter two also being forwards). Neves captained a Champions League side by 20! While all three were highly rated, I don't think generational talent or next young superstar or any such twaddle that has been associated with Fabio was ever used. I believe Jeff said something like Fabio was the best player in world football at his age?

I don't think it was a case of overpaying to offset earlier bargains, I think Jeff got hoodwinked quite simply. No coincidence that our relationship with Mendes cooled after this transfer. Most worryingly for Fabio is that he has not really improved in the three years since signing. This may very well be his ceiling, or close to it.

 

[old wittonian]

I agree we should take age into consideration when deciding whether or not to write him off. However, look at what Neves, Jota and Neto were capable of at the same age (the latter two also being forwards). Neves captained a Champions League side by 20! While all three were highly rated, I don't think generational talent or next young superstar or any such twaddle that has been associated with Fabio was ever used. I believe Jeff said something like Fabio was the best player in world football at his age?

I don't think it was a case of overpaying to offset earlier bargains, I think Jeff got hoodwinked quite simply. No coincidence that our relationship with Mendes cooled after this transfer. Most worryingly for Fabio is that he has not really improved in the three years since signing. This may very well be his ceiling, or close to it.

Sometimes I think we could make a random selection from the crowd who could be equally effective.
I'd now give Farmer a chance.

 

[Muscat]

We've done this to bits. You say look at Neves, but look at Toney, Watkins, Wilson etc at 21 - all playing in the lower leagues. This has been done to death.

What Fabio did last season was fine for a player of his age and suggested he might be a PL striker with time and normal improvement.

You can go back and read the Celtic match thread and see that he was universally praised for his performance there, which changed the game.

Now either he has totally lost the ability to play football since August or there is something more at play.

 

[thetwistedsock]

He is hopefully seeing a counselor such as Steve Peters. You would assume that the club already has someone in place maybe a permanent position.