Leon Chiwome

[Mile End Wanderer]

Surely he has to start against the vile

 

[Rubberball]

Surely he has to start against the vile

It's a bit too soon for the lad, he's not ready yet.

Need to give some of the youth players time to be ready for the toughest league in the world.

 

[Hot Fuss]

Standard though.

STICK THE KIDS IN!
STICK THE KIDS IN!

WHY ARE WE PLAYING KIDS WHO AREN'T READY?

At least we've moved on from wondering if anyone who scores half a dozen goals for the u18s might be the new Bully.

Those were the days, Scott Voice, Glenn Crowe, Colin Taylor, Mark Jones…

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Those were the days, Scott Voice, Glenn Crowe, Colin Taylor, Mark Jones…

Don't forget hat-trick hero Darren Roberts and Shaun Bradbury

 

[JOSWolf]

Can see he is going to be with the first team squad for the rest of this season with our lack of attacking options. Have a feeling he is going to be good for us and I would have him in the squad at Vile for sure.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

It's a bit too soon for the lad, he's not ready yet.

Need to give some of the youth players time to be ready for the toughest league in the world.

Throw him in we got nobody else fully fit

 

[Abbobrom]

Coventry were a much more physically mature side than we were on the day. Their two bid centre backs just bullied Fraser. His day will come as he develops with age.

 

[Pengwern]

Pace & runs - villa leave gaps in defence at home so give him an opportunity

 

[Rednal Wolf]

Don't forget hat-trick hero Darren Roberts and Shaun Bradbury

And the magnificent Dale Rudge !
82 to 84 before leaving for Preston .

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Chiwome scores cup final winner for England 9 days after making Wolves debut

www.molineux.news

 

[Wagstaffe Was Magic]

Would love to see him get a chance at Villa

 

[RosehillWolf]

Those were the days, Scott Voice, Glenn Crowe, Colin Taylor, Mark Jones…

Billy Livingstone , Paul Butler

 

[AndyY]

Would love to see him get a chance at Villa

I would rather he got his chance at Wolves!

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Could be the perfect foil for Cunha

 

[AndyY]

Could be the perfect foil for Cunha

We shouldnt put too much expectation on his (or Fraser’s) shoulders; still very early days.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

We shouldnt put too much expectation on his (or Fraser’s) shoulders; still very early days.

Exactly this. 6 weeks ago people were falling over themselves for Fraser then he had two average performances and folk were saying he’s not the level and never will be.

Both of them are very young and inexperienced and require time and patience to develop. In an ideal world neither would be anywhere near our first team right now and would be out on loan and getting game time without the additional pressure

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Fraser is a boyhood vile fan so wouldn’t start him Saturday

Maybe push Bueno or RAN further forward??

Bueno Chiwome Sarabia
RAN Lemina Gomes Semedo
Toti Dawson Kilman
Sa

I think Bueno used to be a winger in his younger years

 

[Golden Arrow]

Those were the days, Scott Voice, Glenn Crowe, Colin Taylor, Mark Jones…

Adam Proudlock

 

[JOSWolf]

Adam Proudlock

Leadbeater

 

[SuperGran]

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Fraser is a boyhood vile fan so wouldn’t start him Saturday

Maybe push Bueno or RAN further forward??

Bueno Chiwome Sarabia
RAN Lemina Gomes Semedo
Toti Dawson Kilman
Sa

I think Bueno used to be a winger in his younger years

What difference does who he supported as a kid make?

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

What difference does who he supported as a kid make?

The occasion will affect him negatively?

 

[SuperGran]

Kilman grew up a Chelsea fan should he have not played ?

 

[Timberwolf]

Exactly this. 6 weeks ago people were falling over themselves for Fraser then he had two average performances and folk were saying he’s not the level and never will be.

Both of them are very young and inexperienced and require time and patience to develop. In an ideal world neither would be anywhere near our first team right now and would be out on loan and getting game time without the additional pressure

Do you not remember ‘Danny Batth a future England captain’ posts? As it was, as it is, as it ever will be

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Kilman grew up a Chelsea fan should he have not played ?

Bit different when a player is so young and has someone else breathing down his throat for his place. The occasion would be too big for him. If chelsea wanna buy Kilman crack on and get rid of him he can live his dream

 

[Olivergoldblack]

Adam Proudlock

Gosh he was dross. That Colin Lee era was depressing

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

The occasion will affect him negatively?

Why would it though?

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Do you not remember ‘Danny Batth a future England captain’ posts? As it was, as it is, as it ever will be

We love to take a kid from “zero to hero” and back down again on a game by game basis. Some of the stuff about Fraser after his first game compared to the stuff after Coventry is laughably awful. They’re young kids who will have dips. Someone compared Fraser to Ferguson at Brighton ages ago with the old “if you’re good enough you’re old enough bit”, kids gone 18 games now without scoring.

 

[Premier Quality]

We love to take a kid from “zero to hero” and back down again on a game by game basis. Some of the stuff about Fraser after his first game compared to the stuff after Coventry is laughably awful. They’re young kids who will have dips. Someone compared Fraser to Ferguson at Brighton ages ago with the old “if you’re good enough you’re old enough bit”, kids gone 18 games now without scoring.

I think that was Jos - and it’s not like he’s known for hyperbole….

 

[Mugwump]

People forgetting Colin Larkin

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Why would it though?

First of all many prefer Chiwome after the Cov game so taking Fraser out of the firing line may help

Then add it’s his boyhood club he will feel the pressure being young and making start against the 1982 champions.

Throw in Leon Chiwome for 60 mins he’s much faster than Fraser who comes deep. Against a high line it’s hard to argue to start Fraser who I rate highly.

Certain players are made for certain games

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I think that was Jos - and it’s not like he’s known for hyperbole….

It was, I just didn’t want to name check him!

 

[lets all have a disco]

We love to take a kid from “zero to hero” and back down again on a game by game basis. Some of the stuff about Fraser after his first game compared to the stuff after Coventry is laughably awful. They’re young kids who will have dips. Someone compared Fraser to Ferguson at Brighton ages ago with the old “if you’re good enough you’re old enough bit”, kids gone 18 games now without scoring.

I predicted this when everybody was saying give Fraser a chance in January and don't sign anyone....I said we would more likely break him , than develop him......it's funny can't see the same ones saying give him a chance are the ones writing him off.....no balance with some..

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

First of all many prefer Chiwome after the Cov game so taking Fraser out of the firing line may help

Then add it’s his boyhood club he will feel the pressure being young and making start against the 1982 champions.

Throw in Leon Chiwome for 60 mins he’s much faster than Fraser who comes deep. Against a high line it’s hard to argue to start Fraser who I rate highly.

Certain players are made for certain games

At his age and experience I’d argue he’ll feel the pressure regardless of who we play. He’s got one senior game under his belt.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I predicted this when everybody was saying give Fraser a chance in January and don't sign anyone....I said we would more likely break him , than develop him......it's funny can't see the same ones saying give him a chance are the ones writing him off.....no balance with some..

I said at the time having watched him a lot in the under 23s that he wasn’t anywhere near ready. In fairness so did the club as he was going to Shrewsbury and even at that level I doubt very much he was guaranteed to start. Anyone who watches under 23 football regularly knows the gap to the seniors is absolutely massive.

 

[lets all have a disco]

I said at the time having watched him a lot in the under 23s that he wasn’t anywhere near ready. In fairness so did the club as he was going to Shrewsbury and even at that level I doubt very much he was guaranteed to start. Anyone who watches under 23 football regularly knows the gap to the seniors is absolutely massive.

Said exactly the same...you don't dip your toe in senior football at premier league level....

But what the club they supported has got to do with anything is laughable....deary me....if Fraser is anything like the local Wolverhampton villa fans I nw...he has probably never been near Villa park...one at my work was singing to me last May about travelling round Europe...he day even go against Ajax at home.....

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Aid exactly the same...you don't dip your toe in senior football at premier league level....

But what the club they supported has got to do with anything is laughable....deary me....if Fraser is anything like the local Wolverhampton villa fans I nw...he has probably never been near Villa park...one at my work was singing to me last may about travelling round Europe...he day even go against Ajax at home.....

I think you’ve just summed up villa fans in general!! My local pub is a real pub for locals, the sort where everyone knows everyone and anyone new walks in and it goes silent. Drank there with the same lads for 25 plus years, only the last two seasons have I known that there’s a handful of villa in there. Never opened their mouths before and now they’re like a Brummie Brazil. We’ve got a huge WhatsApp group that covers a horse racing nap and it’s all they bang on about now yet not one of them sets foot in Seal Park

 

[lets all have a disco]

I think you’ve just summed up villa fans in general!! My local pub is a real pub for locals, the sort where everyone knows everyone and anyone new walks in and it goes silent. Drank there with the same lads for 25 plus years, only the last two seasons have I known that there’s a handful of villa in there. Never opened their mouths before and now they’re like a Brummie Brazil. We’ve got a huge WhatsApp group that covers a horse racing nap and it’s all they bang on about now yet not one of them sets foot in Seal Park

Said before.....I always use the same line with em Villa fans ......There always come up to ya ....Villa fan I am , biggest club in the Midlands blah blah......I say "who ya got Saturday chap"......ooh "I dunno".... "Massive fan then, .well off ya trot then.........works 98% of the time.......

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Said before.....I always use the same line with em Villa fans ......There always come up to ya ....Villa fan I am , biggest club in the Midlands blah blah......I say "who ya got Saturday chap"......ooh "I dunno".... "Massive fan then, .well off ya trot then.........works 98% of the time.......

The guvnor of the aforementioned pub outed himself as a Villa fan two seasons ago, he’s been there 10 years and I never heard him mention it before. He didn’t like it when I told him the last time he went to Villa park he had a fringe (he now looks like a boiled egg)

 

[lets all have a disco]

The guvnor of the aforementioned pub outed himself as a Villa fan two seasons ago, he’s been there 10 years and I never heard him mention it before. He didn’t like it when I told him the last time he went to Villa park he had a fringe (he now looks like a boiled egg)

I played at villa park about 12 years ago for a vets team in a charity game...we lost 3-2 , it was my fault the one goal we let in......