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Grealish won’t be leaving City for at least 3 seasons
Who will want him in 3 years. He will be 31 with no resale value. Pep won’t pick him at the moment. Ridiculous purchase in the first place


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Who will want him in 3 years. He will be 31 with no resale value. Pep won’t pick him at the moment. Ridiculous purchase in the first place


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It was always going to catch up with them. They've been spending like drunken sailors since the Grealish money and Villa fans seem to think this could carry on forever and this was the start of their golden age of fighting for the title and regular Champions League football.

I wonder how Emery will react to having to sell and not being able to buy? his stock is sky high atm, will he want to sty with them reverting to the mean?
 

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It was always going to catch up with them. They've been spending like drunken sailors since the Grealish money and Villa fans seem to think this could carry on forever and this was the start of their golden age of fighting for the title and regular Champions League football.

I wonder how Emery will react to having to sell and not being able to buy? his stock is sky high atm, will he want to sty with them reverting to the mean?
Villa always get buyers for their players though: Grealish, Chukwuemeka and Archer have gone for very respectable sums and Ramsey has shown far more than the latter two in the PL.

The part that makes me wonder is the squad cost/revenue ratio since Villa hand out VERY generous contracts.
 

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Who will want him in 3 years. He will be 31 with no resale value. Pep won’t pick him at the moment. Ridiculous purchase in the first place


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You’ve answered your own question. Villa were probably the prime people to buy him and they’re skint. His wages are an absolute killer for most clubs plus city will want a sizeable fee. Those reasons alone are why he won’t be leaving city.
 

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Villa always get buyers for their players though: Grealish, Chukwuemeka and Archer have gone for very respectable sums and Ramsey has shown far more than the latter two in the PL.

The part that makes me wonder is the squad cost/revenue ratio since Villa hand out VERY generous contracts.
The last part is key. As you say they’ve got some good returns on selling homegrown players but their wage bill is absolutely huge. They could well struggle to move a few of those on for sure. An example, They made a big thing about getting Kamara and Tielemans on a free but because they came on a free they are on massive wages, shifting them on will be a real task.
 

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The last part is key. As you say they’ve got some good returns on selling homegrown players but their wage bill is absolutely huge. They could well struggle to move a few of those on for sure. An example, They made a big thing about getting Kamara and Tielemans on a free but because they came on a free they are on massive wages, shifting them on will be a real task.
Are you implying Kamara turned down a move to the Spanish champions Atletico Madrid not due to being excited at the prospect of being under the tutelage of the genius Stevie G but for money?!! :rage:

They won the European Cup in 1982 in case you didn't know. :triumph:
 

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Are you implying Kamara turned down a move to the Spanish champions Atletico Madrid not due to being excited at the prospect of being under the tutelage of the genius Stevie G but for money?!! :rage:

They won the European Cup in 1982 in case you didn't know. :triumph:
Exactly mate, him and Tielemans (who supposedly rejected Arsenal) are probably on £400k a week between them or not far off. They’ve chucked wages at players. Carlos and Torres won’t be cheap either! Martinez got a big bumper new deal after the World Cup. They’ll definitely have to trim the wage bill in the summer as it’s a big squad as well
 

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Are you implying Kamara turned down a move to the Spanish champions Atletico Madrid not due to being excited at the prospect of being under the tutelage of the genius Stevie G but for money?!! :rage:

They won the European Cup in 1982 in case you didn't know. :triumph:
I missed Coutinho off my list, he’s still got 2 1/2 years left on his huge contract
 

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Interesting quote from Gon. ;"We could afford wages but some of the fees – obligations, loan fees, penalties for people not playing – were too much of a hurdle for us. We couldn’t get anything done.”
Penalties for people not playing??

 

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Interesting quote from Gon. ;"We could afford wages but some of the fees – obligations, loan fees, penalties for people not playing – were too much of a hurdle for us. We couldn’t get anything done.”
Penalties for people not playing??

Broja to Fulham had a £750k loan fee and a £4m penalty if he doesn't play a required number of games. Might be in reference to that.
 

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Interesting quote from Gon. ;"We could afford wages but some of the fees – obligations, loan fees, penalties for people not playing – were too much of a hurdle for us. We couldn’t get anything done.”
Penalties for people not playing??

Exactly, imagine taking on a player who's in **** form and being forced to play him. I think Gary would be less happy about that than not having anyone at all.
 

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Interesting quote from Gon. ;"We could afford wages but some of the fees – obligations, loan fees, penalties for people not playing – were too much of a hurdle for us. We couldn’t get anything done.”
Penalties for people not playing??

I think that’s the point unfortunately. Too often fans see £x transfer fee and £x wages when there’s far far more to a deal. Loan deals are a minefield now because more players are on loan than ever before and parent clubs try their best to eke out as much money as possible. Wasn’t Trincao’s loan fee to us £4 million plus his wages? Madness
 

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Broja to Fulham had a £750k loan fee and a £4m penalty if he doesn't play a required number of games. Might be in reference to that.
The reports I have read have said a loan fee of 4 million so are you saying that he played the required number of games he would only have incurred a fee of 750k?
 

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I think that’s the point unfortunately. Too often fans see £x transfer fee and £x wages when there’s far far more to a deal. Loan deals are a minefield now because more players are on loan than ever before and parent clubs try their best to eke out as much money as possible. Wasn’t Trincao’s loan fee to us £4 million plus his wages? Madness
Sellars arranged that deal with mendes. Trincao then went to sporting Lisbon for 12 million. Barcelona wanted 27 million off us for trincao originally. No mad mendes.
 

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I think that’s the point unfortunately. Too often fans see £x transfer fee and £x wages when there’s far far more to a deal. Loan deals are a minefield now because more players are on loan than ever before and parent clubs try their best to eke out as much money as possible. Wasn’t Trincao’s loan fee to us £4 million plus his wages? Madness
Mendes pulled our pants down and went in dry with that deal.
 

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Mendes pulled our pants down and went in dry with that deal.
Remember the excitement we had when he signed? That disappeared rapidly once we’d seen him play! Heart of a pea. He made Guedes look like a harder version of Vinny Jones. Absolute fraud he was.
 

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Remember the excitement we had when he signed? That disappeared rapidly once we’d seen him play! Heart of a pea. He made Guedes look like a harder version of Vinny Jones. Absolute fraud he was.
Trincao was pretty **** but at least we were able to give him back!
 

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Second time his agent has been the reason a move to the Prem has fallen through (us and West Ham in the summer).

I'd be sacking him on the spot.

Yuri needs to be getting some new agents. Wrecked his move to the premier league.

Now I might be wrong but, i'm very certain said agent owns half of the player, I dont think the player has much of a choice. Like I said Brazil is a cess pit for this sort of stuff
 

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Who will want him in 3 years. He will be 31 with no resale value. Pep won’t pick him at the moment. Ridiculous purchase in the first place


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In the last 9 months Grealish has started in, and won, a champions league final, an FA Cup final, a European super cup final and a world club championship final as well as playing nearly 30 Premier league games last season and winning that as well.

Hardly a ridiculous purchase.
 

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RAN is a backup at PSG, Nuno Mendes is unreal. I could definitely see them wanting Neto though, especially with the Mendes ties.

Nuno Mendes is excellent but seems like he is injured a fair bit though.
 

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Jessie Lingard signing for a club in South Korea. Probably the low point of the summer was being linked with him.
 

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In the last 9 months Grealish has started in, and won, a champions league final, an FA Cup final, a European super cup final and a world club championship final as well as playing nearly 30 Premier league games last season and winning that as well.

Hardly a ridiculous purchase.
The 100m was way too much
 

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The 100m was way too much
That was the release clause though, I’m pretty certain after the season they had last year and the part Grealish played in it, City will be happy with the buy.

City’s net spend the summer they bought Grealish (2 and half years ago) was about 41 mil which is **** all really.

Compared to several players recently signed by Chelsea, Man U etc, whove achieved nothing, the fee doesn’t look that bad to me to be honest.
 
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