How corrupt is football?

[JOSWolf]

As definitive as it gets. So poor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611861907207585792

Absolute disgrace. **** off ITV with all of your excuses and bull**** after the game. We all know!

 

[FJRWolf]

I’m really struggling to understand this.

I’ve just watched this again.

From the corner, there are 2 Wolves headers. Both of these were played backwards.

So, Nunes cannot be offside? Or am I missing something?

He can be offside when the ball is knocked backwards if he is coming back from an offside position.......he wasn't however coming back from an offside position, lino got it wrong but they 'didn't have a camera angle' to prove it.

 

[Hawkguy]

Nevermind

Are you talking about Rounders? Because it's really quite different..

 

[JOSWolf]

Liverpool should announce we won that game and do the honourable thing. What an absolute farce and disgrace our great game has become. Officials of our game hang your heads in shame.

 

[Kcb92]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611851484341092352

 

[JOSWolf]

Best I could do

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Wow. A real pity biased ITV couldnt show this after the game. What a shock.

 

[RMNottm]

How can VAR in F A cup games, only be used in premier league grounds?
Either it should be used in all F A cup games or non?

Well that would have changed nothing

 

[I'm the Wanderer]

Are you talking about Rounders? Because it's really quite different..

No. Someone here said i said something about Americanisms because I said "out of bounds". Long story, nevermind.

 

[maws]

If only we could hear what’s said on VAR, I’m sure it would be insightful

 

[JOSWolf]

Oh well. A few grudge matches against LIVARpool coming up. Get at the ****ers lads.

 

[I'm the Wanderer]

Liverpool should announce we won that game and do the honourable thing. What an absolute farce and disgrace our great game has become. Officials of our game hang your heads in shame.

Liverpool and honor is akin to shi.... and the smell of roses.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Amazing isn’t it there’s now video now of it!!!!!!

Liverpool were on the other side of a similar failure earlier in the season at the Emirates. Saka was later found to be offside in the build up to a goal, but during the game, there wasn’t a clear VAR camera angle, so VAR went with the assistant’s call, as they did today. In that case, the assistant didn’t flag it offside, so the Arsenal goal stood.

Error stopped VAR looking at possible Saka offside in Arsenal vs Liverpool

Arsenal's first goal against Liverpool was given, even though Saka appeared to be in a possible offside position in the build-up

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Seems to me that VAR isn’t as foolproof on offside calls as they often try to make out. Worse than that, they know it.

It also suggests that the assistant who flagged at Anfield needs disciplinary action.

 

[Plastic Shrapnel]

Ooh look, you can see the corner of the pitch.

He's onside.

 

[JOSWolf]

The Beeb just showed a camera angle further back that clearly shows the corner of the pitch, he was onside.

A shame the ****wits showing our game couldnt do this.

 

[JOSWolf]

If only we could hear what’s said on VAR, I’m sure it would be insightful

There is no accountability and it stinks.

 

[JOSWolf]

Liverpool and honor is akin to shi.... and the smell of roses.

Very true. Hope we take the ****ers to the cleaners when we play them next.

 

[Jefe]

Liverpool were on the other side of a similar failure earlier in the season at the Emirates. Saka was later found to be offside in the build up to a goal, but during the game, there wasn’t a clear VAR camera angle, so VAR went with the assistant’s call, as they did today. In that case, the assistant didn’t flag it offside, so the Arsenal goal stood.

Error stopped VAR looking at possible Saka offside in Arsenal vs Liverpool

Arsenal's first goal against Liverpool was given, even though Saka appeared to be in a possible offside position in the build-up

www.football.london

Seems to me that VAR isn’t as foolproof on offside calls as they often try to make out. Worse than that, they know it.

It also suggests that the assistant who flagged at Anfield needs disciplinary action.

I think if VAR is going to be widely accepted as credible for onside, there must be permanent camera fixtures in the final third at either end, in every PL ground. There is absolutely no excuse not to.

 

[Plastic Shrapnel]

Why aren't we using the system in place from the World Cup?

Seemed pretty decent to me.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

I think if VAR is going to be widely accepted as credible for onside, there must be permanent camera fixtures in the final third at either end, in every PL ground. There is absolutely no excuse not to.

In every ground where it’s used, there really should be VAR camera angles covering the entirety of the pitch, capable of having the offside lines applied. The fact there appear to be situations where there are not is seriously worrying and undermines what little integrity VAR still has. I actually don’t find it credible that there are areas of the pitch where this is not possible, but I can’t be bothered to dig through all the VAR decisions at Anfield to try and find examples where players in the corner areas were able to be checked.

 

[Wolf316]

Why aren't we using the system in place from the World Cup?

Seemed pretty decent to me.

Because that wouldn’t favour the big six.

 

[thetwistedsock]

In every ground where it’s used, there really should be VAR camera angles covering the entirety of the pitch, capable of having the offside lines applied. The fact there appear to be situations where there are not is seriously worrying and undermines what little integrity VAR still has. I actually don’t find it credible that there are areas of the pitch where this is not possible, but I can’t be bothered to dig through all the VAR decisions at Anfield to try and find examples where players in the corner areas were able to be checked.

At the world cup they had submit subtle measurements along the side of the pitch for making pitch straight line measurements.

 

[Wolf 82]

They both infuriate me.. but the Salah one probably more. How can he not be interfering with play if Toti’s actions are entirely because of him.. if that’s the actual rules, they need changing.

Our goal.. well he looks onside, but there isn’t a definite angle.. so plausible deniability.

 

[glorybox]

Toti by playing the ball played him on. It's a rule! Toti wasn't offside, Nunes was when he got the ball back after taking the corner. Get your facts straight before starting a thread. It's been done to death on the Comms/verdict threads.

Do one.

 

[Incognito]

Toti by playing the ball played him on. It's a rule! Toti wasn't offside, Nunes was when he got the ball back after taking the corner. Get your facts straight before starting a thread. It's been done to death on the Comms/verdict threads.

Nunes is not offside. When the ball comes off Hwang's bonce, TAA is playing Nunes onside.

 

[glorybox]

I think it’s a lot tighter when Hwang heads the ball.

Based on Trent’s foot that’s closest to the byline, this is as good as I could do line wise.

Still onside though!!

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By a mile

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Just in from the game. Was brilliant and after the Jonny toenail and VVD basketball decisions I shouldn't be surprised, but it would be nice to come away from Anfield without feeling we've been robbed just once in the age of VAR.

I'm Mr Cautious on a goal celebration, always check the lino if in doubt, but there wasn't a thought in my mind of offside. Also when he gave it the whole bench seemed to know it was wrong.

To be fair it's not really the ref's fault, unlike countless fouls on our players he missed.

So it's all slightly spoiled what should have been a great evening. Still revenge will be sweet.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

Wheres @Hot Fuss to tell us there's no corruption
Normally all over it by page 1

 

[Bullyboy]

I'm so disgusted I can't sleep. Never did I think I could give up on football but God its getting close. I'm just sick n tired of the bias. #varout

 

[Fenrir_]

Wheres @Hot Fuss to tell us there's no corruption
Normally all over it by page 1

Still getting over the fact that Lage wasn't getting anything like the maximum out of the squad, need to give him time to deal with it

 

[Stourport wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611847787049799680

 

[Contrarian]

If that's offside, then 90% of goals scored in the second phase from corners are offside. Where is the corner taker supposed to go? Hang out in the bar for 10 minutes?

 

[sillytuna]

Watched the videos of various bits tonight - absolutely disgusting officiating. As for our non goal, the linesman didnt flag straight away so surely should have just left it to var? And as for var...

And the traore stamp, and salah's goal, and numerous blatent fouls missed. 3 games in the last 4 we've seen horrendous officiating.

 

[Incognito]

Game is corrupt to the core. It all starts with FIFA. On the bright side, all that corruption and LiVARpool's first 11, couldn't beat our boys, who made all of us of an old gold persuasion, so proud of our football club tonight. We MUST finish the job off at Molineux to ensure football is the winner.

 

[AntonusKlesk]

The real question is is there anything that can be done about the slew of awful, at best inept, at worst corrupt decisions from tonight?

It seems when these things happen there are no consequences, or route to pursue complaint. Unless that is possible behind closed doors by the club?

Tonight was a transparent farce. Thumb on the scale for Liverpool wherever it was deemed possible to get away with. Undermines the competition and makes the fans wonder what the point of showing up is if you're fighting an uphill battle against the officials.

I'm not aware of any action being taken around things like this in the upper leagues, but surely there is enough on show tonight, particularly with the other angles that have come to light since to warrant investigation and recompense.

 

[JohnB]

Bloody scousers nicked the VAR camera.

 

[Asthmatic Wolf]

Just seen the foul on Cunha at the end may have been a pen

 

[Asthmatic Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611847787049799680

Again, if the ref has told him to put the flag up, how do we know it’s in respect of Nunes (unless he told VAR that) - which is even worse because how the f would the ref have known anything about Nunes when the ball is being headed in the 6 yard box?

 

[Contrarian]

Just seen the foul on Cunha at the end may have been a pen

Was definitely a foul. Not given. We had 3 or 4 terrible decisions like that in the final 10 mins.

I thought the ref had done a decent job for most of the match, other than the odd Salah goal decision. But then that final 10 mins with the match at 2-2. He gave a blatant display of home team bias. We got nothing in that final 10 mins, he did everything he could to help Liverpool win.

If there's no bias, how come we are never ever discussing how Liverpool/Man Utd got some crucial decision against them while playing some underdog? Never. It's always a debatable decision in their favour.

 

[MrwulfAndrew]

Just got in, cheated. Sick to death about ****e officials. Its every week.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

It's disgusting the decisions tonight. Liverpool player has contact on the goal that got ruled out. Salah is offside for the ball to him. There are camers angles that can show the clear contact from a Liverpool player for our goal that got ruled out.