How corrupt is football?

[Matt]

Throw in the ****ing tv pundits too acting like it’s all fine and the correct decision was made. ****ing clowns.

 

[Jonzy54]

If there was ‘no camera’ how could Dean decide anyone was offside?

They went with the AR’s decision

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

Salad was offside in the build up but his goal was allowed to stand

Toti was offside in the build up but ours was disallowed

why?

corruption is the only word

Toti by playing the ball played him on. It's a rule! Toti wasn't offside, Nunes was when he got the ball back after taking the corner. Get your facts straight before starting a thread. It's been done to death on the Comms/verdict threads.

 

[Darvo]

They went with the AR’s decision

Which was wrong John ... cos both our headers from the corner played the ball backward. Watch it again. Or am I missing something?

 

[clivewolves]

I'm not one for conspiracy theories. I just want to know why there wasn't a camera angle showing it when in every Premier League ground there seem to be 2 or 3 angles VAR can use, but suddenly we don't have one.

How long wasn't it available? Just for that corner? For longer? The whole match? Was VAR available at the other end of the pitch? I don't want to put it down to corruption, but something has gone wrong just like that Hawkeye failure that happened at Villa a couple of years ago. The PGMOL needs to give a proper explanation.

 

[sedgwolf1980]

Toti by playing the ball played him on. It's a rule! Toti wasn't offside, Nunes was when he got the ball back after taking the corner. Get your facts straight before starting a thread. It's been done to death on the Comms/verdict thread

Nunes was not offside though. That’s the whole point.

 

[Wolves Heathen]

When the ball is played through to Salah in that instance Salah IS in an offside position, then Toti gets his head to it but it falls to Salah no Salah is not offside from Toti's touch, but he IS offside when that ball was first through to him, @Jonzy54 please explain how Dean allowed that goal to stand.
Our 3rd goal by Toti they say they had no camera angle on Nunes who was probably offside so they stay with the linesmans decision, I simply refuse to believe that when they have cameras covering everywhere with people picking there nose and scratching there ****.. VAR is either not fit for purpose or the people on VAR are biased....

 

[Mardenboroughs Shoulder]

Backwards doesn’t matter. I’m more annoyed about this no camera angle *******s.
Don’t get me started on the Salah goal, I know it’s the law but not convinced it’d be given the other end.

Absolutely it wouldn't be, they would say the player standing offside is interfering with play as the defender has to try to stop the ball reaching him.

 

[Sevenwolves]

You can see Nunes' head come into the picture as the ball is headed to him. Alexander Arnold is way closer to the goal.

ROBBED!

Collins header also went backwards so impossible for anyone to be offside!

 

[clivewolves]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611852292919017475

 

[IOMWolf]

The linesman flagged it and apparently because there was 'no camera', Dean couldn't overrule it, so had to stick with on field decision... conveniently.

Any views Hot Fuss?

 

[Darvo]

But there are literally dozens of cameras at games in fact one at Anfield a couple of seasons ago spotted Neto’s toe in an offside position. ****ing corruption pure and simple

But you don’t need any other camera angles to see that both our headers from the corner were backward. So, Nunes cannot be offside?

 

[Bryce]

No camera angle so let’s disallow a goal against a big six

Case proved your honour

 

[Tring Wolf]

So this is the moment, we first see Nunes come into the shot and is a fraction of a second after the ball comes off Hwang’s head.

Is TAA playing him on?

 

[Contrarian]

Apparently it was Nunes offside. Your point still stands though. No definitive camera angle my ****. Either we’ve got VAR or we haven’t.

Absolutely. We can't have VAR if the pitch can't be fully covered.

 

[SE10 Wolf]

= we cheated, but you can't prove it.

I think one might be able to. Tonight could be a turning point. I’ve had mad Red friends texting me saying they don’t know why offside was given.

 

[those were the days]

There has to be an investigation there. Surely. Panorama time. I'd also like to see retrospective action against Robertson, the little gob****e. Hurdling a player at a run and missing, vaguely understandable. Stepping over them slowly and missing, while one of your team-mates is already in attendance, is just trying to put the boot in someone on the sly.
Hope he falls down the stairs tonight.

Pretty sure Robertson’s studs on Traore wasn’t an ‘accident’. I wasn’t surprised VAR/Dean didn’t look at it.

 

[lostwolf]

The worst thing is we don't know why it was given offside. The crowd, the players, the viewers, we don't get an explanation! What other sport would fail to provide any transparency whatsoever? A joke.

The worst thing is VAR. It's a stiker of a joke. Kills the fun and doesn't even work. **** IT OFF NOW.

 

[JonahWolf]

Pretty sure Robertson’s studs on Traore wasn’t an ‘accident’. I wasn’t surprised VAR/Dean didn’t look at it.

It was nothing like an accident. As said, there wasn’t even any reason for him to be over there, never mind being in such a hurry that he HAD to ‘attempt’ to step over Traore and miss.
Genuinely wish him harm for that kind of snidey crap. Ideally Adama nails him in a perfectly fair 50/50 and it’s a season ender for him.
Guarantee that would be subject to closer look were the short colours reversed. Not like anyone can so easily bat away suggestion of VAR bias today is it?

 

[JamesWolves]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611847787049799680

interesting video

 

[Rhyl Wolf]

Hmmm..........

 

[Jawwfc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611851170192015360

Posted on this on the verdict thread.... to me Robertson looks where he is planting his feet and trys to make it look like an accident.

Hardly anything was mentioned on TV about this and it didn't have a VAR check despite the dangerous play.

If this had happened to Salah, Kane , Rashford etc there would be uproar.

 

[chignalwolf]

As ive said many times" its why VAR was introduced, to make sure the top 6 stay the top 6. completely corrupt

 

[DanishWolf]

The bias is obvious. Only question is why?
Is it blatant corruption or is it due to the more servere pressure on refs by the bigger clubs?

 

[GY Wolf]

The worst thing is VAR. It's a stiker of a joke. Kills the fun and doesn't even work. **** IT OFF NOW.

Agreed

 

[Wall heath Wanderer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611847787049799680

interesting video

So it would seem from that the ref had no clue wtf was going on and wanted the lino to flag in the hopes var would sort it out.

 

[WasStefan]

Definitely onside, this is the exact moment it hits Hwangs head. Why did they lie and say there wasnt a camera angle?

 

[manchesterwolf17]

It's one thing ruining the unmatched joy of seeing your team score a goal. But when you can't even get/guarantee correct decisions, what is the ****ing point?

It's unreal at times how we've let this happen. I'd give so much to have the real sport back. Genuine in the moment mistakes, it's part of the game. This *******s is the worst thing that's ever happened to football. And anyone who defends it in any capacity is part of the problem.

 

[bully9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611852292919017475

The lines **** was that far behind play it doesn’t matter

 

[goldfish]

The decision for Salah's goal was correct, even if you don't like the law. (I'm sure we benefitted from it a couple of seasons ago actually.)

The decision for Toti's looks wrong, but it's not Mike Dean's fault if there's no camera to check. (I don't think there were that many cameras: I couldn't believe we didn't get reaction shots of Klopp every five seconds).

 

[Jonzy54]

Which was wrong John ... cos both our headers from the corner played the ball backward. Watch it again. Or am I missing something?

I am not agreeing merely stating what they did

 

[those were the days]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611847787049799680

interesting video

Thought at the time the flag went up v late if it was for Nunes. What is the ref doing there? Odd.

The Nunes explanation smells like searching for a justification after the event, since it would be clearly inconsistent to give the Salah one and not the Toti one which is what I think they flagged for

 

[WasStefan]

The decision for Salah's goal was correct, even if you don't like the law. (I'm sure we benefitted from it a couple of seasons ago actually.)

The decision for Toti's looks wrong, but it's not Mike Dean's fault if there's no camera to check. (I don't think there were that many cameras: I couldn't believe we didn't get reaction shots of Klopp every five seconds).

It changed this year:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611848304593076225

 

[Darvo]

I am not agreeing merely stating what they did

I was looking to your knowledge of the rules. If both our headers are backwards (which I think are), then Nunes cannot be offside?

 

[Hawkguy]

Salad was offside in the build up but his goal was allowed to stand

Toti was offside in the build up but ours was disallowed

why?

corruption is the only word

Well, the first one is a rule. A stupid rule, but a rule.

The second one? I have no ****ing clue.

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Extremely. Just surprised anyone would argue it isn't.

 

[WasStefan]

I was looking to your knowledge of the rules. If both our headers are backwards (which I think are), then Nunes cannot be offside?

Misconception. The player receiving has to behind the ball, nothing to do with ball direction. You can be offside having received a pass played backwards

 

[maws]

How that linesman knew the ball came off a wolves player from the corner? He’s no clue he’s guessing, it’s cheating

 

[Fenrir_]

It changed this year:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1611848304593076225

I thought I'd seen something about it changing to stop messes like tonight. Clearly Mike Dean didn't bother with the new handbook

 

[Darvo]

Misconception. The player receiving has to behind the ball, nothing to do with ball direction. You can be offside having received a pass played backwards

Thanks.