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Gary O'Neil on Monday night football

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Just reading on wiki that his 9 year old son is in AFC Wimbledon's academy. Does anyone know if he is commuting up from London or has he relocated to closer?
 
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Bournemouth fans starting to reconsider their assessment of Gary as a PE Teacher after watching Sky tonight.

Gary O'Neil

In terms of how much was paid for them or their actual value in terms of talent? I have no idea how much any of them cost to be honest. Well, he was talking about how much the clubs had spent.
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That was really interesting!
 
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Bostin said:
I like to think I’ve got a good understanding of football, but that just goes to show that the majority of us haven’t got a clue.

Quality insight that is
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It made it fairly stark how little any of us laymen really know about modern football tactics, yet we think we can tell managers how to play the game

I was alright when they just gorrit in the mixer
 
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Its good PR. Comes across well but lets not pretend that this is just GON, every premier league manager will have plans/coaching sessions/video sessions like this. Its whether they work thats the crux of it.
 
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Not all of us
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I wasn't anti Gary till the Luton game when I admit I got emotional and for that week I was.

Odd really as I continually backed Lage.

I can only attribute it to how disappointed I was to lose Lopetegui but as Hobbs said in his interview that was never Gary's fault.

Gary as he said on MNF has now banked some credit, I hope the club back him in January and I'm interested to see what he does.

Where does he feel the need to strengthen now?
 
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Not denigrating O’Neil at all, but what did we expect?

This is a manager in the toughest league in world football.

He is going to know more than a bunch of posters on a football forum.

Hell, l would even venture that Lage knows more about football than all of us combined.

Controversial amirite?
 
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Oliwolf44 said:
Its good PR. Comes across well but lets not pretend that this is just GON, every premier league manager will have plans/coaching sessions/video sessions like this. Its whether they work thats the crux of it.
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Not a fan then Oli ??
 
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To be fair, I’ve been more impressed with him since the Citeh post-match presser on youtube - it’s around 12 minutes ish from memory - look up BeanymanSports if you haven’t seen it - he talked a lot of sense about how we set up for the game - not just about counter attacking.

To be perfectly honest though, I think we’re all just bloody relieved that he’s actually just - you know…. a football manager - and he’s not Mike Bassett! I’m still holding reservations for now that he’s some sort of tactical genius, some even saying he is a future England manager - in the words of Winston Wolf…. “Let’s not start sucking each other‘s dick’s just yet”…

Yes, he’s pulled off 3 great results out of the last 3 games, and I’m starting to believe maybe he was a good appointment - and let’s face it - JL was going regardless, and we needed someone in anyway.

But our expectations were about as low as they could get, so it’s not hard to see how we’re all now thinking he’s Ancelotti :D
 
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Oliwolf44 said:
Its good PR. Comes across well but lets not pretend that this is just GON, every premier league manager will have plans/coaching sessions/video sessions like this. Its whether they work thats the crux of it.
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There's a good video of Dyche explaining his 4-4-2 on YouTube. You're right that a lot of managers can do this...that said I think GON is particularly good at it.
 
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Oliwolf44 said:
Its good PR. Comes across well but lets not pretend that this is just GON, every premier league manager will have plans/coaching sessions/video sessions like this. Its whether they work thats the crux of it.
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That might be true, but look at the response on social media from fans of other clubs, journalists, and people who work in football. Across the board, pretty much everyone agrees it's some of the best, if not the best, insight from any pundit / player / manager that they have seen on Sky Sports. That doesn't mean of course that he's the greatest ever coach but it does show that he has excellent ideas and is very good at communicating them. A massive part of coaching and management is being able to communicate clearly what you what to do to the players. Even seen some cheeky comments that he's too good for Wolves and that we won't keep hold pf him for long :D
 
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Axle said:
Not denigrating O’Neil at all, but what did we expect?

This is a manager in the toughest league in world football.

He is going to know more than a bunch of posters on a football forum.

Hell, l would even venture that Lage knows more about football than all of us combined.

Controversial amirite?
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Don’t think that’s quite fair, he said when he came in it took a while for the players to get used to the level of detail he went into; that they were used to more freedom once they got on the pitch.

Managers definitely differ in that regard.
 
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Key bit seems to be that the players are starting to see fruition from his ideas and prep - hopefully this'll continue and we'll potentially go from strength to strength. As some others have said, sorry for doubting you Gary! :)
 
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brianm said:
There's a good video of Dyche explaining his 4-4-2 on YouTube. You're right that a lot of managers can do this...that said I think GON is particularly good at it.
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It’s the ability to make the complex appear simple to the listener that distinguishes the bad from the good and the good from the great managers. If us mixers understand what he’s trying to achieve then you can be sure that the players do.

All managers have had the same training and coaching, they’ll understand the ins and outs of the game it’s the ability to put what they are trying to achieve into practice. Also the ability to create a formation that minimises a players weaknesses and maximises their strengths is a fundamental skill that distinguishes the average from the great. Lage may have had a good understanding of what he wanted to achieve but he would use 15 words when 1 was sufficient.
 
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Bawtry Wolf said:
It’s the ability to make the complex appear simple to the listener that distinguishes the bad from the good and the good from the great managers. If us mixers understand what he’s trying to achieve then you can be sure that the players do.

All managers have had the same training and coaching, they’ll understand the ins and outs of the game it’s the ability to put what they are trying to achieve into practice. Also the ability to create a formation that minimises a players weaknesses and maximises their strengths is a fundamental skill that distinguishes the average from the great. Lage may have had a good understanding of what he wanted to achieve but he would use 15 words when 1 was sufficient.
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Interesting
 
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Axle said:
Not denigrating O’Neil at all, but what did we expect?

This is a manager in the toughest league in world football.

He is going to know more than a bunch of posters on a football forum.

Hell, l would even venture that Lage knows more about football than all of us combined.

Controversial amirite?
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I think Lage's number one problem was communicating what he wanted and expected from his players.

Besides the language barrier, I don't think that Lage was a gifted communicator. I got the impression that he was a Mr Confusion.
 
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