Exactly this. It’s easy to analyse a game in isolation. On that basis I’m calling it, Pep is useless as we’ve frequently beat his City team. Also Alex Ferguson was useless as we beat his team under DJ
Alex Ferguson was one game away from the sack at United until Mark Robbins saved him, that’s football.
Yes but if you don't carry on spending and developing the stadium and infrastructure you stand still .
And Major Buckley was **** poor because he lost the 1939 Cup Final to Portsmouth 4-1 yet finished 2nd in the League.
Don’t get me started on Major Buckley. Brylcreem-haired, PE teacher’s assistant‘s helper. Wouldn’t have survived in this day and age.
It’s actually worth quite a lot.
And what about ****ing Fred Scotchbrook, it's taken a ****ing century to get him out of my system what with his ****ing 235 system and his ****ing pipe. *******!
Actually, this is huge - if the players play for him, then that's half the battle. The ManCity win was huge because they bought into his plans and it worked. That will garner lots of respect and trust from the squad.
A voice of optimism bias, you mean. I don't see much reason in the idea that our rookie manager has done roughly as good a job as our departed, European trophy-winning manager would have with the same group; that's one of the silliest suggestions I've read on here all season. Apparently, it was just a couple of late goals against Liverpool - we'd played them to a standstill for the preceding 40 minutes of the half. Gimme a break. It was just a 10 minute blip against Brighton. And we outplayed United, don't forget ... who have been outplayed by almost every side they've played since...
From your negative bias, that may be how it seems to you. I've tried to be pretty balanced in my posts. If you've seen from the very beginning, I was not for his appointment and did not vote "yes" in the poll; however, I'm much more willing to give him some time to figure things out--just because one might be ****ed at Fosun/Shi/Hobbs for where we are, doesn't mean you don't give someone a fair shake at the job. I've called out the games where I think that we were poor (Brighton-6th, Crystal Palace-9th, Luton*-17th, and Everton-16th) and the ones where I think that we played pretty well (ManU-10th, ManCity-3rd, Liverpool-4th, and Villa-5th). Yes, some good and some bad. Given the circumstances, 8 points from 8 games is not bad. Like I said, I'm not sure about his future, so let's see what the next few games bring.
Ah, but you didn't specify a "sulking" JL, did you. He quit because his working conditions became untenable. If in your alternate reality he were happy to remain under those conditions, then it stands to reason he'd not be sulking, no? (After all, GON isn't optimally happy with his working conditions, either) Then, the simple truth that JL is a better and more experienced manager would surely be decisive in any head-to-head comparison. Naturally, Lop would be delighted with a win against City, probably satisfied with a home point from Vile, but I don't believe he'd be happy with 1 PPG from these fixtures in all (particularly taking only a point from Palace and Luton). He'd be fuming with 2 GA per game and the numerous defensive collapses that have occurred.
That's fair and about where l'm now at. He has certainly shown some ability.
Yep he’s certainly earned some credit so let’s see what he can do going forward.
With all due respect anybody who uses italics on a football forum is a ****ing ****
Cutting edge debate right there.
Are you high, mate?
Standing still in the Prem is better than being in league One.
Loppys team’s performances away from home were pretty much absolute gash for 6 months, with a better squad.
People also neglect/ignore that in the games you mention the only goal against Chelsea was scored by Nunes, the only goal against Spurs by Adama and MOTM in the Liverpool game was Neves. All gone. Throw in the Podence goals to get 5 points against West Ham, Forest and Villa.
Ok, so now we cannot give credit to the former manager for using the players he had who aren’t here any more…..my word…. Squads change…… so now a manager from the past cannot get credit because a player is no longer there?
Of course you can give him credit if you want. I just find it a bit odd on a Gary O’Neil thread that you’re still desperate to bang on about what Loppy did with a different squad.
class is permanent, form is temporary.
Thats an extreme comment over the use of Italics.
I love the way the manager has got Neto going again. Obviously he is getting fully fit but I think the manager has a lot to do with Netos upturn in form. Full belief in what Neto has & how to get the best out of him.... How was Neto finding the form that has largely eluded him since his first serious injury in April 2021?Wolverhampton Wanderers - BBC Sport
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"Try to arrive in the penalty area more. When he gets someone one-v-one, let's go - don't turn it down, let's go." O'Neil was speaking very fast at this point as if, instead of the radio reporters huddled around, he could see Neto running in front of him. "Every single time. Don't care if you lose it - test him. Let's go."
Defenders have to get it right every time - Neto only needs to get lucky once....
But it's a run for a reason. "He knows that Channy [Hwang] is going to arrive in the penalty area for him." And the instructions to Hwang? "Just be ready, be ready to arrive in the goal, because balls are going to come across, and you're going to have a big chance to score again."
Because GO has made barbed and obvious pot shots at JL’s coaching and tactics from last season as why he is struggling and making bad decisions……..
Neto was bang in form like this for Portugal in the summer……. He was sensational in their games and was very good against England and extremely unlucky not to score.
He said the players weren’t at the fitness levels he requires. Now the stats say collectively and individually the players are running further than under JL so I’d say that’s a valid thing to say and not a “barbed and obvious pot shot”
If GON turns out to be our Alex Ferguson then I’ll be delighted.
We all know what he meant and it was definitely an obvious potshot at Lop.
Are you saying the previous manager didn’t have belief in Neto and didn’t know how to get the best out of him but GON does?
He clearly won’t. However my point was don’t write off a manager who is “close to the sack”
I can only speak for myself and say I didn’t see it as a pop shot or indeed an excuse. The stats don’t lie, they are running further so that will require a different level of fitness.
The comments about them being lose and
