Fabio Silva watch

[Rowzed]

If he goes away for a year and comes back two years older I'd be concerned...

they’ve got form for that sort of thing the Dutch

That Van Gogh had 2 years when he was loaned out and only one when he came back, so perhaps Fabio will have an extra ear when he returns, like Davy Crockett

 

[Contrarian]

The point I'm making is for half a season Silva may play a part in perhaps 2 games which are somewhere near Prem standard. All the other games will be like playing Champs/ Lg 1 clubs so I do wonder, apart from some minutes on the pitch, what he will get out of it assuming he will come back here to be one of our 3 strikers next season?

Development. Most /every skill, you learn by starting in the shallow end and moving towards the deep end as you learn and gain confidence. Fabio was thrown in the deep end for us. He now appears to be learning and developing the skills needed. Seems faster, stronger and sharper in the 6 months away. For compariston, he played against West Ham last season for us, and again for Anderlecht recently and West Ham fans (and anybody who saw both matches) noted that he's made a big improvement in that 6 months. Not sure he would have progressed so far if he'd stayed. Learning is about making mistakes as you learn how to overcome them. He just wouldn't have that leeway in struggling Premier League club,

 

[O Lobo do Parque Leste]

Wow... I'll just leave this here.

"Cannot accept lies" - Wolves player's father hits out at media, says club "made it difficult" to leave in January - Sport Witness

Wolverhampton Wanderers striker Fábio Silva’s ended his temporary stay at Anderlecht in January and then completed a loan move to PSV Eindhoven the same month. The 20-year-old struggled for regular game time last season, which saw the English side send him out on loan to the Belgian club. He had...

sportwitness.co.uk

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Wow... I'll just leave this here.

"Cannot accept lies" - Wolves player's father hits out at media, says club "made it difficult" to leave in January - Sport Witness

Wolverhampton Wanderers striker Fábio Silva’s ended his temporary stay at Anderlecht in January and then completed a loan move to PSV Eindhoven the same month. The 20-year-old struggled for regular game time last season, which saw the English side send him out on loan to the Belgian club. He had...

sportwitness.co.uk

Cheers, was just reading it. Just for those who are going by the headline, the lies and difficulty in leaving all refer to how Anderlecht treated him, their change of coach obviously messed up his situation there. Shi needed convincing to let Fabio go on loan in the first place, although maybe it's telling that Lopetegui didn't get him back.

 

[SA Wolf]

Interesting.... Silva Sr reveals Anderlecht wanted to build a team around his son.

I understood that he would only be at Anderlecht for a season at most (on loan). You don't build a team around a loanee, unless there is more to this than meets the eye!

 

[oldgolded]

Have just seen this and it makes for interesting reading. Difficult to interpret exactly where he is coming from, but he does not appear to be happy. I have thought for a while, but have not mentioned it before, that we may not see Fabio in a Wolves shirt again.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Have just seen this and it makes for interesting reading. Difficult to interpret exactly where he is coming from, but he does not appear to be happy. I have thought for a while, but have not mentioned it before, that we may not see Fabio in a Wolves shirt again.

Can't really see he has anything to be unhappy with Wolves about. Basically his Dad now seems to be overseeing his development while Wolves continue to ensure that he receives a salary beyond (in all honesty) anything he has really been shown to justify. Hope it comes good for him and he comes back, if not then I hope we get some return on the £50m plus we've invested in him.

 

[Fenrir_]

Can't really see he has anything to be unhappy with Wolves about. Basically his Dad now seems to be overseeing his development while Wolves continue to ensure that he receives a salary beyond (in all honesty) anything he has really been shown to justify. Hope it comes good for him and he comes back, if not then I hope we get some return on the £50m plus we've invested in him.

£50m+? How you work that out?

 

[SA Wolf]

£50m+? How you work that out?

I'd guess, fee plus wages plus time and investment in developing him etc... All adds up, but whether £50m - not sure.

 

[Krispy Kreme]

Burnley would have been a great move for him too I feel?

They're dominating the Championship at the moment and he ought to have been able to force himself into that team if he has higher aspirations.

 

[Streathamwolf]

Can't really see he has anything to be unhappy with Wolves about. Basically his Dad now seems to be overseeing his development while Wolves continue to ensure that he receives a salary beyond (in all honesty) anything he has really been shown to justify. Hope it comes good for him and he comes back, if not then I hope we get some return on the £50m plus we've invested in him.

The tirade of criticism from fans, on here and on twitter, towards a young man not responsible for the 35M price tag.

 

[Ned]

The less his dad becomes involved in his son’s career, the better for Fabio. The last thing any young player needs is an interfering family member making life difficult for everybody. Not saying that’s going to happen here but we’ve seen it before.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

IMV the only thing that’s interesting in that article is that he went to PSV over the championship’s most inform team in Burnley.

They have signed another couple of strikers though including one for £10m so assume that might have been part of the reasoning.

The rest I suspect his dad is significantly over playing his role, can’t imagine the club are letting him dictate the development plan for their £35m investment.

 

[tamwolf]

The less his dad becomes involved in his son’s career, the better for Fabio. The last thing any young player needs is an interfering family member making life difficult for everybody. Not saying that’s going to happen here but we’ve seen it before.

Happens all the time in sports unfortunately. I used to coach for a country cricket board in my early to mid 20s and I was always told that if a kid had an interfering parent, you were better off focusing your time on a less talented player who was engaged. The parent would just undo everything you had done as soon as they left training. It's quite sad really, but no matter what you do they are always more likely to try and please their parent than the coach.

 

[Ogerp]

The less his dad becomes involved in his son’s career, the better for Fabio. The last thing any young player needs is an interfering family member making life difficult for everybody. Not saying that’s going to happen here but we’ve seen it before.

Mark Bellingham seems to be doing a great job with his two sons though.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

The less his dad becomes involved in his son’s career, the better for Fabio. The last thing any young player needs is an interfering family member making life difficult for everybody. Not saying that’s going to happen here but we’ve seen it before.

My thoughts exactly on reading this. Can't imagine the current football management team putting up with it either. That could have a lot to do with why JL has not asked him back. Shame really I like what I have seen of Fabio as he has developed more, but have a feeling we might be looking to offload instead of utilize him.

 

[Contrarian]

The tirade of criticism from fans, on here and on twitter, towards a young man not responsible for the 35M price tag.

Who *was* responsible for the price tag? £6M to Mendes. £3M went to Fabios dad. Is he angry with them for putting the additional pressure? Or laughing all the way to the bank? There were "multiple irregularities" in the deal , leading to it being investigated. Blame the agents, not the fans, for delivering a player far short of what was needed, at inflated price.

How else could it have been? Take the greed out and a £15M transfer for a future prospect, to be shipped out on loan for a few seasons , no fan would have batted an eyelid. The fans didn't do the deal, either. Where does accountability lie?

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

The tirade of criticism from fans, on here and on twitter, towards a young man not responsible for the 35M price tag.

Well fair enough, sadly that's just the world we live in. Not saying it's right, but footballers and so many others have to live with it.

 

[Supadavewolf]

perhaps Fabio will have an extra ear when he returns, like Davy Crockett

Aaah, Davy Crockett - King of the wild front ear

 

[Ned]

Mark Bellingham seems to be doing a great job with his two sons though.

He’s the example that should be used to other parents. Probably helps that he is/was a copper.

 

[JOSWolf]

On Fabio I am sure I read somewhere in the last week that Lopetegui is keeping a keen eye on his progress and is looking forwards to seeing him at pre season training before next season.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

The move to PSV is good for him and wolves and all part of his development. Anderlecht gave him much needed pitch time but in an average team in a poor division. The Dutch league is stronger and definitely more technical plus playing for a better team in that league will hopefully mean more chances and more goals. I saw quite a few of his games for Anderlecht and he noticeably looked bigger and stronger. I firmly believe he’ll play a big part at wolves in the future.

 

[wolfslair]

The move to PSV is good for him and wolves and all part of his development. Anderlecht gave him much needed pitch time but in an average team in a poor division. The Dutch league is stronger and definitely more technical plus playing for a better team in that league will hopefully mean more chances and more goals. I saw quite a few of his games for Anderlecht and he noticeably looked bigger and stronger. I firmly believe he’ll play a big part at wolves in the future.

Defo!

Working with a former premier legend in goal scoring terms is only a benefit to him and us long term.

I think he was maturing well last year and the start of this season, so this loan can almost be seen like “finishing school” (pardon the pun) working with Ruud Van Nistelroy

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Defo!

Working with a former premier legend in goal scoring terms is only a benefit to him and us long term.

I think he was maturing well last year and the start of this season, so this loan can almost be seen like “finishing school” (pardon the pun) working with Ruud Van Nistelroy

He’s still very young and inexperienced to be leading the line for a premier league club and it was stifling his development last season not playing games or at best getting 10 mins here and there. If he could somehow get 10 plus goals for PSV before the end of the season it will do him the world of good

 

[Streathamwolf]

Who *was* responsible for the price tag? £6M to Mendes. £3M went to Fabios dad. Is he angry with them for putting the additional pressure? Or laughing all the way to the bank? There were "multiple irregularities" in the deal , leading to it being investigated. Blame the agents, not the fans, for delivering a player far short of what was needed, at inflated price.

How else could it have been? Take the greed out and a £15M transfer for a future prospect, to be shipped out on loan for a few seasons , no fan would have batted an eyelid. The fans didn't do the deal, either. Where does accountability lie?

not with a 17 year old caught in the middle.

 

[wolvesaywe]

The move to PSV is good for him and wolves and all part of his development. Anderlecht gave him much needed pitch time but in an average team in a poor division. The Dutch league is stronger and definitely more technical plus playing for a better team in that league will hopefully mean more chances and more goals. I saw quite a few of his games for Anderlecht and he noticeably looked bigger and stronger. I firmly believe he’ll play a big part at wolves in the future.

I agree. I reckon Fabio coming back next year is a big reason why we haven't signed a number 9

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I agree. I reckon Fabio coming back next year is a big reason why we haven't signed a number 9

Definitely. I think Raul and Costa will go and Fabio and AN Other will be in

 

[SA Wolf]

Definitely. I think Raul and Costa will go and Fabio and AN Other will be in

Sasa?

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

Sasa?

I'm thinking we'll pick up another striker in the summer, too: Fabio, Sasa, Cunha, and NEW. We would then have two that can run channels and interplay with others (Fabio, Cunha), one target man (Sasa), and then one who can be more of a "fox in the box" and hold-up style striker.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Sasa?

Good point I completely forgot about him

 

[Ned]

If we have Cunha, Fabio and Sasa then we will 100% be signing another striker. Sasa won’t be able to play week in, week out and will need to be managed if he’s to be available when we want him to be available. Cunha can play off a striker so game time for 4 players won’t be an issue.

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

If we have Cunha, Fabio and Sasa then we will 100% be signing another striker. Sasa won’t be able to play week in, week out and will need to be managed if he’s to be available when we want him to be available. Cunha can play off a striker so game time for 4 players won’t be an issue.

Sasa will be a specialty option IMO, not necessarily an every day striker: chasing a game and need someone to cross to or the opposition defense is poor at defending crosses. Of course, he can play in other ways - he seems to be good at laying the ball off, too; but, we can manage his minutes effectively if we get another striker in.

Guedes and some cash for Ramos, anyone - Goncalo for Goncalo, if I may? Please Guedes - smash them in at Benfica so this can happen.

 

[oldgoldheart]

silva will never play for wolves again

 

[Ian]

Good point I completely forgot about him

Unfortunately I think we can forget about him having much of a future at Wolves.
As for Fabio, hopefully he does well for the rest of the season at PSV, has a great preseason and is named as CF in the first league game of 23/24........ if he's not playing a significant role in the Wolves first team next year then it will be another waste of millions.

 

[CodsallWolf]

The fans didn't do the deal, either. Where does accountability lie?

Jeff.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

He should be here now. Don't fancy any of our other forwards to get 4 or 5 goals. He would, whilst getting pillared for it.

 

[Contrarian]

Jeff.

Yes, agreed. Though I suppose he can't come out and admit that he may have made a mistake and perhaps overpaid and that Fabio was nowhere near as close to ready as he thought. That would be demoralising all round.

Put it down to the learning curve. Even as supporters, we are on it too. Most of us can't remember having a side competing right at the top end, so no surprise we weren't sure what to do next! Very much in hindsight, we can all see mistakes were made.

 

[Contrarian]

not with a 17 year old caught in the middle.

Nor the fans, paying to watch a team with one of the worst goal scoring records in recent decades. Understandable they would get a bit edgy on where the money was spent.

 

[Monketron]

Burnley would have also been a good move given the style they play and the physicality of the league but can't really argue against going to PSV, especially with who their manager is.

 

[Perton Wolf]

Sounds like Kompany wanted him twice then, while still at Anderlecht and now at Burnley.

Can't really knock the move to PSV but Burnley would've been the initial better option if they were also interested in the summer.