Everton, surely a points deduction?

[moseleyite]

I have a rather cynical approach to this! 10 point deduction sounds harsh but Everton have been playing ok this season and there’s definitely 3 worse teams currently than them and the Prem know this hence it coming out today.

It's certainly a decent year to have a 10 point deduction!

 

[lets all have a disco]

What I don't understand was the line in the ruling stating they got no sporting advantage from the overspend.

Despite having lampard in charge for some it, surely they recieved an unfair advantage on the field, or did having lampard nullify the advantage?

Maybe that should be the punishment....if you break the rules , you have to have Lampard as your manager for the following season....

 

[sedgwolf1980]

All feels like a stich up to me. ‘What’s the biggest deduction we can give them that looks to casual observers like it’s quite heavy, but to anyone with a brain they can see it’s puts them in zero danger if relegation’.

The fact they dish it out the moment everyone realises we have possibly the 3 weakest and I’ll equipped promoted teams in premier league history.

Cannot stick Everton fans. Sour faced far left bitter and twisted commie nut jobs the lot of them. Hope the teams truly impacted here sue the **** off them.

 

[Black Country Wanderer]

On the news it says the Premier League wanted a 12 point deduction
It was an independent commission that gave the 10 point deduction not the Prem

 

[Aimless Balls]

I’m sure the levels down there made decision-makers feel fine about the 10 points. They still wouldn’t have an excuse to be relegated.

 

[Thank you Sir Jack]

I have applied to a number of universities to study law, as whilst it may take a few years for me to qualify, the compensation claims will still be rolling on, and I intend to have my snout in the trough.

 

[inaglasshouse]

I can see it now. City and Chelsea to be relegated at the end of the season along with bottom 3 (not Everton of course), then the top 4 in the championship promoted automatically with 5th to 9th in the play offs. Albion claim 4th on the last day on goal difference. Rooney's Birmingham finish 9th and win the play offs.

 

[peter&thewolf]

Do they run the risk of having it increased, if they appeal

 

[BlahBlah]

The have a crystal ball and found out they’re going down this year?

normally when prize money has already been handed out, those clubs that finished below Everton lost out on position money or incurred losses themselves. So if Everton have now been found guilty and punished they may have a claim....where would Everton have finished last season with 10 points less?

There have been a few where clubs were going to sue other clubs which was then settled out of court, West Ham having to chuck Sheff Utd about 20 mill was a big case when Sheff Utd got relegated but West Ham stayed up by breaking the rules.

 

[Huyton W88lvo]

I remember it VERY well!

Hope both Everton and Blues go out of business!

I too remember the Wayne Clarke Stuart Storer scandalous transfer ! The Andy Gray transfer to Everton was criminal too . He may have been injury prone but he won them the lot - FA Cup League and they virtually stole him off us for 250k ffs

 

[Mardenboroughs Shoulder]

I have a rather cynical approach to this! 10 point deduction sounds harsh but Everton have been playing ok this season and there’s definitely 3 worse teams currently than them and the Prem know this hence it coming out today.

Be very interesting to see if VAR decisions go their way for the rest of the season?

Just saying!

Quite right. Best time to take a points deduction for Everton and the Premier League. Seen to be punished but relegation should be comfortably avoidable.

 

[Kennedy]

Everton will still stay up in my opinion.

What about the other clubs, Chelsea, City, Villa???

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

On the news it says the Premier League wanted a 12 point deduction
It was an independent commission that gave the 10 point deduction not the Prem

Independent commission, made up of Ken Dodd, Jimmy Tarbuck and Cilla Black.

 

[JadeWolf]

Everton will still stay up in my opinion.

What about the other clubs, Chelsea, City, Villa???

You could take 50 points off City and they’d still stay up.

 

[Kennedy]

Independent commission, made up of Ken Dodd, Jimmy Tarbuck and Cilla Black.

That's a ridiculous, discriminatory anti Scouse aganda.

It wasnt Jimmy Tarbuck et al, it was Jimmy Corkhill, Spitter Caragher and Yozzer Hughes...

God save the King.

 

[Big Saft Kid]

Heard an interview on Sky Sports News and one line of questioning was about how much Everton fans have suffered over the years. Suffered? Give me a break. they have never even been relegated! Fans of most other clubs suffer relegation, some clubs have drop out of the football league through relegation and struggle to return or never do. Many clubs have had massive points deductions in the EFL and been relegated, other clubs have gone out of business completely. Everton have always been in the top division, never been relegated, have won cups and top division titles. Not one taste of the pain of relegation. Suffered? I don't think so. Take your medicine.

They were relegated in 1953 from memory. Came straight back up

 

[Darvo]

What I don't understand was the line in the ruling stating they got no sporting advantage from the overspend.

Despite having lampard in charge for some of it, surely they recieved an unfair advantage on the field, or did having lampard nullify the advantage?

Absolutely staggering!

 

[stever]

I can see it now. City and Chelsea to be relegated at the end of the season along with bottom 3 (not Everton of course), then the top 4 in the championship promoted automatically with 5th to 9th in the play offs. Albion claim 4th on the last day on goal difference. Rooney's Birmingham finish 9th and win the play offs.

That's some vision dude.

 

[mcwolf]

chilly weather must be minus 10

 

[jackdusty]

While i agree they should still stay up ............ remember they are only a Calvert-Lewin injury away from being carp again.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

What I don't understand was the line in the ruling stating they got no sporting advantage from the overspend.

Despite having lampard in charge for some of it, surely they recieved an unfair advantage on the field, or did having lampard nullify the advantage?

I suspect that’s an attempt to help them avoid having to pay the clubs seeking financial compensation, and a potential claim those clubs may have on the PL for not acting sooner. But it makes no sense given they’d previously argued for a points deduction as punishment as a sporting sanction for the sporting advantage the overspend gave Everton.

 

[JR WAS KING]

Maybe because he was told during the transfer window?

You just love Loppy, don't you?

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

I must admit, since I sent a complaint to the BBC about their news programmes being totally dominated by Gaza, they’ve stopped making Gaza the main headline most days!

I guess you know a guy?

 

[inaglasshouse]

That's some vision dude.

On the other hand we will stop up.
In another scenario if they do relegate City and Chelsea then maybe there will only be one relegation place, massively increasing Evertons chances again.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

I suspect that’s an attempt to help them avoid having to pay the clubs seeking financial compensation, and a potential claim those clubs may have on the PL for not acting sooner. But it makes no sense given they’d previously argued for a points deduction as punishment as a sporting sanction for the sporting advantage the overspend gave Everton.

So,does it leave a loophole for appeal? A sporting sanction being inappropriate in view of the assertion, within the ruling, that no sporting advantage was obtained. I feel certain they will wriggle out of it somehow, especially if it does start to look like they are in any danger of relegation as a result. A successful appeal on these grounds might also put City in a position where the most they have to fear is a financial penalty and then its drinks all round back at the old boys club.

 

[A wanderer from Bristol]

All feels like a stich up to me. ‘What’s the biggest deduction we can give them that looks to casual observers like it’s quite heavy, but to anyone with a brain they can see it’s puts them in zero danger if relegation’.

The fact they dish it out the moment everyone realises we have possibly the 3 weakest and I’ll equipped promoted teams in premier league history.

Cannot stick Everton fans. Sour faced far left bitter and twisted commie nut jobs the lot of them. Hope the teams truly impacted here sue the **** off them.

Nice balanced view of Everton fans. What a load of ****** that is - sorry if the comment is ironic

 

[Sussex Wolf]

So,does it leave a loophole for appeal? A sporting sanction being inappropriate in view of the assertion, within the ruling, that no sporting advantage was obtained. I feel certain they will wriggle out of it somehow, especially if it does start to look like they are in any danger of relegation as a result. A successful appeal on these grounds might also put City in a position where the most they have to fear is a financial penalty and then its drinks all round back at the old boys club.

It probably leaves a loophole to appeal the sanction, if not the breach. There really should be jeopardy in an appeal like there has been in challenging red card suspensions in the past. If there’s none, then what’s to lose for the club appealing even if they themselves think they are lucky in the size and timing of the sanction? Now if they faced the risk of the points deduction being doubled if they appeal, they may think twice.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

It probably leaves a loophole to appeal the sanction, if not the breach. There really should be jeopardy in an appeal like there has been in challenging red card suspensions in the past. If there’s none, then what’s to lose for the club appealing even if they themselves think they are lucky in the size and timing of the sanction? Now if they faced the risk of the points deduction being doubled if they appeal, they may think twice.

Can't really understand it. The PL wanted it sorted last season, if the sanction had been enforced in May then Everton would be in the Championship and Leicester would be in the PL. So regardless of what they call it, their failure to sort it at the appropriate time (understandable when you see the crazy amount of evidence submitted) has resulted in something like maybe £70m loss to Leicester and the best you can say is they might make it back next season. Not sure anyone else has much claim, but they surely do, we'd be raging now if it was us.

 

[hollo]

While i agree they should still stay up ............ remember they are only a Calvert-Lewin injury away from being carp again.

They have beto to smash the goals in.

 

[Huyton W88lvo]

They have beto to smash the goals in.

Oh yes there’s 26million

 

[Lou Pine]

All feels like a stich up to me. ‘What’s the biggest deduction we can give them that looks to casual observers like it’s quite heavy, but to anyone with a brain they can see it’s puts them in zero danger if relegation’.

The fact they dish it out the moment everyone realises we have possibly the 3 weakest and I’ll equipped promoted teams in premier league history.

Cannot stick Everton fans. Sour faced far left bitter and twisted commie nut jobs the lot of them. Hope the teams truly impacted here sue the **** off them.

I don’t think that any pro-Everton/far left conspirators knew how crap the bottom 6 of the Premier League were going to be when Everton were charged back in March.

It’s clear from Wolves actions over the summer that those in the know knew that a points deduction was coming for those in breach of ffp. They’ve been fortunate that the league is particularly ****e this year but in no way is this some pro-scouse conspiracy.

Man City will get their punishment but working through their multiple charges will take a lot longer.

 

[jackdusty]

They have beto to smash the goals in.

Nil goals in 8 league appearances, yep that will do.

 

[WickedWolfie]

 

[WickedWolfie]

If travelling to Liverpool beware and wrap up warm...... its -10 in some areas

 

[WickedWolfie]

Independent commission, made up of Ken Dodd, Jimmy Tarbuck and Cilla Black.

Two out of three dead.....

 

[BlahBlah]

While i agree they should still stay up ............ remember they are only a Calvert-Lewin injury away from being carp again.

so a few weeks then?

 

[manchesterwolf17]

Big news! - It will mean they finish 15th rather than 13th.

 

[Jamwolf]

One of the previously bottom 3 will raise their game a bit, and I'm not sure Everton will. I reckon that they'll go down.
Wouldn't surprise me, though, if the deduction is cut to 5 or 6.
Personally, I'd raise it to 20 and have done with them !

 

[Pagey]

Do they run the risk of having it increased, if they appeal

Fingers crossed.

 

[Bigcheese]

For me, and I haven't been following this thread,ffp is a load of ******.
If you own the club and you want to spend, then crack on.
In no other line of business are you deprived from investing in it.