mcwolf
Just doesn't shut up
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treated like ****e .
treated like ****e .
so sorry zacoHe was our player for years, could we at least spell his name properly on the thread title?!
I am just glad to two people responsible for his treatment have both been shown the doorDeserved much better treatment from the club, and many on here come to that.
he’s aging, for sure, declining?Sadly, his career seems to be going downhill.
Dyche didn’t rate him at Everton and he can’t get a regular starting place at Leicester. From being our club captain and a regular in the England squad, he is now a bench warmer in the Championship.
We were the right club for Conor, at the right time, but a pretty poor manager ended all that!
Lage deserves to be mentioned in the same conversations as Saunders from an ability perspective.It’s bloody lousy how it all ended for Coady. Loved the guy.
He may not have been perfect but Jesus, he was dedicated to Wolves and making us better.
Also, between Lage and JL, there seems to have been some acrimony between other players and them.
It seemed like some of our stars departed in less than an ideal way.
Well he ain’t improving is he!he’s aging, for sure, declining?
I have it on good authority that is simply not true.Covering old ground but he was third choice.
They didn’t want him to go. Who wants to lose their third choice centre back?
They let him decide his future and he makes it quite clear he was desperate to go to play, in order to get in the World Cup.
I have no time for Shi/Sellars/Lage but they must be baffled at how Coady is spinning this.
They gave him what HE wanted to fulfil HIS dream by letting him go on a bad deal for Wolves and he has the audacity to complain.
And he didn't complain about sitting on Everton's bench.Covering old ground but he was third choice.
They didn’t want him to go. Who wants to lose their third choice centre back?
They let him decide his future and he makes it quite clear he was desperate to go to play, in order to get in the World Cup.
I have no time for Shi/Sellars/Lage but they must be baffled at how Coady is spinning this.
They gave him what HE wanted to fulfil HIS dream by letting him go on a bad deal for Wolves and he has the audacity to complain.
They agreed a deal with Trabzonspor without his knowledge, of course they wanted him to go. The cowards just didn't have the balls to tell him directlyCovering old ground but he was third choice.
They didn’t want him to go. Who wants to lose their third choice centre back?
They let him decide his future and he makes it quite clear he was desperate to go to play, in order to get in the World Cup.
I have no time for Shi/Sellars/Lage but they must be baffled at how Coady is spinning this.
They gave him what HE wanted to fulfil HIS dream by letting him go on a bad deal for Wolves and he has the audacity to complain.
Covering old ground but he was third choice.
They didn’t want him to go. Who wants to lose their third choice centre back?
They let him decide his future and he makes it quite clear he was desperate to go to play, in order to get in the World Cup.
I have no time for Shi/Sellars/Lage but they must be baffled at how Coady is spinning this.
They gave him what HE wanted to fulfil HIS dream by letting him go on a bad deal for Wolves and he has the audacity to complain.
Right decision to move him on (as shown with his performances at Everton and Leicester since), but it should have been handled in the correct manner. Weak manager & a weak sporting director.
They didn’t. When you listen to what he said, he says Wolves told him they rejected it. The headline is misleadingThey agreed a deal with Trabzonspor without his knowledge, of course they wanted him to go. The cowards just didn't have the balls to tell him directly
Sort of. They were trying to do deals without coady's knowledge. This does happen in football but doing it to your club captain and after everything he'd done is particularly bad.They didn’t. When you listen to what he said, he says Wolves told him they rejected it. The headline is misleading
Tbf, he wasnt that bad at Everton. His form was pretty good early on, even in a back 4 but when Dyche came in he just reverted to players he worked with at Burnley.
indeed he does.Lage deserves to be mentioned in the same conversations as Saunders from an ability perspective.
And probably somewhere in between this and what Coady says, is the truth.Covering old ground but he was third choice.
They didn’t want him to go. Who wants to lose their third choice centre back?
They let him decide his future and he makes it quite clear he was desperate to go to play, in order to get in the World Cup.
I have no time for Shi/Sellars/Lage but they must be baffled at how Coady is spinning this.
They gave him what HE wanted to fulfil HIS dream by letting him go on a bad deal for Wolves and he has the audacity to complain.
Putting aside the way he left, agree with all of that. He was the right man in the right place at the right time.He had some massive game costing errors in succession and his error for a goal in the derby was inept and he lost many toffees fans he was so bad in that game being ex Liverpool.
I said many times they weren’t taking the option…. Got slaughtered for it.
But he didn’t do enough on the pitch and was involved in a situation that led to Gordon leaving the club by forcing a move that at the time Everton were desperate for him to stay.
He had a **** poor return on headers and challenges won, wouldn’t cut it at many sides let alone a Dyche one with how they were.
Another mark against his name.
Great leader, inspirational guy, but massively limited as a player. In that team we had with Nuno he was massive, but it was lightning in a bottle, perfect manager, perfect system and perfect team that pulled the massive heartbeat of that generation out from what was looking likely to be a championship journeyman career, as let’s be honest if he had been sold that summer without Nuno, who would have really cared?
Money wasn’t the reason why they didn’t take him! They knew he had been below a standard where they could flip him for a reasonable profit! So they could have signed to keep him if they wanted him, they chose not to.
Sort of. They were trying to do deals without coady's knowledge. This does happen in football but doing it to your club captain and after everything he'd done is particularly bad.
He didn't exactly choose to leave unless everyone who is pushed out of a workplace 'chooses to leave'. He was firmly and rudely pushed out the door. It was deliberately designed to make coady look the guilty party and that's why it was unforgivable.
There was no issue having a conversation with him if Lage didn't want him any more but neither Lage or certain others did that even remotely professionally.
- Wolves brought in Collins, Lage looking at a back four
- Pre season planning failure (trip to US cancelled)
- Neves says we did not prepare well for season, as a club, as a staff, as players
- Coady was expecting a conversation from somebody
- Had a call from Turkey, sporting director from Trabzonspor, put him onto his agent
- Guy says Wolves have accepted an offer for him - no communication to Coady from Wolves
- Scott Sellars a few days later tells Coady Wolves have rejected the offer
- Asked Matt Wild for a conversation, Coady wanted to know what was going on - why couldnt Lage just tell him the plans?
- Approached Lage who said 'he would understand whatever decision I made'
- Coady took that as 'you are telling me I can go, but why not just say it?'
- Everton showed interest in the week of the Leeds game
- Refutes accusation he would not have fought for his place, left because nobody talked to him, or was seemingly bothered about him leaving
- Very proud of his time at Wolves, particularly the Nuno years
Again, a summary from the J Phillips/P Berry book;
He may well have been 'fuming' to be on the bench at Leeds, maybe not because he thought he was better than Collins or Kilman - but because of the above. Would I trust Lage/Sellars or Coady? Then again, I expect if you spent considerable time posting about Coady and the fact he left for Everton (and why) at the time it is fairly inconvenient for this to come out.