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It has but it is still barmyThis isn’t remotely new though, this has been the rule for years?
It has but it is still barmyThis isn’t remotely new though, this has been the rule for years?
The players care more about how big the holes are they cut in their socks and their hairstyles.I don’t watch England much, or even really care that much, but as an observation I do find lots of people tend to vastly overrate many of our players and how good/effective we are at this level. We never looked like scoring. Could have played another 90 out there and still be on 0. That was incredibly comfortable for a Brazil team missing key players too tbh. I get that we are missing a few, but I think people would be mad to put any money down on us winning the Euros.
Chilwell and Gallagher jesus wept.
The way the commentators were going on you’d have thought we were electric, and Bellingham was playing like prime Zidane. It was more like PR than analysis
Plus a lot aren’t on form or just coming back from injury .I think you could tell with some players that they just weren’t going to risk injury with such a big end to the season coming up. Whoever decided to have an international break with 10 games to go ain’t the sharpest.
Certainly seems to like kicking Bellingham!Having grown up watching the Brazil team of 82, that Brazil performance was as far from that as possible. How sad to see what they have become.
And they could still beat England .
I'd imagine Bellinghams sliding tackle and yellow card early on didn't do him any favours. In fairness his treatment wasn't exactly classic 1970s. The definition of kicking lumps out of someone has definitely been watered down.Plus a lot aren’t on form or just coming back from injury .
I noticed Gordon looked the most lively and that was probably because it was his debut.
Certainly seems to like kicking Bellingham!
Might have to get used to it .
Having grown up watching the Brazil team of 82, that Brazil performance was as far from that as possible. How sad to see what they have become.
And they could still beat England .
Fair point .I'd imagine Bellinghams sliding tackle and yellow card early on didn't do him any favours. In fairness his treatment wasn't exactly classic 1970s. The definition of kicking lumps out of someone has definitely been watered down.
Put Southgate in charge of anything and you get boring, stale, predictable and thoroughly unwatchable football.
The 82 team and of course the that superb1970 team are by far my favourite Brazilian teams of all time.That 82 Brazil side remains my favourite all team international team. Zico ( the real one, sadly not Geoff Palmer ) Socrates, Falcao, Cerezo and Eder were majestic players.
I remember that Friday night they ripped Scotland to bits 4-1 in Seville. Graeme Souness tells a great story about how hot it was that night with crazy humidity levels. He noted that as they lined up for the national anthems the Brazilian players stood like Gods / Hollywood film stars, not a hair out of place or a bead of sweat on them with chiselled physiques, while the his side looked like your typical Scots on a Spanish package holiday, streaming sweat, some with ginger hair, no teeth and various physical shapes and sizes
The game when they beat Argentina was also the day the main BBC News announced that " Wolverhampton Wanderers have gone into receivership " . So to watch Brazil thump Argentina 3-1 was something to brighten up a bad day. Eder unleashed what for me remains the greatest shot never to go in ( my bitter Scots mates tell " No Big Man that was Geoff Hurst at Wembley in 66 ) when he smashed a free kick from 35 yards that shook the bar, Zico scored from the rebound to put Brazil one up. On closer examination of the action replay Ubaldo Filliol the excellent Argentina goalie got a finger tip to Eder's blast making it one of the all time saves for me. Brazil won 3-1. The game saw some young Argentinian fella called Maradona get sent off, I don't think we ever heard from him again after that game
The Monday afternoon saw what for me remains the greatest game of football I have ever seen ( sorry Sky it does not involve Liverpool / Manchester United or Arsenal ! ) when Italy beat Brazil 3-2 to end the tournament of that great side. In the end the things that were in the back of my and a lot of other people's minds came to the fore, the goalie Waldir Peres looked like when you played local football and the opposition have had to ask someone's Dad to go in goal ! He looked about 50 and played like it having already conceded a shocker versus The USSR in a Group game. Junior was a marvelous attacking Full Back but when it came to defending he was found wanting as this game showed. The Brazil defence was exposed but the biggest weakness was up front. Careca, who was the first man to do the aeroplane celebration in the 86 World Cup suffered a serious knee injury pre-tournament meaning Serginho was up front. Talk about the sublime to the ridiculous as a side with Socrates, Zico, Falcao and Eder who were truly world class, were in the same time team with a complete and utter carthorse who had the kicking technique of a three year old. If Careca would have been fit Brazil would have won the 1982 World Cup.
As Graeme Souness says when discussing that Brazil side when the lost to Italy and were therefore eliminated as he so rightly puts it " It was the day the beautiful game died "
You’re right there. I think the fact Endrick was masking Rice made it look closer than it was judging by the mown lines.According to Guardian it may have been Rice but still not sure. In the premier they'd still be drawing lines
Lies, Damn lies etc.'Lots of good performances tonight'
Southgate pleased with what he saw from England. Hard to criticise England's most successful manager since Alf Ramsey - the facts don't lie.
For ages after, if someone missed a sitter or completely mis-kicked one of my mates would shout ”Serginho”.That 82 Brazil side remains my favourite all team international team. Zico ( the real one, sadly not Geoff Palmer ) Socrates, Falcao, Cerezo and Eder were majestic players.
I remember that Friday night they ripped Scotland to bits 4-1 in Seville. Graeme Souness tells a great story about how hot it was that night with crazy humidity levels. He noted that as they lined up for the national anthems the Brazilian players stood like Gods / Hollywood film stars, not a hair out of place or a bead of sweat on them with chiselled physiques, while the his side looked like your typical Scots on a Spanish package holiday, streaming sweat, some with ginger hair, no teeth and various physical shapes and sizes
The game when they beat Argentina was also the day the main BBC News announced that " Wolverhampton Wanderers have gone into receivership " . So to watch Brazil thump Argentina 3-1 was something to brighten up a bad day. Eder unleashed what for me remains the greatest shot never to go in ( my bitter Scots mates tell " No Big Man that was Geoff Hurst at Wembley in 66 ) when he smashed a free kick from 35 yards that shook the bar, Zico scored from the rebound to put Brazil one up. On closer examination of the action replay Ubaldo Filliol the excellent Argentina goalie got a finger tip to Eder's blast making it one of the all time saves for me. Brazil won 3-1. The game saw some young Argentinian fella called Maradona get sent off, I don't think we ever heard from him again after that game
The Monday afternoon saw what for me remains the greatest game of football I have ever seen ( sorry Sky it does not involve Liverpool / Manchester United or Arsenal ! ) when Italy beat Brazil 3-2 to end the tournament of that great side. In the end the things that were in the back of my and a lot of other people's minds came to the fore, the goalie Waldir Peres looked like when you played local football and the opposition have had to ask someone's Dad to go in goal ! He looked about 50 and played like it having already conceded a shocker versus The USSR in a Group game. Junior was a marvelous attacking Full Back but when it came to defending he was found wanting as this game showed. The Brazil defence was exposed but the biggest weakness was up front. Careca, who was the first man to do the aeroplane celebration in the 86 World Cup suffered a serious knee injury pre-tournament meaning Serginho was up front. Talk about the sublime to the ridiculous as a side with Socrates, Zico, Falcao and Eder who were truly world class, were in the same time team with a complete and utter carthorse who had the kicking technique of a three year old. If Careca would have been fit Brazil would have won the 1982 World Cup.
As Graeme Souness says when discussing that Brazil side when the lost to Italy and were therefore eliminated as he so rightly puts it " It was the day the beautiful game died "
The 82 team and of course the that superb1970 team are by far my favourite Brazilian teams of all time.
Losing to Italy (and Paolo Rossi in particular) left me as numb as the Wolves dis-appointments we've had to endure along the way.
There's a good book dedicated to that 82 team called (strangely enough), "1982 Brazil, The Glorious Failure" by Stuart Horsfield. Well worth a read if you havn't already. Some good colour plates in it too.
I'd imagine Bellinghams sliding tackle and yellow card early on didn't do him any favours. In fairness his treatment wasn't exactly classic 1970s. The definition of kicking lumps out of someone has definitely been watered down.
Not ashamed to admit that the 3-2 loss to Italy was the first game that left me in tears ( was aged 13) the beautiful game had indeed died.The 82 team and of course the that superb1970 team are by far my favourite Brazilian teams of all time.
Losing to Italy (and Paolo Rossi in particular) left me as numb as the Wolves dis-appointments we've had to endure along the way.
There's a good book dedicated to that 82 team called (strangely enough), "1982 Brazil, The Glorious Failure" by Stuart Horsfield. Well worth a read if you havn't already. Some good colour plates in it too.
Great post. I agree the current Brazil side are a far cry from the exceptional sides they had when I was a kid back in the late 70’s and 80’s.That 82 Brazil side remains my favourite all team international team. Zico ( the real one, sadly not Geoff Palmer ) Socrates, Falcao, Cerezo and Eder were majestic players.
I remember that Friday night they ripped Scotland to bits 4-1 in Seville. Graeme Souness tells a great story about how hot it was that night with crazy humidity levels. He noted that as they lined up for the national anthems the Brazilian players stood like Gods / Hollywood film stars, not a hair out of place or a bead of sweat on them with chiselled physiques, while the his side looked like your typical Scots on a Spanish package holiday, streaming sweat, some with ginger hair, no teeth and various physical shapes and sizes
The game when they beat Argentina was also the day the main BBC News announced that " Wolverhampton Wanderers have gone into receivership " . So to watch Brazil thump Argentina 3-1 was something to brighten up a bad day. Eder unleashed what for me remains the greatest shot never to go in ( my bitter Scots mates tell " No Big Man that was Geoff Hurst at Wembley in 66 ) when he smashed a free kick from 35 yards that shook the bar, Zico scored from the rebound to put Brazil one up. On closer examination of the action replay Ubaldo Filliol the excellent Argentina goalie got a finger tip to Eder's blast making it one of the all time saves for me. Brazil won 3-1. The game saw some young Argentinian fella called Maradona get sent off, I don't think we ever heard from him again after that game
The Monday afternoon saw what for me remains the greatest game of football I have ever seen ( sorry Sky it does not involve Liverpool / Manchester United or Arsenal ! ) when Italy beat Brazil 3-2 to end the tournament of that great side. In the end the things that were in the back of my and a lot of other people's minds came to the fore, the goalie Waldir Peres looked like when you played local football and the opposition have had to ask someone's Dad to go in goal ! He looked about 50 and played like it having already conceded a shocker versus The USSR in a Group game. Junior was a marvelous attacking Full Back but when it came to defending he was found wanting as this game showed. The Brazil defence was exposed but the biggest weakness was up front. Careca, who was the first man to do the aeroplane celebration in the 86 World Cup suffered a serious knee injury pre-tournament meaning Serginho was up front. Talk about the sublime to the ridiculous as a side with Socrates, Zico, Falcao and Eder who were truly world class, were in the same time team with a complete and utter carthorse who had the kicking technique of a three year old. If Careca would have been fit Brazil would have won the 1982 World Cup.
As Graeme Souness says when discussing that Brazil side that lost to Italy and were therefore eliminated, as he so rightly puts it " It was the day the beautiful game died "
That's a good read, NB.That 82 Brazil side remains my favourite all team international team. Zico ( the real one, sadly not Geoff Palmer ) Socrates, Falcao, Cerezo and Eder were majestic players.
I remember that Friday night they ripped Scotland to bits 4-1 in Seville. Graeme Souness tells a great story about how hot it was that night with crazy humidity levels. He noted that as they lined up for the national anthems the Brazilian players stood like Gods / Hollywood film stars, not a hair out of place or a bead of sweat on them with chiselled physiques, while the his side looked like your typical Scots on a Spanish package holiday, streaming sweat, some with ginger hair, no teeth and various physical shapes and sizes
The game when they beat Argentina was also the day the main BBC News announced that " Wolverhampton Wanderers have gone into receivership " . So to watch Brazil thump Argentina 3-1 was something to brighten up a bad day. Eder unleashed what for me remains the greatest shot never to go in ( my bitter Scots mates tell " No Big Man that was Geoff Hurst at Wembley in 66 ) when he smashed a free kick from 35 yards that shook the bar, Zico scored from the rebound to put Brazil one up. On closer examination of the action replay Ubaldo Filliol the excellent Argentina goalie got a finger tip to Eder's blast making it one of the all time saves for me. Brazil won 3-1. The game saw some young Argentinian fella called Maradona get sent off, I don't think we ever heard from him again after that game
The Monday afternoon saw what for me remains the greatest game of football I have ever seen ( sorry Sky it does not involve Liverpool / Manchester United or Arsenal ! ) when Italy beat Brazil 3-2 to end the tournament of that great side. In the end the things that were in the back of my and a lot of other people's minds came to the fore, the goalie Waldir Peres looked like when you played local football and the opposition have had to ask someone's Dad to go in goal ! He looked about 50 and played like it having already conceded a shocker versus The USSR in a Group game. Junior was a marvelous attacking Full Back but when it came to defending he was found wanting as this game showed. The Brazil defence was exposed but the biggest weakness was up front. Careca, who was the first man to do the aeroplane celebration in the 86 World Cup suffered a serious knee injury pre-tournament meaning Serginho was up front. Talk about the sublime to the ridiculous as a side with Socrates, Zico, Falcao and Eder who were truly world class, were in the same time team with a complete and utter carthorse who had the kicking technique of a three year old. If Careca would have been fit Brazil would have won the 1982 World Cup.
As Graeme Souness says when discussing that Brazil side that lost to Italy and were therefore eliminated, as he so rightly puts it " It was the day the beautiful game died "
No as I subscribe to Sky who have no interest in non-league or lower than Championship football. Instead, 3 womens games of no interest and a Scottish Cup Final ffs. Love to know viewing figures.Anyone watch my local team Worthing’s Nat League South home game against Bath City on tnt sports 3 this afternoon. Entertaining 2-2 draw which I thought was a good advert for lower league football.
I would imagine they had larger viewing figures than non League on TNT.No as I subscribe to Sky who have no interest in non-league or lower than Championship football. Instead, 3 womens games of no interest and a Scottish Cup Final ffs. Love to know viewing figures.
Bet Worthing needed the money more than Villa,West Ham or Rangers though. Scottish womens football though ? FfsI would imagine they had larger viewing figures than non League on TNT.
There were two league two games on, over the weekendNo as I subscribe to Sky who have no interest in non-league or lower than Championship football. Instead, 3 womens games of no interest and a Scottish Cup Final ffs. Love to know viewing figures.
Sarabia on the bench for Spain.
Joao starts for Brazil again after playing 95 minutes on Saturday... I'm delighted for him but he better get taken off early!
Chilwell, Dunk, Konsa, Gomez. England can’t have had many worse back fours than that.Pickford and Chilwell conspire to gift a goal to Belgium. Pickford succeeds with a shocking clearance . We look awful again