Wolves Fan Banned for Mocking Supporters

[VancouverWolf]

Was the Wolves woman who hit a West Hm fan with a pie given a lifetime ban?

 

[Jonzy54]

Was the Wolves woman who hit a West Hm fan with a pie given a lifetime ban?

Wrong but not the same analogy

 

[VancouverWolf]

Wrong but not the same analogy

It’s about accountability and proportional response and punishment

 

[Jonzy54]

It’s about accountability and proportional response and punishment

I agree but hurling a pie isn’t in the same as hurling racist and homophobic abuse

 

[Boon2]

Village idiots in the old days had smaller ponds to swim in.

Is "village idiots" acceptable nowadays?

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

I agree but hurling a pie isn’t in the same as hurling racist and homophobic abuse

Sticks and stones may break my bones but pies will never hurt me...

Until middle age and High cholesterol and worrying BMI.

 

[Longford Wolf]

I agree but hurling a pie isn’t in the same as hurling racist and homophobic abuse

What if the thrown pie hit a person who was Vegan? Would it be classed as a hate crime?
Joking aside I’ve heard this lowlife fella has been offered a job with Yorkshire ccc..

 

[Burton Wolf]

I guess hurling a pie if it was red hot could actually injure someone? Just saying.

 

[whitnash wolf ex.dewsbury]

I guess hurling a pie if it was red hot could actually injure someone? Just saying.

or a stale pork pie,but red hot pie in the eye could be serious but magistrates would take that into consideration
along with relevant factors
behaviour at grounds is now a lot better than when quite often you had to fight to get into
and out of grounds in the 60s/70s/80s

 

[Padraig]

I guess hurling a pie if it was red hot could actually injure someone? Just saying.

Yes but which flavour would be most painful?

I’m going balti, more sauce. Although chicken and mushroom seems to have mad heat retention.

 

[Sheffield Wolf]

I’m generally quite a forgiving person and think people deserve a second chance, but what really winds me up is him denying his actions.

If morons want to behave like this, at least have the courage to admit what you’ve done.

No doubt, he’ll plead not guilty to the Rio Ferdinand related charges, wasting everybody’s precious time.

 

[maws]

I agree but hurling a pie isn’t in the same as hurling racist and homophobic abuse

It could be worse if it’s red hot liquid inside comes into contact with the eye

She got 3 year ban, appealed it and it was rejected

 

[maws]

I’ve a jaundiced view but I don’t believe in lifetime bans. You rarely see a full life sentence in this country, there has to be a route to rehabilitation for everyone bar the worst of the worse. John Terry, Ron Atkinson and Gary Ballance. Should they all be banned for life?

 

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Forget the courts, they should put him in a room with Rio and make him repeat what he said and let Rio beat the ignorance out of him. An eye for an eye and all that.

In modern society there’s simply no place for racism, homophobia or discrimination of any sort.

In modern society, there's simply no place for vigilante/mob rule.
Thankfully there are courts and penalties proscribed for offenders to societies rules.
You only have to read this thread to see what would happen if penalties were decided by the general public while emotions are high.

 

[WickedWolfie]

I’m generally quite a forgiving person and think people deserve a second chance, but what really winds me up is him denying his actions.

If morons want to behave like this, at least have the courage to admit what you’ve done.

No doubt, he’ll plead not guilty to the Rio Ferdinand related charges, wasting everybody’s precious time.

Cue the "I wouldn't behave like that normally when l'm sober, l can't believe that l did it" type comments when he's convicted and sent down...

 

[Sussex Wolf]

In modern society, there's simply no place for vigilante/mob rule.
Thankfully there are courts and penalties proscribed for offenders to societies rules.
You only have to read this thread to see what would happen if penalties were decided by the general public while emotions are high.

I agree completely. However as I commented above, given what he’s accused of, if he ends up in jail he may get some mob justice inside whether it’s right or wrong.

 

[WickedWolfie]

In modern society, there's simply no place for vigilante/mob rule.
Thankfully there are courts and penalties proscribed for offenders to societies rules.
You only have to read this thread to see what would happen if penalties were decided by the general public while emotions are high.

In principle l agree. Whether economic arguments mean that penalties are currently set too low is a whole other debate.

 

[Padraig]

Banned indefinitely say Wolves. Thought this was a good article.

Wolves thank fans after hate crime conviction

Wolves have thanked the supporters that witnessed, reported and provided statements of discriminatory abuse, which led to the conviction of a supporter...

www.wolves.co.uk

 

[Wolf316]

Banned indefinitely say Wolves. Thought this was a good article.

Wolves thank fans after hate crime conviction

Wolves have thanked the supporters that witnessed, reported and provided statements of discriminatory abuse, which led to the conviction of a supporter...

www.wolves.co.uk

Sorted

 

[WickedWolfie]

Banned indefinitely say Wolves. Thought this was a good article.

Wolves thank fans after hate crime conviction

Wolves have thanked the supporters that witnessed, reported and provided statements of discriminatory abuse, which led to the conviction of a supporter...

www.wolves.co.uk

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Just need him to go down for a couple of years when he's tried next year for the Ferdinand incident now....

 

[Guzeppi]

Witch.
Witch?
Where are you witch?
We need you for our hunting party.

 

[Golden Oldie]

I agree but hurling a pie isn’t in the same as hurling racist and homophobic abuse

Jonzy that is an amazing response. The potential to blind someone, knock them off balance and cause physical damage to them - and potentially others, as well as the shock factor of an unexpected impact is, according to your response, less of an upset than a few words intended as an insult.
I can only say you can hurl all the insults at me you so wish, but from that I would not wish you to assume I would prefer a pie to be hurled at me, because I am not stark staring bonkers.
You might find my preferences to be a viewpoint held by the vast majority of people.

 

[Henry Palfrey]

or a stale pork pie,but red hot pie in the eye could be serious but magistrates would take that into consideration
along with relevant factors
behaviour at grounds is now a lot better than when quite often you had to fight to get into
and out of grounds in the 60s/70s/80s

It certainly didn’t do Ernie any good

 

[WickedWolfie]

It certainly didn’t do Ernie any good

Ended his milkcart driving career....

 

[Jonzy54]

Jonzy that is an amazing response. The potential to blind someone, knock them off balance and cause physical damage to them - and potentially others, as well as the shock factor of an unexpected impact is, according to your response, less of an upset than a few words intended as an insult.
I can only say you can hurl all the insults at me you so wish, but from that I would not wish you to assume I would prefer a pie to be hurled at me, because I am not stark staring bonkers.
You might find my preferences to be a viewpoint held by the vast majority of people.

Yes I do acknowledge being hit by a pie isn’t pleasant.I can personally vouch for this at Burnley a few years ago when their fans thought it was a good idea to bombard the Wolves fans with pies and I too got hit .
My point was really aimed at the modern trend of people thinking they can say /type what they like and get away with it and was probably not the best comparison.

 

[thetwistedsock]

It could be worse if it’s red hot liquid inside comes into contact with the eye

She got 3 year ban, appealed it and it was rejected

100% Cuckoo.

 

[1972 i began]

Yes I do acknowledge being hit by a pie isn’t pleasant.I can personally vouch for this at Burnley a few years ago when their fans thought it was a good idea to bombard the Wolves fans with pies and I too got hit .
My point was really aimed at the modern trend of people thinking they can say /type what they like and get away with it and was probably not the best comparison.

gone a bit daft in the head ay they,they used to throw darts at ya in the 70s.

 

[Golden Oldie]

Yes I do acknowledge being hit by a pie isn’t pleasant.I can personally vouch for this at Burnley a few years ago when their fans thought it was a good idea to bombard the Wolves fans with pies and I too got hit .
My point was really aimed at the modern trend of people thinking they can say /type what they like and get away with it and was probably not the best comparison.

Fair enough, and as we do live in a rapidly changing world not all judgements are going to sit easily with one another. As an aside, an article just flagged up on my screen, via my IP, suggests false Covid vaccine information, deliberately spread, should be classed a criminal offence. I can appreciate the exasperation behind the sentiments, but I can also imagine many a legal beagle rubbing their hands at the prospect.

 

[Jonzy54]

gone a bit daft in the head ay they,they used to throw darts at ya in the

gone a bit daft in the head ay they,they used to throw darts at ya in the 70s.

Had ‘brown stuff’ chucked at us at Millwall back in the 70’s-delightful

 

[Jonzy54]

gone a bit daft in the head ay they,they used to throw darts at ya in the

gone a bit daft in the head ay they,they used to throw darts at ya in the 70s.

Had ‘brown stuff’ chucked at us at Millwall back in the 70’s-delightful

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Fair point, but when you take into account the alleged racial abuse of Rio, if also found guilty, then surely it demonstrates what type of person we're talking about?

Of course it does. But then the thread title and newspaper headlines don't have to be so "click baity" or misleading.

Call him out for the crime he has committed. Not something worse, that he didn't. He's clearly a ****, and I look forward to reading the headline - Racist Wolves fan banned for life - when convicted.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Jonzy that is an amazing response. The potential to blind someone, knock them off balance and cause physical damage to them - and potentially others, as well as the shock factor of an unexpected impact is, according to your response, less of an upset than a few words intended as an insult.
I can only say you can hurl all the insults at me you so wish, but from that I would not wish you to assume I would prefer a pie to be hurled at me, because I am not stark staring bonkers.
You might find my preferences to be a viewpoint held by the vast majority of people.

It's a view shared by me. And I've been racially *abused*.

I've inserted ** not to trivialise racial abuse, but my own experiences are unusual.

 

[Deleted member 11021Mcm]

Assuming the season ticket waiting list has gone down by 1 and there is a lucky recipient of this guys season ticket…..

 

[Deleted member 7862Bler]

Assuming the season ticket waiting list has gone down by 1 and there is a lucky recipient of this guys season ticket…..

Assuming the ticket will be in south bank

 

[Deleted member 11021Mcm]

Assuming the ticket will be in south bank

If I had the ability to give likes/ leave emoji’s I’d give you a laughing face emoji for this.

 

[Focke Wolf]

Jonzy that is an amazing response. The potential to blind someone, knock them off balance and cause physical damage to them - and potentially others, as well as the shock factor of an unexpected impact is, according to your response, less of an upset than a few words intended as an insult.
I can only say you can hurl all the insults at me you so wish, but from that I would not wish you to assume I would prefer a pie to be hurled at me, because I am not stark staring bonkers.
You might find my preferences to be a viewpoint held by the vast majority of people.

But it’s not just that is it. What may be ‘just an insult’ to you can mean something completely different to someone else. Insults based on colour, and gender etc have the ability to wreck someone’s life and make them feel claustrophobic, trapped, anxious, alienated and depressed and in some cases worse. Can a smack in the mouth do that? Being homophobic or racist isn’t sticks and stones, but is in fact abusing someone for something they can do absolutely nothing about, whether it be Rio Ferdinand, the ref, another fan, your next door neighbour or anyone else. And as regards your last sentence - I take it you’re joking right?

 

[Focke Wolf]

I do get it. I get that he's used derogatory terms for disabled/gay and directed them at someone who is neither disabled or gay.

Which is completely different to hurling the same words at the disabled section at Molineux or a couple of lads holding hands outside a gay bar.

One could be described as a hate crime, but not the other.

You’ve got that wrong. It doesn’t matter who he aims the comments at, anybody can take offence at it and report it as a hate incident even if they’re not the recipient of the said derogative terms. In essence a third party can take offence.

 

[ricki herberts moustache]

I find these sorts of threads interesting. Same way I find discussions about vaccine mandates interesting: under the thin veneer of civility some really dark forces lurk within some people

doesn't seem to take much at all for people to show their ugly side

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

You’ve got that wrong. It doesn’t matter who he aims the comments at, anybody can take offence at it and report it as a hate incident even if they’re not the recipient of the said derogative terms. In essence a third party can take offence.

You're wrong. Research the law, I did. I'm correct.

 

[Focke Wolf]

You're wrong. Research the law, I did. I'm correct.

Can you please tell me which part of my statement you think is wrong, then I can respond accordingly. Thanks.