VAR Protest

[Darvo]

For the good of the game, between now and the end of the season, we should demonstrate against VAR.

What’s the most effective and impactful way?

Answers on a postcard please …

 

[RosehillWolf]

Walk off the pitch at Anfield after kicking off

 

[Roger]

For the good of the game, between now and the end of the season, we should demonstrate against VAR.

What’s the most effective and impactful way?

Answers on a postcard please …

The only way to get rid of this VAR disease is for all PL Managers to meet on how to get rid

 

[DJLWolf]

No fans.

Obviously that's not going to happen, but I'm a big believer that the only way of being noticed is voting with your feet.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Suggest that we alternate "Premier League, corrupt as ****" with "PGMOL, corrupt as ****" all game every game. Time to target the incompetent at best downright bent at worst officials directly and consistently. Particularly during the Sky Six televised games.

Do our damnedest to damage the PL's precious "product"!

 

[WickedWolfie]

For the good of the game, between now and the end of the season, we should demonstrate against VAR.

What’s the most effective and impactful way?

Answers on a postcard please …

The most impactful would be to do a Fenerbahce and destroy the credibility of the PL as a competition....

Fenerbahce field youth players in Super Cup against Galatasaray - then walk off after one minute

Galatasaray were awarded the win as the game was abandoned after Mauro Icardi scored within seconds

uk.yahoo.com

 

[Ned]

Suggest that we alternate "Premier League, corrupt as ****" with "PGMOL, corrupt as ****" all game every game. Time to target the incompetent at best downright bent at worst officials directly and consistently. Particularly during the Sky Six televised games.

Do our damnedest to damage the PL's precious "product"!

There’s no way out travelling fans could cope with the extra syllable in the song!

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Sure there's a thread from October time with lots of suggestions.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Ordinarily I’d be against any sort of protests in football as they rarely achieve anything, however fans up and down the country are rightly fed up with VAR (and how it’s interpreted) that if we protested we could potentially be the catalyst for others to do so. However it would (for me) need to be a club lead initiative to carry real weight. GON and especially Shi as chairman having their say really carries some weight, hence why the latter is being talked about a lot in the media. Realistically every club, manager, player and fan in the country is fed up of how it is so everyone needs to unite together, however for various reasons I cant see that happening

 

[glorybox]

The only way to get rid of this VAR disease is for all PL Managers to meet on how to get rid

Totally agree. However it really doesn't help when you get people like Moyes saying one thing behind closed doors and then something different to the media just because it was in his club's favour.

 

[thommo1984]

Has to come from the clubs / players / management. They don’t care about the fans I’m afraid.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Empty grounds will damage the PL product…

 

[old wittonian]

Have we had the benefit of Webb's views yet?

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

It needs to be the officials.

I genuinely don’t know, but was Saturday the second VAR mistake against us this season? After the second Fulham penalty I believe.

If so, even thought it’s unacceptable, 2 mistakes in 31 games is not worth a protest.

Against the officials, who have done us many, many more times, and I’d be in. The refereeing against us this season is hard to accept.

 

[Willywolf]

It needs to be the officials.

I genuinely don’t know, but was Saturday the second VAR mistake against us this season? After the second Fulham penalty I believe.

If so, even thought it’s unacceptable, 2 mistakes in 31 games is not worth a protest.

Against the officials, who have done us many, many more times, and I’d be in. The refereeing against us this season is hard to accept.

Are you discounting the Man Utd error (not awarding a penalty) or the sheff Utd error (awarding them a penalty)? I think it’s the sheer inconsistency in how the rules are being applied and the game essentially being re-refereed by a VAR that is worth discussion in relation to any potential protests.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Are you discounting the Man Utd error (not awarding a penalty) or the sheff Utd error (awarding them a penalty)? I think it’s the sheer inconsistency in how the rules are being applied and the game essentially being re-refereed by a VAR that is worth discussion in relation to any potential protests.

Yes I am because the officials gave them.

No VAR (as many of you want) and those outcomes still happen.

But yes I get your broader point. However, the biggest problem for us this season has undoubtedly been the on-field decision.

 

[Willywolf]

Yes I am because the officials gave them.

No VAR (as many of you want) and those outcomes still happen.

But yes I get your broader point. However, the biggest problem for us this season has undoubtedly been the on-field decision.

Think it’s fair to say the standard of officiating this season has been very low, despite Howard Webb’s appointment.

 

[Frank Lincoln]

Yes I am because the officials gave them.

No VAR (as many of you want) and those outcomes still happen.

Without VAR I am not sure the outcomes would be the same. Referees are now relying on VAR to help them out, and without it they may not make the calls they do. There is no doubt in my mind that the standard of refereeing has gone down since VAR was introduced. Webb says that VAR is not there to re referee the game, but that is exactly what is happening. A referee is now giving a decision he wouldn’t have given previously, knowing VAR will help him out.

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Suggest that we alternate "Premier League, corrupt as ****" with "PGMOL, corrupt as ****" all game every game. Time to target the incompetent at best downright bent at worst officials directly and consistently. Particularly during the Sky Six televised games.

Do our damnedest to damage the PL's precious "product"!

They'll just turn the effects microphones down (or off).

Empty stadiums (or significantly reduced attendances) is the best visual way of protesting.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

Without VAR I am not sure the outcomes would be the same. Referees are now relying on VAR to help them out, and without it they may not make the calls they do. There is no doubt in my mind that the standard of refereeing has gone down since VAR was introduced. Webb says that VAR is not there to re referee the game, but that is exactly what is happening. A referee is now giving a decision he wouldn’t have given previously, knowing VAR will help him out.

Perhaps, and I probably would agree in general.

However, with ours specifically, the natural stance would be to not give a penalty and then wait to see. For example, the Schar and Baldock dives and the first one at Fulham. Logic would be 'I'm not sure about that', so give nothing and wait to see what VAR says. Instead, they inexplicably went the other way!

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

They'll just turn the effects microphones down (or off).

Empty stadiums (or significantly reduced attendances) is the best visual way or protesting.

Empty stadiums would work but always too many other people that would ignore it and go anyways. The only other way is to interrupt the game tennis balls as someone else suggested. Delaying the games week in week out will frustrate the PL

 

[Jefe]

Walk off the pitch at Anfield after kicking off

Imagine if Wolves handed Liverpool the league title with a default 3-0 win because we walked off the pitch. Not only would referees probably screw us even harder after that out of bloody-mindedness, we would probably become the most hated team in England for quite a long time.

 

[Oliwolf44]

German fans get stuff cancelled/amended all the time with protests. Monday night football matches and tv fixture moves all abandoned due to fan pressure. English fans arent as organised, most in the ground arent as invested in the fabric of football and passive. Protests are seen as uncouth in the UK in general so it wont ever happen.

 

[Perton Wolf]

German fans get stuff cancelled/amended all the time with protests. Monday night football matches and tv fixture moves all abandoned due to fan pressure. English fans arent as organised, most in the ground arent as invested in the fabric of football and passive. Protests are seen as uncouth in the UK in general so it wont ever happen.

The British have a tendency to put up with whatever, whole 'stiff upper lip' and all that.

Means those with wealth and power can take the ****, quite frankly. Applies to the Premier League, too.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

It is going to take something radical like picketing Stockly Park on match days to stop the idiots entering the building in the first place. Why isn't Howard Webb made to come on TV and explain the complete and utter balls up he is making of the beautiful game.

What is the most important thing in football right now is not how it is played but how referees are judged to have applied the letter of the law. They can't see the irony in that trying to avoid criticism they are ruining our National Game.

 

[manchesterwolf17]

We have the biggest platform imaginable on the final day of the season in what will be a nothing game for us where we're expected to turn up and lose. Disrupting that will get noticed I assure you.

 

[Watfordfc]

We have the biggest platform imaginable on the final day of the season

Well if Liverpool don’t win the league by 2 points they will look at that farce about the officials at Spurs and their “offside goal “

 

[manchesterwolf17]

Well if Liverpool don’t win the league by 2 points they will look at that farce about the officials at Spurs and their “offside goal “

The more the merrier.

 

[DJLWolf]

Without VAR I am not sure the outcomes would be the same. Referees are now relying on VAR to help them out, and without it they may not make the calls they do. There is no doubt in my mind that the standard of refereeing has gone down since VAR was introduced. Webb says that VAR is not there to re referee the game, but that is exactly what is happening. A referee is now giving a decision he wouldn’t have given previously, knowing VAR will help him out.

Completely agree with this.

It's completely impacted their decision making and not for the better unfortunately.That is one of the big problems.

 

[the genius]

It is going to take something radical like picketing Stockly Park on match days to stop the idiots entering the building in the first place. Why isn't Howard Webb made to come on TV and explain the complete and utter balls up he is making of the beautiful game.

What is the most important thing in football right now is not how it is played but how referees are judged to have applied the letter of the law. They can't see the irony in that trying to avoid criticism they are ruining our National Game.

I'm pretty certain that when he does his show with Owen he just picks the incidents Var got right as opposed to the many they get wrong. Utterly pathetic

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

It needs to be the officials.

I genuinely don’t know, but was Saturday the second VAR mistake against us this season? After the second Fulham penalty I believe.

If so, even thought it’s unacceptable, 2 mistakes in 31 games is not worth a protest.

Against the officials, who have done us many, many more times, and I’d be in. The refereeing against us this season is hard to accept.

Rarely we agree, but we’re on the same page with this. It needs to be about officiating in general

 

[Ginger Chimp]

Empty stadiums would work but always too many other people that would ignore it and go anyways. The only other way is to interrupt the game tennis balls as someone else suggested. Delaying the games week in week out will frustrate the PL

Yes, that would work too. Maybe soft toys so kids charities can benefit (?).

A visual protest that cannot be hidden or "technically" avoided.

 

[NJ Wolves]

"**** VAR" sung throughout the entire match

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Yes, that would work too. Maybe soft toys so kids charities can benefit (?).

A visual protest that cannot be hidden or "technically" avoided.

We could all sneak in condoms, blow them up and release them onto the pitch in say the 69th minute. Would be an apt protest, given that a bunch of knobs are ****ing up our game and turning it into a sterile farce!

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

"**** VAR" sung throughout the entire match

**** VAR...... and Howard Webb.......

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

PL corrupt AF gets noticed but you need something more physical. Kids toys an idea but ultimately the clubs would still vote in favour of VAR even if they held a referendum we are screwed

 

[TheWolfFromWolverhampton]

It's David versus Goliath this battle verses VAR. Having said that, lawfully speaking. I can think of lots of ways to voice discontent. We could phone up Talk Sport, and complain, and talk to the pundits on there. Use Banners. Someone said the use of whistles, yet not sure how this would work? Could do what Everton did and just bring those pink placards with 'corrupt'.

In all honesty, I have been scratching my head trying to think of ways to complain, yet this battle has been going on for so long now. I think a lawful and peaceful protest is within everyone's human rights. Can't get fined for that. As long as it's organised, and you liaise with the plod, and don't do anything silly like.