The only way to get rid of this VAR disease is for all PL Managers to meet on how to get ridFor the good of the game, between now and the end of the season, we should demonstrate against VAR.
What’s the most effective and impactful way?
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The most impactful would be to do a Fenerbahce and destroy the credibility of the PL as a competition....For the good of the game, between now and the end of the season, we should demonstrate against VAR.
What’s the most effective and impactful way?
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There’s no way out travelling fans could cope with the extra syllable in the song!Suggest that we alternate "Premier League, corrupt as ****" with "PGMOL, corrupt as ****" all game every game. Time to target the incompetent at best downright bent at worst officials directly and consistently. Particularly during the Sky Six televised games.
Do our damnedest to damage the PL's precious "product"!
Totally agree. However it really doesn't help when you get people like Moyes saying one thing behind closed doors and then something different to the media just because it was in his club's favour.The only way to get rid of this VAR disease is for all PL Managers to meet on how to get rid
Are you discounting the Man Utd error (not awarding a penalty) or the sheff Utd error (awarding them a penalty)? I think it’s the sheer inconsistency in how the rules are being applied and the game essentially being re-refereed by a VAR that is worth discussion in relation to any potential protests.It needs to be the officials.
I genuinely don’t know, but was Saturday the second VAR mistake against us this season? After the second Fulham penalty I believe.
If so, even thought it’s unacceptable, 2 mistakes in 31 games is not worth a protest.
Against the officials, who have done us many, many more times, and I’d be in. The refereeing against us this season is hard to accept.
Yes I am because the officials gave them.Are you discounting the Man Utd error (not awarding a penalty) or the sheff Utd error (awarding them a penalty)? I think it’s the sheer inconsistency in how the rules are being applied and the game essentially being re-refereed by a VAR that is worth discussion in relation to any potential protests.
Think it’s fair to say the standard of officiating this season has been very low, despite Howard Webb’s appointment.Yes I am because the officials gave them.
No VAR (as many of you want) and those outcomes still happen.
But yes I get your broader point. However, the biggest problem for us this season has undoubtedly been the on-field decision.
Yes I am because the officials gave them.
No VAR (as many of you want) and those outcomes still happen.
They'll just turn the effects microphones down (or off).Suggest that we alternate "Premier League, corrupt as ****" with "PGMOL, corrupt as ****" all game every game. Time to target the incompetent at best downright bent at worst officials directly and consistently. Particularly during the Sky Six televised games.
Do our damnedest to damage the PL's precious "product"!
Without VAR I am not sure the outcomes would be the same. Referees are now relying on VAR to help them out, and without it they may not make the calls they do. There is no doubt in my mind that the standard of refereeing has gone down since VAR was introduced. Webb says that VAR is not there to re referee the game, but that is exactly what is happening. A referee is now giving a decision he wouldn’t have given previously, knowing VAR will help him out.
Empty stadiums would work but always too many other people that would ignore it and go anyways. The only other way is to interrupt the game tennis balls as someone else suggested. Delaying the games week in week out will frustrate the PLThey'll just turn the effects microphones down (or off).
Empty stadiums (or significantly reduced attendances) is the best visual way or protesting.
Imagine if Wolves handed Liverpool the league title with a default 3-0 win because we walked off the pitch. Not only would referees probably screw us even harder after that out of bloody-mindedness, we would probably become the most hated team in England for quite a long time.Walk off the pitch at Anfield after kicking off
The British have a tendency to put up with whatever, whole 'stiff upper lip' and all that.German fans get stuff cancelled/amended all the time with protests. Monday night football matches and tv fixture moves all abandoned due to fan pressure. English fans arent as organised, most in the ground arent as invested in the fabric of football and passive. Protests are seen as uncouth in the UK in general so it wont ever happen.
Well if Liverpool don’t win the league by 2 points they will look at that farce about the officials at Spurs and their “offside goal “We have the biggest platform imaginable on the final day of the season
Well if Liverpool don’t win the league by 2 points they will look at that farce about the officials at Spurs and their “offside goal “
Completely agree with this.Without VAR I am not sure the outcomes would be the same. Referees are now relying on VAR to help them out, and without it they may not make the calls they do. There is no doubt in my mind that the standard of refereeing has gone down since VAR was introduced. Webb says that VAR is not there to re referee the game, but that is exactly what is happening. A referee is now giving a decision he wouldn’t have given previously, knowing VAR will help him out.
I'm pretty certain that when he does his show with Owen he just picks the incidents Var got right as opposed to the many they get wrong. Utterly patheticIt is going to take something radical like picketing Stockly Park on match days to stop the idiots entering the building in the first place. Why isn't Howard Webb made to come on TV and explain the complete and utter balls up he is making of the beautiful game.
What is the most important thing in football right now is not how it is played but how referees are judged to have applied the letter of the law. They can't see the irony in that trying to avoid criticism they are ruining our National Game.
Rarely we agree, but we’re on the same page with this. It needs to be about officiating in generalIt needs to be the officials.
I genuinely don’t know, but was Saturday the second VAR mistake against us this season? After the second Fulham penalty I believe.
If so, even thought it’s unacceptable, 2 mistakes in 31 games is not worth a protest.
Against the officials, who have done us many, many more times, and I’d be in. The refereeing against us this season is hard to accept.
Yes, that would work too. Maybe soft toys so kids charities can benefit (?).Empty stadiums would work but always too many other people that would ignore it and go anyways. The only other way is to interrupt the game tennis balls as someone else suggested. Delaying the games week in week out will frustrate the PL
We could all sneak in condoms, blow them up and release them onto the pitch in say the 69th minute. Would be an apt protest, given that a bunch of knobs are ****ing up our game and turning it into a sterile farce!Yes, that would work too. Maybe soft toys so kids charities can benefit (?).
A visual protest that cannot be hidden or "technically" avoided.
**** VAR...... and Howard Webb......."**** VAR" sung throughout the entire match