Team vs Forest

[JohnB]

Sa back, Bueno injured? 4 or 5;at back?

Bentley
Dawson Kilman Toti
Doc Lemina Gomes Semedo
Bellegarde Cunha Hwang

Subs King Bueno Chirewa Doyle Traore Sarabia Sasa Silva +1

Bellegarde in for rotation not dropping Sarabia.

 

[Pengwern]

No play Pablo again! He is a very creative player!

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Think Bueno was just very bad cramp wasn't it? Hopefully fine to go again.

Actually feel like it's hard to put Sa back in after Bentley's played nearly 2 games without conceding.

So maybe the same side again for me if there are no injury issues.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

same team, just.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

Bentley
Semedo Dawson Kilman Toti
Lemina Gomes
Bellegrade Sarabia
Hwang Cunha

I thought Beuno was poor

 

[old wittonian]

Bentley
Semedo Dawson Kilman Toti
Lemina Gomes
Bellegrade Sarabia
Hwang Cunha

I thought Beuno was poor

He didn't look fully match fit to me.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Can people not see we play 4-4-2..

And have been for a bit ...

As the pressure is off , if Bueno is out gamble......just use both Sarabia n bellegarde....

 

[loppers86]

He didn't look fully match fit to me.

he’s the new Ruben Vinaigre: all
stupid step overs, stopping, going backwards.

 

[Ned]

Can people not see we play 4-4-2..

And have been for a bit ...

As the pressure is off , if Bueno is out gamble......just use both Sarabia n bellegarde....

It’s fluid. We go to between a 4 and a 3 in and out of possession and depending how the game is going.

 

[Ned]

Bentley
Semedo Kilman Dawson Toti Bueno
Lemina Gomes
Bellegarde
Hwang Cunha


It’s a tough one as last night we were blunt going forward but we don’t have the options we need in attacking areas.

Would be tempted to play Traore for Bellegarde in case it’s a scrap early doors.

Bentley doesn’t really deserve to be dropped yet but I can see Sa coming in if fit.

 

[Minimalist]

Can people not see we play 4-4-2..

And have been for a bit ...

As the pressure is off , if Bueno is out gamble......just use both Sarabia n bellegarde....

As I’ve said elsewhere, if we were genuinely playing a back 4 Dawson would be on the right and Killman on the left. It is a fluid system, but its basis is a back 3/5.

 

[JamesWolves]

Can people not see we play 4-4-2..

And have been for a bit ...

As the pressure is off , if Bueno is out gamble......just use both Sarabia n bellegarde....

Its very much 5 at the back in the defensive phase and 442 when we are on the attack.

 

[lets all have a disco]

As I’ve said elsewhere, if we were genuinely playing a back 4 Dawson would be on the right and Killman on the left. It is a fluid system, but its basis is a back 3/5.

I thought it was quite rigid yesterday as 4-4-2.....

There was next to no movement away from it... obviously Bueno helped defensively....but the lack of movement apart was very rigid in 4-4-2.......hence we didn't notice Cunha at all....as his movement or instructions were very rigid.....off course it can switch but it was more 4-4-2

 

[Chris H]

I thought it was quite rigid yesterday as 4-4-2.....

There was next to no movement away from it... obviously Bueno helped defensively....but the lack of movement apart was very rigid in 4-4-2.......hence we didn't notice Cunha at all....as his movement or instructions were very rigid.....off course it can switch but it was more 4-4-2

Who scored average positions suggests it was still a hybrid between the two with Bueno higher than Semedo, and with Dawson pretty much central and Gomes wider than Kilman but still narrower than a typical full back.

 

[Plovdiv Wolf]

Bentley

Kilman Dawson Toti

Semedo Lemina Bellegarde Ait-Nouri

Sarabia Hwang Cunha

Red card for MGW

 

[Northampton_wolf]

id play both bellegarde and sarabia if ran isnt fit

with

a 4-2-3-1

Bentley

Semedo Kilman Dawson Toti

Gomes Lemina

Cunha Sarabia Bellegarde

Hwang


If rans fit back to the trust just straight swap out for bueno, but bring bellegarde on earlier!!!

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

I thought it was quite rigid yesterday as 4-4-2.....

There was next to no movement away from it... obviously Bueno helped defensively....but the lack of movement apart was very rigid in 4-4-2.......hence we didn't notice Cunha at all....as his movement or instructions were very rigid.....off course it can switch but it was more 4-4-2

Oddly I've been saying that for ages, at Sheff U for example, and initially at Fulham, it looked totally 442 to me, even out of possession RAN wasn't dropping back at all. Last night though I felt it was much more wing backs. I did think we went a bit 442 for a time in the second half. My biggest issue with it first half was that Sarabia and even more so Hwang were so wide. Semedo also got forward much more. I bet him and Bueno had similar heat maps.

Edit - maybe not, Bueno a bit wider and less defensive work, they did attack down their left a lot though.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Sod the team and system...

Let's get Cooper the sack ...

Revenge for spit gate incident.....

 

[North West Wanderer]

he’s the new Ruben Vinaigre: all
stupid step overs, stopping, going backwards.

or he’s not fit and it finding his confidence again.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

he’s the new Ruben Vinaigre: all
stupid step overs, stopping, going backwards.

harsh didnt do that the year before, just looks like getting back to form and confidence

 

[fleck1]

Sa for Bentley only change if fit, he's our number one and come straight back in. Sounds like RAN is a couple of weeks away, without Neto I, think we lack options with legs off the bench when starting Hwang, Bellegarde and Cunha together, so maybe Sarabia again with one of the other three to add some pace against tired legs in the second half.

 

[WolfLing]

Red card for MGW

For spitting.

 

[Tring Wolf]

Sa/Bentley
Semedo, Dawson, Kilman, RAN/Toti
Lemina, Traore
Neto/Sarabia, Bellegarde, Hwang
Cunha

 

[old wittonian]

he’s the new Ruben Vinaigre: all
stupid step overs, stopping, going backwards.

I think he's better than that personally.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

he’s the new Ruben Vinaigre: all
stupid step overs, stopping, going backwards.

Vinagre had pace.

 

[loppers86]

Vinagre had pace.

true, but then he fooled himself with step overs, stopped to have a think about it and then lost the ball. bueno is an improvement in
that he goes backwards to avoid losing the ball.

 

[Rowzed]

or he’s not fit and it finding his confidence again.

He‘s in off the back of a load related injury, I doubt he will start both games in the week if there is an alternative ( Rayan or Doc, presumably not Jonny )
He didn’t look like he was wanting to get too far forward and take his man on perhaps because he doesn’t believe he has the top end pace to recover yet. But he has the drive to recover fully with time, and will be needed as the December fixtures mount up.

 

[StaffordWolf]

Really want us to get at these from the whistle, they're fragile and there for the taking. I'd love to see:

Sa
Semedo Dawson Kilman Toti
Gomes Lemina
Bellegarde Sarabia Hwang
Cunha

Neto for Sarabia if fit and move Bellegarde behind Cunha.

That said, I think we stick with the 5 defenders.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

He‘s in off the back of a load related injury, I doubt he will start both games in the week if there is an alternative ( Rayan or Doc, presumably not Jonny )
He didn’t look like he was wanting to get too far forward and take his man on perhaps because he doesn’t believe he has the top end pace to recover yet. But he has the drive to recover fully with time, and will be needed as the December fixtures mount up.

Not to mention during AFCON.

 

[ombyman]

Who scored average positions suggests it was still a hybrid between the two with Bueno higher than Semedo, and with Dawson pretty much central and Gomes wider than Kilman but still narrower than a typical full back.

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But it also has Gomes stood on Lemina's shoulders

 

[Bognor_Wolf]

---------------------Sa-------------------
-Semedo----Dawson----Kilman-----Toti-
-------------Lemina-----Gomes---------
-Bellegarde--------Sarabia--------Hwang-
------------------Cunha-------------------

 

[QB Wolf]

Who scored average positions suggests it was still a hybrid between the two with Bueno higher than Semedo, and with Dawson pretty much central and Gomes wider than Kilman but still narrower than a typical full back.

View attachment 38868

So it's a 3-4-3 essentially

 

[Golden Oldie]

I do wonder how these playing permutations come to mean so much to we mere spectators. As pointed out we may well have been playing to one that would be all the rage ... if only we would adopt it!!

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Put them to the sword, fragile, and if they arent playing for cooper really turn the knife

Early goal should see us through

 

[JamesWolves]

Rumour has it Cooper needs a win Saturday or he's been axed.

So I'm expecting a Wolves classic

 

[Perton Wolf]

---------------------Sa-------------------
-Semedo----Dawson----Kilman-----Toti-
-------------Lemina-----Gomes---------
-Bellegarde--------Sarabia--------Hwang-
------------------Cunha-------------------

Would also be tempted to play Toti LB in a 4 as Bueno clearly isn't fit yet at LWB and isn't really offering going forward.

You'd be tempted to keep Hwang more central though and have Cunha in a wider position, considering the former's eye for a goal. I think that was the plan on Tuesday during the second half, too.

 

[geowolf]

Control the midfield….

………………….Bentley
Semedo…..Kilman….Dawson…..Toti
………Doyle….Gomes….Lemina
………………..Bellegarde
……………Cunha……..Hwang

 

[Gold Umbro]

I’d be interested to see Bellegarde and Sarabia play in the same side. Two technicians.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

I’d be interested to see Bellegarde and Sarabia play in the same side. Two technicians.

yes 4 at the back please with both cut them

 

[QB Wolf]

Clean sheet and the 3 forwards combined to score the winner on Tuesday. One of the things I like about GON is he nearly always picks the most logical team that a lot of posters pick, guessing a Lopetegui or Lage team was impossible, although the former used subs to have a finishing team as well as a starting team, GON is more of a start your best available team man........ so expect an unchanged side on Saturday, it's the logical choice.