Summer Transfer Window 2022.

[SA Wolf]

Simply dreadful from our point of view. Palace a lot more attractive side now.

And even Brighton. I was derided for suggesting that Brighton played more attractive football than us.

 

[SA Wolf]

Doesn't the wage bill equate to league position at the end of the season

Generally yes. In Mick's time, we were one of the 4 lowest payers in the Prem and although he kept us up for 3 seasons, eventually we succumbed to relegation due to our inability to compete with higher paying clubs.

 

[MattH]

It's all about money.

Jimenez up for sale, one of the highest earners.
Saiss leaves and The Athletic confirms it was to do with wages.
Ruddy expected to stay, Lage wants him to stay, it's clearly about wages.
Moutinho a high earner, looks like he's off.
Neves will be a high earner, will be leaving.

Now, I'm not getting into whether these decisions or right or wrong, just pointing out that it's quite obvious what we're doing and it doesn't bode well.

They should just sell us instead of undoing the great work they've done by putting us back to where we started.

Lage has stated he wants a bigger squad. If we're at the limit of our wage budget that means moving high earners on to bring in a net gain in lower earners.

Doesn't necessarily mean we're reducing the budget, we'll have to judge that at the end of the window.

 

[Minimalist]

Lage has stated he wants a bigger squad. If we're at the limit of our wage budget that means moving high earners on to bring in a net gain in lower earners.

Doesn't necessarily mean we're reducing the budget, we'll have to judge that at the end of the window.

Precisely why I personally have always been in favour of the small squad philosophy!
Less numbers but more quality.

 

[MattH]

Precisely why I personally have always been in favour of the small squad philosophy!
Less numbers but more quality.

I suppose either way works depending on how the manager wants the squad. But a larger squad doesn't necessarily mean fewer quality players, just more hard work finding the bargains.

 

[VancouverWolf]

It's all about money.

Jimenez up for sale, one of the highest earners.
Saiss leaves and The Athletic confirms it was to do with wages.
Ruddy expected to stay, Lage wants him to stay, it's clearly about wages.
Moutinho a high earner, looks like he's off.
Neves will be a high earner, will be leaving.

Now, I'm not getting into whether these decisions or right or wrong, just pointing out that it's quite obvious what we're doing and it doesn't bode well.

They should just sell us instead of undoing the great work they've done by putting us back to where we started.

People have been nagging on about needing changes for several windows ……well now they might get their wishes fulfilled.
I don’t see it as a bad thing. After two bad seasons, ( football qualitywise), some players leaving and new players arriving could be a positive catalyst.

 

[IFA Wolf]

I’m no manager but if Barca can’t afford to take Traore and they can’t afford Raphina from Leeds. I’m sure that Leeds were interested in Traore at one point and they could be a deal there to be done? Doubt they would take a straight swap but Traore and some cash?

 

[oldgoldheart]

i put this in the pub thread but may be worth repeating here. my mate told me that the promotional photoshoot wont include

saiss, neves, jimenez, moutinho and MGW. so, moutinho to roma is likely.

big gamble by wolves...

 

[Deleted member sbk12944]

People have been nagging on about needing changes for several windows ……well now they might get their wishes fulfilled.
I don’t see it as a bad thing. After two bad seasons, ( football qualitywise), some players leaving and new players arriving could be a positive catalyst.

Tbf it could be looked at as a positive outlook for any incoming players as they will/more likely have a chance to prove themselves and stake a claim for the spots they play in.

 

[Cornwall Wolf]

Thought I had read somewhere that a new rule was coming in the Premier League where salaries could not go over 70% of total turnover .. but I might have been wrong ..

 

[VancouverWolf]

Bale is out of contract next month.

Wonder if at 32 he will retire or like to join a PL club as an impact sub for a season or two.

He, ( coughs), might like to come to Wolves……
nothing to prove, no pressure to perform miracles at Spurs or similar again, close to Wales and speaks the language, ( Spanish/Portuguese….lol), albeit not very well.
And he could look great in our colours.
Hey…..just saying, is all

 

[Bognor_Wolf]

Bale is out of contract next month.

Wonder if at 32 he will retire or like to join a PL club as an impact sub for a season or two.

He, ( coughs), might like to come to Wolves……
nothing to prove, no pressure to perform miracles at Spurs or similar again, close to Wales and speaks the language, ( Spanish/Portuguese….lol), albeit not very well.
And he could look great in our colours.
Hey…..just saying, is all

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No chance...

 

[Deleted member sbk12944]

Thought I had read somewhere that a new rule was coming in the Premier League where salaries could not go over 70% of total turnover .. but I might have been wrong ..

I have read it’s 90% but then gradual to 70% what I can find is vague and I am not sure if it’s just European competitions or includes all clubs.


*edit here’s a link to an article, not sure how accurate it is though

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Ned Stark]

i put this in the pub thread but may be worth repeating here. my mate told me that the promotional photoshoot wont include

saiss, neves, jimenez, moutinho and MGW. so, moutinho to roma is likely.

big gamble by wolves...

What is ‘the promotional photoshoot’?

 

[JamesWolves]

Bale is out of contract next month.

Wonder if at 32 he will retire or like to join a PL club as an impact sub for a season or two.

He, ( coughs), might like to come to Wolves……
nothing to prove, no pressure to perform miracles at Spurs or similar again, close to Wales and speaks the language, ( Spanish/Portuguese….lol), albeit not very well.
And he could look great in our colours.
Hey…..just saying, is all

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Any decent golf courses around here ?

 

[Scallywolf]

Bale is out of contract next month.

Wonder if at 32 he will retire or like to join a PL club as an impact sub for a season or two.

He, ( coughs), might like to come to Wolves……
nothing to prove, no pressure to perform miracles at Spurs or similar again, close to Wales and speaks the language, ( Spanish/Portuguese….lol), albeit not very well.
And he could look great in our colours.
Hey…..just saying, is all

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He’d spend more time on the treatment table or on the golf course than on a football pitch.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

People have been nagging on about needing changes for several windows ……well now they might get their wishes fulfilled.
I don’t see it as a bad thing. After two bad seasons, ( football qualitywise), some players leaving and new players arriving could be a positive catalyst.

Yes, it could be.

But when you're actively going against the manager it suggests to me it's more about reducing the wage bill than trying something new. Let's see if the new players we bring in are on big money.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

i put this in the pub thread but may be worth repeating here. my mate told me that the promotional photoshoot wont include

saiss, neves, jimenez, moutinho and MGW. so, moutinho to roma is likely.

big gamble by wolves...

Selling off MGW to Milan then?

 

[lobodelsur]

Precisely why I personally have always been in favour of the small squad philosophy!
Less numbers but more quality.

Which is why versatile players like Saiss, Jonny and (dare I say it) Donck are worth their weight in (old) gold...

 

[VancouverWolf]

Yes, it could be.

But when you're actively going against the manager it suggests to me it's more about reducing the wage bill than trying something new. Let's see if the new players we bring in are on big money.

“Going against the manager?”……..you sure? That would only lead to resentment and not very business like.
IMO, there’s other more plausible reasons for what’s going on regarding players, either outgoing or incoming.

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

“Going against the manager?”……..you sure? That would only lead to resentment and not very business like.
IMO, there’s other more plausible reasons for what’s going on regarding players, either outgoing or incoming.

Lage has made it quite clear he wanted Ruddy, Saiss & Moutinho as part of the squad next season.

 

[theweave]

Lage has made it quite clear he wanted Ruddy, Saiss & Moutinho as part of the squad next season.

Didn't Ruddy say in a recent interview he needed to be playing more? Maybe that's why he's gone, wanted assurances that they weren't willing to offer?

 

[MutchAdo]

Didn't Ruddy say in a recent interview he needed to be playing more? Maybe that's why he's gone, wanted assurances that they weren't willing to offer?

Pretty much this. It wouldn't really matter what Lage wanted concerning Ruddy if Ruddy himself didn't want what Lage or the club were offering. There's plenty sticks around to beat the club with at the moment but I don't think this is one of them.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

All that's happening is the club moving on players at the right time
Somehow that equals a conspiracy of cut backs and fosun need to sell the club Unbelievable

 

[Bognor_Wolf]

All that's happening is the club moving on players at the right time
Somehow that equals a conspiracy of cut backs and fosun need to sell the club Unbelievable

You sound shocked it's the same every transfer window....

Saying that though I can totally understand why people are a little concerned with a lot of experienced players leaving...

 

[WickedWolfie]

Bale is out of contract next month.

Wonder if at 32 he will retire or like to join a PL club as an impact sub for a season or two.

He, ( coughs), might like to come to Wolves……
nothing to prove, no pressure to perform miracles at Spurs or similar again, close to Wales and speaks the language, ( Spanish/Portuguese….lol), albeit not very well.
And he could look great in our colours.
Hey…..just saying, is all

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I really hope that this never, ever, happens. Back to the utter stupidity of the 1990s.

 

[Peszkywolf]

Personally I think we definitely need a change of players, even Neves and Moutinho. We've looked so slow and created what the 2nd most chances in the top flight?! Mostly just concerned that bringing in 4 new players and all 4 work out is very unlikely. You'd have thought Trincao a Barca winger would've worked.
Think we'd be mad to not bring MGW back into the side, not sure what formation would fit him though as he's not a striker, winger or holding midfielder.

 

[Evthewolf]

That’s the crux with retaining players because, they will obviously ask for a deal, that they are happy with. If the club feels the player doesn’t warrant that deal, unless a compromise can be reached the player has to go.

The club cannot be held to ransom by players for obvious reasons and unfortunately, football is predominantly a business nowadays. Long gone are the days of loyalty, sadly.

I personally think, that is partly the reason football has lost some of it’s magic. Players have always come and gone but to nowhere near, the degree, they do now.

Go back 50 years and I could (with a bit of time) probably name 8 or 9 of the starting 11 for at least half the teams in Div 1 at the time because the core of the team played the majority of their career there. Ask me to name 5 players that played for a random team in 2002 and I’d probably struggle. (I know squads are much bigger and rotate but that also gives more to choose from so balances up).

I think it’s quite fitting that the term “club” seems more frequently used nowadays, as opposed to “team” because it feels more like a lot of players just view playing football as a job (rightly or wrongly) so they sign for the club that offer them the best deal but that surely means that passion has to be diminished.

Years ago it felt quite different (perhaps just my perspective) but it seemed more about honour and pride, in playing for a certain team. I suppose that has come with the inevitable influx of players from abroad and the ridiculous money that is on offer, today.

This is also partly why I never get too attached to any player at Wolves nowadays. I worship them all but at the same time, realistically know that if we have a gem, he’ll soon be gone. Even Neves, I will feel sad when/if he goes but it won’t break my heart like Richards or Bully would have.

 

[Lupo Italiano]

That’s the crux with retaining players because, they will obviously ask for a deal, that they are happy with. If the club feels the player doesn’t warrant that deal, unless a compromise can be reached the player has to go.

The club cannot be held to ransom by players for obvious reasons and unfortunately, football is predominantly a business nowadays. Long gone are the days of loyalty, sadly.

I personally think, that is partly the reason football has lost some of it’s magic. Players have always come and gone but to nowhere near, the degree, they do now.

Go back 50 years and I could (with a bit of time) probably name 8 or 9 of the starting 11 for at least half the teams in Div 1 at the time because the core of the team played the majority of their career there. Ask me to name 5 players that played for a random team in 2002 and I’d probably struggle. (I know squads are much bigger and rotate but that also gives more to choose from so balances up).

I think it’s quite fitting that the term “club” seems more frequently used nowadays, as opposed to “team” because it feels more like a lot of players just view playing football as a job (rightly or wrongly) so they sign for the club that offer them the best deal but that surely means that passion has to be diminished.

Years ago it felt quite different (perhaps just my perspective) but it seemed more about honour and pride, in playing for a certain team. I suppose that has come with the inevitable influx of players from abroad and the ridiculous money that is on offer, today.

This is also partly why I never get too attached to any player at Wolves nowadays. I worship them all but at the same time, realistically know that if we have a gem, he’ll soon be gone. Even Neves, I will feel sad when/if he goes but it won’t break my heart like Richards or Bully would have.

There was a caller on WM last week who grew was old enough to have watched us in the 50s and said how many players joined in their teens and provided they were good enough would stay with us into their 30s. Cullis never sold good players.

Sign of the times I suppose, the days of local lads and one club men are over, most players and managers have very short shelf lives at one club, sad though

 

[VancouverWolf]

Lage has made it quite clear he wanted Ruddy, Saiss & Moutinho as part of the squad next season.

Well we know that but do they want to be here on what we’ve offered them?
Also……maybe Bruno agrees with Jeff and doesn’t think we should offer them more than a year extension.

In fact Bruno maybe doesn’t figure them as part of his plan for 2023/24.

 

[WKFWolf]

Well we know that but do they want to be here on what we’ve offered them?
Also……maybe Bruno agrees with Jeff and doesn’t think we should offer them more than a year extension.

In fact Bruno doesn’t figure them as part of his plan for 2023/24.

Spot on.

 

[Wolf316]

Well we know that but do they want to be here on what we’ve offered them?
Also……maybe Bruno agrees with Jeff and doesn’t think we should offer them more than a year extension.

In fact Bruno doesn’t figure them as part of his plan for 2023/24.

Easiest way to get rid of a couple of high earners is to offer them contracts the club know they won’t sign then it looks like the player wants to leave rather than the club doesn’t want them to stay.

 

[VancouverWolf]

I really hope that this never, ever, happens. Back to the utter stupidity of the 1990s.

It’s unlikely to happen anyway, even putting his wages aside but do I think he could be of use to some club as a sub. He’s fit now, ( for how long who knows?) and might pop in a few and some assists.
Think of the pr.

 

[lets all have a disco]

All the latest news and reports are all indicating that Neves definitely wants Barcelona move.....I thought he might..... couldn't see him wanting anything else ....

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

All the latest news and reports are all indicating that Neves definitely wants Barcelona move.....I thought he might..... couldn't see him wanting anything else ....

Cant blame him. Gotta be an Iberian kids dream

 

[hambaps]

All the latest news and reports are all indicating that Neves definitely wants Barcelona move.....I thought he might..... couldn't see him wanting anything else ....

Neves will need to lend Barca the money to pay Wolves.

 

[L78]

All the latest news and reports are all indicating that Neves definitely wants Barcelona move.....I thought he might..... couldn't see him wanting anything else ....

As neves said all of us have dreams and we need to live those dreams in a short space of time. At wolves maybe he sees nightmares on the horizon

 

[Wolf316]

Neves will need to lend Barca the money to pay Wolves.

Don’t worry Sellars will send him on a two year loan with no obligation to buy it’ll be a great deal for the club.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

So I see Nico may be part of a deal to take Neves to Barca. If so, in what role would he likely play for Wolves? Alongside Palhinha in a more attacking CM role?

The curious case of Nico Gonzalez at Barcelona

The meteoric rises of Pedri, Gavi, and Ansu Fati have spoiled us all. Now, we’ve practically come to expect every youngster to instantly dazzle and shine without hesitation. The truth is, these players are exceptions to the rule. Most starlets gradually improve season-by-season and require...

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[lets all have a disco]

So I see Nico may be part of a deal to take Neves to Barca. If so, in what role would he likely play for Wolves? Alongside Palhinha in a more attacking CM role?

The curious case of Nico Gonzalez at Barcelona

The meteoric rises of Pedri, Gavi, and Ansu Fati have spoiled us all. Now, we’ve practically come to expect every youngster to instantly dazzle and shine without hesitation. The truth is, these players are exceptions to the rule. Most starlets gradually improve season-by-season and require...

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Both would be ideal in front of a back 4.... defencive mids....double pivot is the in vogue term....