Alex Rae The Substitute
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I think they were the cheapest colour option at the time.
My post was tongue in cheek
I think they were the cheapest colour option at the time.
Pretty much sure that they were one of the only three or four options available at the time. Also we were in financial troubles due to the escalating cost of the stand and rising interest ratesI think they were the cheapest colour option at the time.
There were standard height, weight estimates used in building based in 1950s research.... Try a vintage bus etc...People were clearly very slim and no taller than 5'10 in the late 70's.
In the 80s I recall Brits in Epcot Florida taking pictures of XXXL visitors to show folk back home. It seemed unbelievable that there could be so many obese folk waddling about. Food portions there were huge but generally not tasty or appetizing.There were standard height, weight estimates used in building based in 1950s research.... Try a vintage bus etc...
I remember going to the US in the late 80s and being unable not to laugh about the number of stupidly obese people. I couldn't imagine that in UK. Guess what....
I remember buying a large coke at some place in America in the 90s and it was basically a bucket full of pop with a lid and a straw. I think that mega sizes are banned now but I believe that free refills are still a thing over there.In the 80s I recall Brits in Epcot Florida taking pictures of XXXL visitors to show folk back home. It seemed unbelievable that there could be so many obese folk waddling about. Food portions there were huge but generally not tasty or appetizing.
We ate proper food, not curries chips and Mc donaldsPeople were clearly very slim and no taller than 5'10 in the late 70's.
way to much junk food eaten by you fat ****ersPeople were clearly very slim and no taller than 5'10 in the late 70's.
Guedes or Steve bull standTime to take note of Brighton - developing the stadium and the team in tandem.
Our ground, especially the Steve Bull, is way behind the curve. We've got the balance between the players and the stadium all wrong.
Trouble is that most of our fans prefer the instant fix of a new signing to something that will benefit the club and its supporters for a generation.
Fosun need to show leadership and vision.
They could put a tier on the south bank 6000 and add to the north bank then do the bully easy fit people in the stands rebuild the Steve bull put changing rooms and player’s entrance in there then do the Billy Wright stand easyI love my little stand, always walk straight in bout 20mins b4 ko , OK cud do with more than 6 loos but I've never wet myself queuing , never buy food or drink in the ground so that don't effect me, but yes I do have long legs so cud do with a little more room , just can't see how they are ever going to rebuild it with relocating us all
I was certainly slim and under 5'10 in the late 70's. A tad broader now, but sadly still well under 5'10. I blame processed food and adulterated ale.People were clearly very slim and no taller than 5'10 in the late 70's.
Something like this. Like we've discussed elsewhere, extend the South Bank, then add a South Bank / Bully corner, extend the quad. Then you can relocate us Bully ST holders and work on the Bully in a couple of parts. Other clubs do it so we can do it.They could put a tier on the south bank 6000 and add to the north bank then do the bully easy fit people in the stands rebuild the Steve bull put changing rooms and player’s entrance in there then do the Billy Wright stand easy
We'd have done the same.Scousers where banging on the executive box windows after the match in the steve bull stand
Time to take note of Brighton - developing the stadium and the team in tandem.
Our ground, especially the Steve Bull, is way behind the curve. We've got the balance between the players and the stadium all wrong.
Trouble is that most of our fans prefer the instant fix of a new signing to something that will benefit the club and its supporters for a generation.
Fosun need to show leadership and vision.
Yes. We could temporarily move to Aldersly stadium for ten seasons whilst developing a new ground in Penkridge.Time to take note of Brighton - developing the stadium and the team in tandem.
Our ground, especially the Steve Bull, is way behind the curve. We've got the balance between the players and the stadium all wrong.
Trouble is that most of our fans prefer the instant fix of a new signing to something that will benefit the club and its supporters for a generation.
Fosun need to show leadership and vision.
Interesting question. I think without the construction of the New Stand in the late 70s it is hard to imagine Wolves still playing at Molineux in 1990. The Bradford fire would have condemned three sides of the stadium and, post Hillsborough, the South Bank would be doomed too.A completely theoretical/historical question. If events hadn't taken the course they had, and we had ended up with the whole ground constructed like the John Ireland/Steve Bull - would we be in a better or worse situation now (stadium wise)?
If you're talking about ambition there were concrete plans drawn up in the late 50's to redevelop the ground in the 60's to a 70,000 capacity stadium, but these were rejected by Wolverhampton Council. One can only wonder what might have been if they had been allowed to go ahead with the plans. Maybe the whole 80's fiasco would never have occurred.Interesting question. I think without the construction of the New Stand in the late 70s it is hard to imagine Wolves still playing at Molineux in 1990. The Bradford fire would have condemned three sides of the stadium and, post Hillsborough, the South Bank would be doomed too.
The amazing thing about the late 70s redevelopment was its sheer ambition though. If the stadium had been completed as planned it would have been the best in the country (remember what grounds in the 80s were like). Sadly it looks like there were no real plans for how to pay for it but assuming there were it would have held FA Cup semis etc. Who knows? Most likely the debt would have killed the club as it would be beyond saving.
Chances are by now we’d be moaning about cramped seats, narrow concourses and the whole 80s vibe of the place. And maybe scratching our heads wondering what to do with all that concrete.
Very true but that late 50s style design was very much a rebuild on the same footprint and would have had cramped side stands and an enormous south bank. Certainly would have lasted better than the 1935 Molineux though but ultimately the club would have to expand or move. The construction of the New Stand, as over ambitious as it was, at least ensured that the footprint of the stadium was increased and probably ensured Wolves wouldn’t eventually be forced to move (although just survival became more of a priority).If you're talking about ambition there were concrete plans drawn up in the late 50's to redevelop the ground in the 60's to a 70,000 capacity stadium, but these were rejected by Wolverhampton Council. One can only wonder what might have been if they had been allowed to go ahead with the plans. Maybe the whole 80's fiasco would never have occurred.
If you're talking about ambition there were concrete plans drawn up in the late 50's to redevelop the ground in the 60's to a 70,000 capacity stadium, but these were rejected by Wolverhampton Council. One can only wonder what might have been if they had been allowed to go ahead with the plans. Maybe the whole 80's fiasco would never have occurred.
I heard when the council rejected the plans that was us finished and teams like Man U went miles ahead of usIf you're talking about ambition there were concrete plans drawn up in the late 50's to redevelop the ground in the 60's to a 70,000 capacity stadium, but these were rejected by Wolverhampton Council. One can only wonder what might have been if they had been allowed to go ahead with the plans. Maybe the whole 80's fiasco would never have occurred.
It should be the opposite, show youve invested in the facilities and get points in your favour for ffp. Keeps the stadiums modern and improves image of PL...Isn’t stadium redevelopment about to be included in FFP. It’s currently nothing to do with it and doesn’t count towards it but as soon as it does we can kiss goodbye to any major improvements until we are a genuine, 100% guaranteed self reliant top 10 outfit.
It's where the best people are ..Any update on the Steve Bull
Most definitelyIt's where the best people are ..
I always look at the people waiting by either of the TWO (is that for the whole of the upper??) sit down bogs and wonder 'coke head, IBS or Ruby Murray the night before'If I go for a **** now I might make the first game of next season.
For all the criticism of the ground, ISTR that when SJH rebuilt the stadium, it was given an award for the “best disabled facilities” or something similar.Interesting question. I think without the construction of the New Stand in the late 70s it is hard to imagine Wolves still playing at Molineux in 1990. The Bradford fire would have condemned three sides of the stadium and, post Hillsborough, the South Bank would be doomed too.
The amazing thing about the late 70s redevelopment was its sheer ambition though. If the stadium had been completed as planned it would have been the best in the country (remember what grounds in the 80s were like). Sadly it looks like there were no real plans for how to pay for it but assuming there were it would have held FA Cup semis etc. Who knows? Most likely the debt would have killed the club as it would be beyond saving.
Chances are by now we’d be moaning about cramped seats, narrow concourses and the whole 80s vibe of the place. And maybe scratching our heads wondering what to do with all that concrete.
That’s a mad fact.Very true but that late 50s style design was very much a rebuild on the same footprint and would have had cramped side stands and an enormous south bank. Certainly would have lasted better than the 1935 Molineux though but ultimately the club would have to expand or move. The construction of the New Stand, as over ambitious as it was, at least ensured that the footprint of the stadium was increased and probably ensured Wolves wouldn’t eventually be forced to move (although just survival became more of a priority).
Fun fact - the Steve Bull stand will soon be older than the age of the iconic stand it replaced (old Molineux Street was built in 1932, demolished 1979 so 47 years-ish). The New Stand is now in its 44th year…
Interesting question. I think without the construction of the New Stand in the late 70s it is hard to imagine Wolves still playing at Molineux in 1990. The Bradford fire would have condemned three sides of the stadium and, post Hillsborough, the South Bank would be doomed too.
The amazing thing about the late 70s redevelopment was its sheer ambition though. If the stadium had been completed as planned it would have been the best in the country (remember what grounds in the 80s were like). Sadly it looks like there were no real plans for how to pay for it but assuming there were it would have held FA Cup semis etc. Who knows? Most likely the debt would have killed the club as it would be beyond saving.
Chances are by now we’d be moaning about cramped seats, narrow concourses and the whole 80s vibe of the place. And maybe scratching our heads wondering what to do with all that concrete.
And now it would maybe cost 200m to rebuild Steve Bull and South Bank.It doesn't seem a lot of money now, no, but let's not forget about eleven years ago the ground was singing "**** the team, and build a stand."
I really do think that if we went ahead with Morgan’s plans we would still be looking to expand now from 40000. Morgan messed up by not making the north bank a 12000 capacity standI was looking back at Steve Morgan’s original plans earlier.
When announced in 2010, the redevelopment/rebuild of the horseshoe (3 sides of Molineux) was projected to cost £40m.
Really doesn’t sound like a lot of money these days does it?
We all know why it didn’t happen, but looking back how different things would be now if he’d seen that project through.
Edit: although It would have meant a 2 tier South Bank - which would have been a mistake.
The club explained what they intend to do last summer and it wasn’t any of the above.They could put a tier on the south bank 6000 and add to the north bank then do the bully easy fit people in the stands rebuild the Steve bull put changing rooms and player’s entrance in there then do the Billy Wright stand easy
Where we’re you Saturday??!We are the J9 we’ll sing on our own
If I remember, the club set out a few options, none of which have been implemented. I doubt they intended to do any of them.The club explained what they intend to do last summer and it wasn’t any of the above.