Stale and wingers

[Sedgers]

Any of our Scandinavian friends know if Stale played with out an out wingers in the mould of Kightly and Jarvis?

 

[Taffywolf]

He had Jesper Gronjear on 1 winf at Copenhagen. I spoke to a few Norwegian press outside Molinuex today and they all had only very good things to say about him. The story is very big in Norway and will no doubt drum up some interest in the Wolves from over there. When I asked them what they thought of his appointment they said you are very lucky to have him. He worked with a No2 at copenhagen and took him to FC Koln with him so maybe he could be 1 thats going to join him. He likes to play football but he will assess our squad 1st I suppose to see if they got the ability to play that way.. He's a big names over there so shouldnt have any problem attracting the players..

 

[Pengwern]

Well done Taffywolf for that initiative! When the press from anywhere say anything like that about anyone, he must be very special.

 

[Dorset DeWolf]

He had Jesper Gronjear on 1 winf at Copenhagen. I spoke to a few Norwegian press outside Molinuex today and they all had only very good things to say about him. The story is very big in Norway and will no doubt drum up some interest in the Wolves from over there. When I asked them what they thought of his appointment they said you are very lucky to have him. He worked with a No2 at copenhagen and took him to FC Koln with him so maybe he could be 1 thats going to join him. He likes to play football but he will assess our squad 1st I suppose to see if they got the ability to play that way.. He's a big names over there so shouldnt have any problem attracting the players..

That'll be a no then

 

[Dewsburywolf]

I thought somebody said last week that Stale tends to play a narrow midfield with the full backs providing the width. A new lease of life for Wardy??

 

[Wolv3nsam]

If he likes his fullbacks to provide the width then he will be head over heels with Zubar!

 

[FLEET WOLF]

I thought somebody said last week that Stale tends to play a narrow midfield with the full backs providing the width. A new lease of life for Wardy??

I think that Kightly is more of a wide midfield player than an out and out winger, like Jarvis. Kightly therefore should be ok under SS.

 

[Dewsburywolf]

If he likes his fullbacks to provide the width then he will be head over heels with Zubar!

Surely it's George that's wide :embarassed:

 

[Mighty Thor]

He had Jesper Gronjear on 1 winf at Copenhagen. I spoke to a few Norwegian press outside Molinuex today and they all had only very good things to say about him. The story is very big in Norway and will no doubt drum up some interest in the Wolves from over there. When I asked them what they thought of his appointment they said you are very lucky to have him. He worked with a No2 at copenhagen and took him to FC Koln with him so maybe he could be 1 thats going to join him. He likes to play football but he will assess our squad 1st I suppose to see if they got the ability to play that way.. He's a big names over there so shouldnt have any problem attracting the players..

Errr...no its not. I just did a test and asked 3 colleagues, one of who is a chelsea season ticket holder and flies in for games...he had not heard, and none of the others had. And to be honest, they dont care. TPrem football has been here years and years and the majority follow the larger clubs.

 

[Pengwern]

Zubar lacks ball control and his passes yesterday were sloppy. His interview about Stale was as mumbled and irresponsible as Cap'n Alky's. Show him the door! Doherty is already a better player going forward, with better positional sense and ball control. I've seen Zubar, time after time, jogging out towards the unmarked winger who has just received the ball because his brain forgot that his job was to keep a sharp eye on him. He does this virtually every match. Just think of the goals that have come from the opposition's left wing this season. When Stale sees these DVDs of Zubes, he won't have to shave his bonce any more to stop the hair from growing - thr roots will have fallen out!

 

[JOSWolf]

Zubar lacks ball control and his passes yesterday were sloppy. His interview about Stale was as mumbled and irresponsible as Cap'n Alky's. Show him the door! Doherty is already a better player going forward, with better positional sense and ball control. I've seen Zubar, time after time, jogging out towards the unmarked winger who has just received the ball because his brain forgot that his job was to keep a sharp eye on him. He does this virtually every match. Just think of the goals that have come from the opposition's left wing this season. When Stale sees these DVDs of Zubes, he won't have to shave his bonce any more to stop the hair from growing - thr roots will have fallen out!

I've seen plenty of goals from Ward's side due to his poor defending this season. Maybe we should let him go aswell?

 

[Golden_Wolf]

I've seen plenty of goals from Ward's side due to his poor defending this season. Maybe we should let him go aswell?

IMO we should.

 

[Taffywolf]

Errr...no its not. I just did a test and asked 3 colleagues, one of who is a chelsea season ticket holder and flies in for games...he had not heard, and none of the others had. And to be honest, they dont care. TPrem football has been here years and years and the majority follow the larger clubs.

The 2 guys from TV2(I think) must of been lying then. They said he is recarded as the best coach in Norway and there is alot of interest in the fact he's had the Wolves job.

 

[Hatch End]

All our full-backs are poor...............come to think it, so are our centre-backs!

 

[Metal Wolf89]

We need intelligent players to be able to utilise Solbakkens tactics.

 

[OsloWolf]

The 2 guys from TV2(I think) must of been lying then. They said he is recarded as the best coach in Norway and there is alot of interest in the fact he's had the Wolves job.

They obviously didn't lie. I don't understand what Mighty Thor is talking about, the newspapers over here are going mental over this.

And if I'm wrong, what is all this about?

http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/05/14/...eague/wolverhampton/stale_solbakken/21580001/
http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/05/11/sport/wolverhampton/solbakken/fotball/premier_league/21546590/
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http://fotball.h-a.no/england/article236555.ece
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http://fotball.adressa.no/england/article236555.ece

I could easilly post 100 more links, but I have to go watch Britain's Next Top Model now.

 

[shaygriff]

Errr...no its not. I just did a test and asked 3 colleagues, one of who is a chelsea season ticket holder and flies in for games...he had not heard, and none of the others had. And to be honest, they dont care. TPrem football has been here years and years and the majority follow the larger clubs.

I expierienced the opposite. I came to work after the news of Ståle and two Man U, one Liverpool, a Spurs and Chelsea fan congratulated us on getting Ståle.
The Norwegian papers are full of the story. I've never seen Wolves mentioned so much in the media over here and I've been here 42 years!!

 

[scanwolf]

Have lived in Denmark since 1972,seen FC Copenhagen numerous times with SÃ¥le in charge. He changes the style of play according to the players,but he has principles that remain the same ,i.e., the team play as a unit,all over the pitch,each player is aware of where they are in relation to the team,press the opposition ,keep the ball, pass,move ,explode.
It is very simialr to the way the Denmark play .
So the problem as I see it ,how many of our current players can play in this way, Fletcher , Jarvis, ?
A compromise will be neccessary, a new playing pattern found.
I am convinced he can do it.
Fascinating times ahead.

 

[SourCream&OnionUtd]

He had Jesper Gronjear on 1 winf at Copenhagen. I spoke to a few Norwegian press outside Molinuex today and they all had only very good things to say about him. The story is very big in Norway and will no doubt drum up some interest in the Wolves from over there. When I asked them what they thought of his appointment they said you are very lucky to have him. He worked with a No2 at copenhagen and took him to FC Koln with him so maybe he could be 1 thats going to join him. He likes to play football but he will assess our squad 1st I suppose to see if they got the ability to play that way.. He's a big names over there so shouldnt have any problem attracting the players..

I remember from watching a few of their matches from their Champions League campaign that Solbakken had moved Gronkjaer into a central position behind big Ndoye, but JG was free to float into either of the wide areas at his will. Martin Vingaard and a Costa Rican were manning the flanks.

 

[kennyB]

Zubar lacks ball control and his passes yesterday were sloppy. His interview about Stale was as mumbled and irresponsible as Cap'n Alky's. Show him the door! Doherty is already a better player going forward, with better positional sense and ball control. I've seen Zubar, time after time, jogging out towards the unmarked winger who has just received the ball because his brain forgot that his job was to keep a sharp eye on him. He does this virtually every match. Just think of the goals that have come from the opposition's left wing this season. When Stale sees these DVDs of Zubes, he won't have to shave his bonce any more to stop the hair from growing - thr roots will have fallen out!

That is so true. After watching him closely yesterday I'm amazed he gets anywhere near the first eleven. A huge embarrassment/liability.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

Have lived in Denmark since 1972,seen FC Copenhagen numerous times with SÃ¥le in charge. He changes the style of play according to the players,but he has principles that remain the same ,i.e., the team play as a unit,all over the pitch,each player is aware of where they are in relation to the team,press the opposition ,keep the ball, pass,move ,explode.
It is very simialr to the way the Denmark play .
So the problem as I see it ,how many of our current players can play in this way, Fletcher , Jarvis, ?
A compromise will be neccessary, a new playing pattern found.
I am convinced he can do it.
Fascinating times ahead.

I think Kightly and Henry would fit into the style of football your describing, both will close down men on the ball and work hard without it, and both never shy away from wanting the ball when we're in possession.

The rest of the team in not so sure!

 

[Metro Wolf 2007]

He'll have plenty of time to get to know who they are.

!! Sorry !! I thought it said "whingers" !! :ahhhhh:

 

[Pengwern]

Forde does this too - closing down and being aware of who is around him and bringing them into play. Did this on Sunday.

 

[Metro Wolf 2007]

That is so true. After watching him closely yesterday I'm amazed he gets anywhere near the first eleven. A huge embarrassment/liability.

Ward bombs forward too. With two defenders back or knackered from the running half the time is it any wonder that the centre backs are frazzled and we leak goals? Tactical ineptitude.:vollkommenauf:

 

[Skrilla]

I think Kightly and Henry would fit into the style of football your describing, both will close down men on the ball and work hard without it, and both never shy away from wanting the ball when we're in possession.

The rest of the team in not so sure!

Karl Henry cannot pass a ball and is awful with the ball, I cringe whenever he gets the ball because I'm afraid he'll give it away... I'm sorry but if he wants to create a side of tippy tappy passers like Swansea or Barcelona for example, we need someone who can pass the ball properly rather than the thug that is Karl Henry. In my opinion, Guedioura would be a much better fit and I can't see Stale not playing him. Can't wait to see how we line up next year, hopefully its nothing like the teams we've set out for the majority of this year...

 

[braywwfc]

Karl Henry cannot pass a ball and is awful with the ball, I cringe whenever he gets the ball because I'm afraid he'll give it away... I'm sorry but if he wants to create a side of tippy tappy passers like Swansea or Barcelona for example, we need someone who can pass the ball properly rather than the thug that is Karl Henry. In my opinion, Guedioura would be a much better fit and I can't see Stale not playing him. Can't wait to see how we line up next year, hopefully its nothing like the teams we've set out for the majority of this year...

I think that's a very harsh assessment of KH. Apart from Davis who is an exciting prospect, he seems to me as the only player who is able to actually keep the ball, and isn't desperate to move it on immediately after receiving it. I know we've leaked goals all season regardless of whether he's in the side or not, but he certainly makes us look more steady and we tend to enjoy more possession.

I think Karl will be our key man next season

 

[Deleted member 3751]

I remember from watching a few of their matches from their Champions League campaign that Solbakken had moved Gronkjaer into a central position behind big Ndoye, but JG was free to float into either of the wide areas at his will. Martin Vingaard and a Costa Rican were manning the flanks.

That role is made for Kightly, and dare i say it, Hammill - if he can sort out his decision making.

 

[thaibri2]

I think Kightly and Henry would fit into the style of football your describing, both will close down men on the ball and work hard without it, and both never shy away from wanting the ball when we're in possession.

The rest of the team in not so sure!

If Stale wants the ball passed backwards or sideways then Karl Henry has a future at the club, if not I think he should be moved on. He is great at hospital passes.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

If Stale wants the ball passed backwards or sideways then Karl Henry has a future at the club, if not I think he should be moved on. He is great at hospital passes.

So you don't think the lack of movement in our team has any part to play in this?

Have you ever watched Barca, the Spanish national team or even Swansea?

Count how many times they pass backwards or sideways before going forwards and they're forwards offer alot more movement than ours!

This is exactly why football like Swansea play wouldn't work here, majority of our fans don't understand it. There's one Swansea goal I think it was against Fulham not too sure where they had something like 30 passes involved, they passed back to the CBs and maybe even the GK about 3 times before they finally scored.

If Henry was the DM in Swansea's midfield 3 everyone would be raving about him. I'd suggest to anyone who thinks Henry can't pass ect. Just focus solely on Henry for 5-10 mins, you'll soon change your tune. Everyone else I've told to do this has.

 

[OsloWolf]

IMO the biggest problem with Karl Henry is not his passing abilities, but the fact that he always seams to spend ages keeping the ball. Slowing us down IMO.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

IMO the biggest problem with Karl Henry is not his passing abilities, but the fact that he always seams to spend ages keeping the ball. Slowing us down IMO.

That's partly because of the lack of movement and Yes his vision isn't as great as milijas's but if it was he'd be playing for a top 4 club and go by the name of Claude Makelele! Obviously he has a few weaknesses otherwise he'd playing for a club alot better than us.

 

[OsloWolf]

Well, I don't agree. He seams to spend ages on the ball even when there ARE options. Whats up with the need to always shield the ball away from the opponent?

 

[Pengwern]

Sedgley is right about Karl Henry + he is miles better nowadays at shielding the ball when he has it and he is nearly always first to the clearance from the opposition when we are on the attack. Quite simply, he makes us tick, so that someone more adventurous in their game can play alongside him. I hope Stale sees something in Gued, if he's been given any DVDs of our loanees, which something inside says they probably forgot to give him.

 

[Hatch End]

Play the Copenhagen way?

With the present crop of players, no chance.

They can't do it. They were brought to to the club to play the Mad Mick way and coached by Clippo to his exacting standards ( shift putting! ).

Despite Clippo's claims, during his ( thankfully ) brief spell as manager, they never showed any signs of undiscovered skills and abilities.

I really hope that Stale is the man, who can not only bring success again, but also give us some enjoyable football to watch.

Hopefully he will be given time by the fans and they'll realise that he's inheriting a number of players who are of poor quality. They are almost certainly the ones who have been loudest in their support of their "mate" Clippo.........who also comes across in the media as being very resentful at not being given the managers job.

Could be a tricky first few manths for Stale, which is why I'm not expecting an instant return to the Greed League.

 

[kennyB]

Well, I don't agree. He seams to spend ages on the ball even when there ARE options. Whats up with the need to always shield the ball away from the opponent?

Agree with that assessment.

 

[The_Ned]

Well, I don't agree. He seams to spend ages on the ball even when there ARE options. Whats up with the need to always shield the ball away from the opponent?

I always think he looks scared with the ball. Davis already looks a lot calmer and better on the ball than him.

 

[Ralphdog]

Kightly will end up as a central player. IMO

 

[OsloWolf]

 

[Woburn Wolf]

All our full-backs are poor...............come to think it, so are our centre-backs!

Foley? He has not had a good season, half of which was consumed by injury but he has always looked an intelligent player, who reads the game well and does not give the ball away easily. Just the type we will need if we are going to play a more technical possesion based game.

 

[Pengwern]

Foley? He has not had a good season, half of which was consumed by injury but he has always looked an intelligent player, who reads the game well and does not give the ball away easily. Just the type we will need if we are going to play a more technical possesion based game.

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