Stadium Plans

[Chisels_n_ommers]

Indeed they are. Similar in concept to what Spurs did, but aiming to receive financial help from the government, which I guess their neighbours City did when moving to their stadium. Now, has anyone thought of doing the same at Molineux with the Asda site next door

But, just to revisit that old idea for a moment, might there be a deal to be done with the Uni and government that sees Wolves build a new stadium on the site of the existing University Halls / Asda site, with the University building a new student village on the existing Molineux site, closer to their academic buildings and the city centre? It could be phased such that replacement halls for those being lost are built on the area in and around the North Bank, then the new stadium is built where the existing halls / Asda is, and finally old Molineux is demolished and the rest of the student village built. Sounds like an expensive and complicated plan, but might be attractive to investors.

Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s bold plan for Old Trafford to become ‘Wembley of the North’

Exclusive: British billionaire may ask the Government for financial assistance to help build ‘state-of-the-art’ ground for Manchester United

www.telegraph.co.uk

Meanwhile Everton will have a beautiful stadium to grace the Chump.

I hope those Albion hooligans don't wreck it

 

[Pagey]

then the new stadium is built where the existing halls / Asda is, and finally old Molineux is demolished and the rest of the student village built.

Don't think the covenant in place with the leasehold will allow that to happen.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Don't think the covenant in place with the leasehold will allow that to happen.

As it stands, yes I agree, but since the council are a partner in any plans for Molineux Quarter, that can easily be addressed.

In the meantime, this is interesting…

Wolves’ Chinese Owner Fosun Sports Seeks to Raise $100 Million - BNN Bloomberg

Fosun Sports Group is looking to raise around $100 million to help it grow its esports portfolio and invest in Premier League football team Wolverhampton Wanderers.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

 

[Southdownswolf]

Don't think the covenant in place with the leasehold will allow that to happen.

Are the grounds that Asda are on part of the Molineux family grounds or does the stadium cover it all? I realise that it wouldn't be on the covenant.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Are the grounds that Asda are on part of the Molineux family grounds or does the stadium cover it all? I realise that it wouldn't be on the covenant.

The Asda land was sold separately to help pay off our debts at the time the council took ownership of the freehold where the stadium is. A deal to sell part of the land for retail development had been part of the Bhatti Brothers plan when they took over before then, but objections from retailers in the city centre caused the council to block it, and scuppered their plan to pay off our debts and rebuild the rest of the stadium.

 

[Sheffield Wolf]

The Asda land was sold separately to help pay off our debts at the time the council took ownership of the freehold where the stadium is. A deal to sell part of the land for retail development had been part of the Bhatti Brothers plan when they took over before then, but objections from retailers in the city centre caused the council to block it, and scuppered their plan to pay off our debts and rebuild the rest of the stadium.

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Bhatti Brothers?

 

[Mardenboroughs Shoulder]

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Bhatti Brothers?

About the same as Whatever happened to the likely lads!

 

[Southdownswolf]

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Bhatti Brothers?

Supposedly disappeared to Saudi Arabia

 

[Mardenboroughs Shoulder]

Supposedly disappeared to Saudi Arabia

Blooming trendsetters, off to Saudi decades ahead of Premier League footballers?

 

[Kashmire Hawker]

1-0 Nigeria v South Africa. Foolish penalty to give away and it is converted by the Super Eagles Captain.

 

[chignalwolf]

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Bhatti Brothers?

Last seen returning back into that pond they came from,,

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

So if the Bhattis had just been given planning permission to let Asda build would we have been fine and had a statue of The Doog onthe Waterloo Rd now?

 

[Sussex Wolf]

So if the Bhattis had just been given planning permission to let Asda build would we have been fine and had a statue of The Doog onthe Waterloo Rd now?

That’s a good question…

They had a plan, which on paper could have worked, but which looked hopelessly optimistic in hindsight. Had they sold the land for retail, and paid off the debt on the John Ireland stand, then the club could have continued to buy and sell players and likely we wouldn’t have slid down the leagues like we did. But to quickly redevelop the other stands, like they planned, I doubt they’d have had the funds because ultimately they didn’t have rich backers. They depended on the retail land sale and government grants. Perhaps more likely they could have fairly quickly sold the club onto another owner, for a profit, having cleared the debts. So maybe we could have had someone like SJH come in then, without the ignominy of dropping down the leagues.

 

[Kashmire Hawker]

1-0 Nigeria v South Africa. Foolish penalty to give away and it is converted by the Super Eagles Captain.

Meant to be for the AFCON thread! Wednesday night brain…

 

[Queensland Wolf]

Everything you say is correct.

There is now however significant funding committed to a range of redevelopment projects across the city centre. Whether they are all successful or cohesive is to be seen, but it should at least help business sentiment. As for Molineux, there is a master plan published for the Molineux Quarter by a partnership of Council, University and Wolves. It’s still waiting to be funded, but as the biggest part of it, the University recently restated its commitment to it.

Further up this thread are images of the master plan and links to recent press reports on it and the city funding.

Thanks Sussex - I’ll follow up

 

[Oldgoldilox]

Meanwhile Everton will have a beautiful stadium to grace the Chump.

I hope those Albion hooligans don't wreck it

Not allowed to call it "hospitality" because it conjures up images of elitism, wonder what they are charging for these "bar memberships" then??

 

[clivewolves]

Not allowed to call it "hospitality" because it conjures up images of elitism, wonder what they are charging for these "bar memberships" then??

I like it when you pay for a bar membership and they say you get free drinks as part of it.

 

[Monketron]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1756955818191159706

Saw this and thought it was pertinent. Not only shows just how far behind Wolves are compared to most of the established Premier League clubs but also how limiting the economic ****show of the West Midlands on top of the lack of facilities really are to the club.

 

[Werewolf of Wombourne]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1756955818191159706

Saw this and thought it was pertinent. Not only shows just how far behind Wolves are compared to most of the established Premier League clubs but also how limiting the economic ****show of the West Midlands on top of the lack of facilities really are to the club.

It's very pertinent considering how many posters on here complain about the club raising season ticket prices etc

 

[greco wolf]

Main reason is that the town centre has a lot of bars that people go to and spend before a game. Only the North bank bar in ground really.

Spurs have built bars with fast service , food and also good choice of beers. Massive difference. Plus all the corporate as well

Let’s hope ground development (if we ever ) addresses this.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Main reason is that the town centre has a lot of bars that people go to and spend before a game. Only the North bank bar in ground really.

Spurs have built bars with fast service , food and also good choice of beers. Massive difference. Plus all the corporate as well

Let’s hope ground development (if we ever ) addresses this.

Yes I'm like a kid in a sweet shop at Spurs......don't spend a penny at any other ground I visit mostly...I've done a bit of overtime this month to give to Spurs on Saturday.....

 

[Sussex Wolf]

An interesting and relevant observation when talking about stadium capacity or season ticket prices.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02fsWdXVxNRZjzSqidMAELsqAQSDoTcP2YmhTJngRVvRRa76EGbE2uU8x6EkUez1t3l&id=100063604779611

 

[kidder_wolf_II]

An interesting and relevant observation when talking about stadium capacity or season ticket prices.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02fsWdXVxNRZjzSqidMAELsqAQSDoTcP2YmhTJngRVvRRa76EGbE2uU8x6EkUez1t3l&id=100063604779611

Surely if they were getting an extra £200 per person in a stadium that holds 75000 that a lot more that £2m lol

 

[Darvo]

An interesting and relevant observation when talking about stadium capacity or season ticket prices.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02fsWdXVxNRZjzSqidMAELsqAQSDoTcP2YmhTJngRVvRRa76EGbE2uU8x6EkUez1t3l&id=100063604779611

Oh for some of this in England

 

[jackdusty]

An interesting and relevant observation when talking about stadium capacity or season ticket prices.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02fsWdXVxNRZjzSqidMAELsqAQSDoTcP2YmhTJngRVvRRa76EGbE2uU8x6EkUez1t3l&id=100063604779611

Isn't that an old article ? Anyway here are this seasons match tickets. Don't take any notice of the cheap standing tickets as there are non as its all season tickets in there.

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tickets.fcbayern.com

 

[oldgoldheart]

This is the second stadium thread. Endless comment about nothing. Fosun are going to invest zero in the stadium. Shi moaned about interest rates being too high when they were 0.1%. They are now 5% so cost to us likely double figures. Not a chance of investment

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

This is the second stadium thread. Endless comment about nothing. Fosun are going to invest zero in the stadium. Shi moaned about interest rates being too high when they were 0.1%. They are now 5% so cost to us likely double figures. Not a chance of investment

Should be able to save 50m if our wage bill is only £40m so where’s the money fosun

Prem money is about 140/160m something doesn’t add up

 

[Hot Fuss]

It's very pertinent considering how many posters on here complain about the club raising season ticket prices etc

It’s not really. Putting aside the fact that our prices have gone up considerably since 21/22 when those figures were put together, I’m guessing that all it shows is we are way behind many clubs in regards to hospitality and facilities.

They miss out on £5 off me every home game simply because it’s impossible to get served in the south bank and the beer is **** anyway, so my lot have all stopped bothering with a half time beer.

Another issue is the fan base. Mainly midlands folk who aren’t interested in going for a meal at the ground or paying through the nose for a padded seat. Most turn up at 2.50-3.00 and **** off after the game. Much like Leicester and Villa in the table.

We aren’t a tourist club, and as much as that effects our finances we never will be.

Banging yet another 50 quid on season tickets this summer means **** all in terms of closing the gap to the big clubs in that table.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Yes, basically you can't moan about not making enough per fan when you've completely failed to invest in any facilities.

Equally we can't moan about the failure to invest in facilities when nobody would pay for them anyway.

Comparing orselves to Spurs is silly, modelling ourselves on them is just plain madness.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Isn't that an old article ? Anyway here are this seasons match tickets. Don't take any notice of the cheap standing tickets as there are non as its all season tickets in there.

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tickets.fcbayern.com

The comment is old, but the price difference compared to the PL relatively accurate. A Bayern standing season ticket is €165 (£141) for this season. Their cheapest seated season ticket is €385 (£329). The table below makes for interesting reading.

Bundesliga price check 2023-24: The cost of German football – DW – 08/18/2023

German football is known for its relative affordability, with inexpensive standing tickets and public transport included. But how cheap is it really? Ahead of the 2023-24 season, DW takes a closer look.

www.dw.com

 

[Oliwolf44]

It's very pertinent considering how many posters on here complain about the club raising season ticket prices etc

Spurs who are top haven't won the league and Leeds in 7th are now in the championship. Leicester and Southampton above us the same. Villa below us etc. very weak correlation due to the fact ticket prices are not the biggest factor in club position and development.

 

[Monketron]

Revealed: Forest's 'master plan' for new-look City Ground and training base

A redeveloped 40,000-seater home and a state-of-the-art training base are part of Evangelos Marinakis' grand plans for Forest

theathletic.com

Forest looking to expand capacity to 40k an increase of around about 10k.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Revealed: Forest's 'master plan' for new-look City Ground and training base

A redeveloped 40,000-seater home and a state-of-the-art training base are part of Evangelos Marinakis' grand plans for Forest

theathletic.com

Forest looking to expand capacity to 40k an increase of around about 10k.

Interesting. I wonder if Fosun have considered something similar to Forest’s plans for executive boxes in the open corners?

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

Interesting. I wonder if Fosun have considered something similar to Forest’s plans for executive boxes in the open corners?

Great idea. They can all get complimentary kagools with their prawn sandwiches.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Don’t think Fosun see the stadium as priority given they don’t own the stadium the council do.

 

[we love jez moxey]

An interesting and relevant observation when talking about stadium capacity or season ticket prices.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02fsWdXVxNRZjzSqidMAELsqAQSDoTcP2YmhTJngRVvRRa76EGbE2uU8x6EkUez1t3l&id=100063604779611

I've seen this guy quoted a fair few times over the years. Perhaps if he did charge the English rates he wouldn't have gone to jail for fraud and tax evasion

 

[we love jez moxey]

Don’t think Fosun see the stadium as priority given they don’t own the stadium the council do.

Behave yourself.

 

[GV Wolf]

Don’t think Fosun see the stadium as priority given they don’t own the stadium the council do.

The Council do not own the stadium.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Don’t think Fosun see the stadium as priority given they don’t own the stadium the council do.

Rubbish. The club own the ground. The council own the land which it is on. It's leased to the club on a long (999 years l believe) term basis.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Rubbish. The club own the ground. The council own the land which it is on. It's leased to the club on a long (999 years l believe) term basis.

So the council own the land which still makes things difficult