Stadium Plans

[Coshamwolves]

That would be great but won't happen, it sounds like they prefer to renovate the John Ireland and then expand the South Bank. It could all turn out looking botched - 4 different styles in a stadium and no tier alignment.

I loved those Morgan renders of 10 years ago including the two-tiered South Bank. A one-tiered kop then became the fashion à la Spurs.

Nearly liked your post until you loved the two tier South Bank plans

 

[Sussex Wolf]

The option of a loan direct from Fosun's coffers is still a possibility though. The interest rate on that, will be as low as Fosun want it to be. If Fosun see value, they'll invest.

I doubt this is really a possibility because that’s not really how a company like Fosun operates. Would be different if it was Guo which bought Wolves and not Fosun.

Even if it were possible, then Fosun would be required by their shareholders to charge a reasonable rate of interest. As a minimum that would be the average cost of borrowing for Fosun themselves, or more typically, their target investment rate of return. If Fosun themselves were not under the spotlight by investors, the former might be better than a club like Wolves could raise commercially, but as they are I’m not so sure. I doubt Fosun’s IRR would be lower than commercial loan terms that Wolves could obtain for infrastructure investment.

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

That would be great but won't happen, it sounds like they prefer to renovate the John Ireland and then expand the South Bank. It could all turn out looking botched - 4 different styles in a stadium and no tier alignment.

I loved those Morgan renders of 10 years ago including the two-tiered South Bank. A one-tiered kop then became the fashion à la Spurs.

Guessing you’ve not been in the lower tier of the North Bank then.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

I doubt this is really a possibility because that’s not really how a company like Fosun operates. Would be different if it was Guo which bought Wolves and not Fosun.

Even if it were possible, then Fosun would be required by their shareholders to charge a reasonable rate of interest. As a minimum that would be the average cost of borrowing for Fosun themselves, or more typically, their target investment rate of return. If Fosun themselves were not under the spotlight by investors, the former might be better than a club like Wolves could raise commercially, but as they are I’m not so sure. I doubt Fosun’s IRR would be lower than commercial loan terms that Wolves could obtain for infrastructure investment.

Is this the same Fosun who loaned Wolves £126.5M interest free and later wrote off the debt?

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Is this the same Fosun who loaned Wolves £126.5M interest free and later wrote off the debt?

It is, but it’s different. Fosun spent that money buying Wolves and investing in the squad to get us promoted. They later converted that loan into equity once it had paid out in a much increased asset value of the club. Most owners do not convert their soft loans into equity, so the fact Fosun did, suggests it was beneficial in some regard eg to attract future investors. In any case, their loan generated a return far greater than the interest on a commercial loan of similar value over the same period.

If Fosun were to spend another 70m improving the stadium, it is less clear that would translate into more than 70m of additional asset value. Not impossible, just less certain. Hence I think it much less likely Fosun would loan the money for stadium expansion to Wolves in the form of a soft loan as they did before, unless it was tied to some project which would clearly boost the value of the club beyond the loan.

 

[clivewolves]

Wolves receiving backing for permanent match day fan zone with food, drink and play area

Wolves football club is to open a permanent match day ‘fan zone’ outside Molineux, which will include stalls selling official merchandise, food and drink including alcohol, a children’s play area and live entertainment.

www.expressandstar.com

 

[SmokeyGB]

Wolves receiving backing for permanent match day fan zone with food, drink and play area

Wolves football club is to open a permanent match day ‘fan zone’ outside Molineux, which will include stalls selling official merchandise, food and drink including alcohol, a children’s play area and live entertainment.

www.expressandstar.com

Might be an idea to put a roof to cover it, then through the cold months we play it'll have shelter for people to go and walk around.

If its cold and raining, sod walking round I'm jnto the concourse of the ground or pub till kick off.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Might be an idea to put a roof to cover it, then through the cold months we play it'll have shelter for people to go and walk around.

If its cold and raining, sod walking round I'm jnto the concourse of the ground or pub till kick off.

Looking at the cgi images in the E&S article, there is a small covered area.

 

[SmokeyGB]

Looking at the cgi images in the E&S article, there is a small covered area.

To house 1500 people?
Leeds United had that Hall next to the main stand, bug enough so we could house all the COVID vaccines to be taken in.
Like putting up an umbrella in a rain storm looking at it for 1500 people.

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

If you've been watching Liverpool v Man City game could you see what a good job they're doing for the redevelopment of the Anfield Road stand.
They are building / erecting the roof of this stand higher and on top of the existing roof to expand that stand and the grounds capacity. I presume they'll take the old roof down in the summer for next season and the completion of this stand with the minimal loss of their capacity for the interim period.
This is exactly how the South Bank needs to be redeveloped for a larger capacity for Molineux. Plus at the same time the Graham Hughes Stand could possibly be covered also while building a larger roof first over all of the South Bank .

Anfield Road Stand expansion six months on - Liverpool FC

It has been six months since work began on the Anfield Road Stand redevelopment to increase capacity at Anfield to 61,000.

www.liverpoolfc.com

 

[Oakhamwolf]

Roof coming down during the World Cup

 

[Aylesbury Wolf]

Roof coming down during the World Cup

Is that to match up the South Bank with the Graham Hughes stand? I hope the club have bought plenty of rain ponchos for when the bad weather hits!

 

[Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)]

Wolves receiving backing for permanent match day fan zone with food, drink and play area

Wolves football club is to open a permanent match day ‘fan zone’ outside Molineux, which will include stalls selling official merchandise, food and drink including alcohol, a children’s play area and live entertainment.

www.expressandstar.com

TBH, that looks pretty pathetic, McGhee's beer garden has more cover than that, looks like some school project made with cereal packets.

 

[Bull]

If you've been watching Liverpool v Man City game could you see what a good job they're doing for the redevelopment of the Anfield Road stand.
They are building / erecting the roof of this stand higher and on top of the existing roof to expand that stand and the grounds capacity. I presume they'll take the old roof down in the summer for next season and the completion of this stand with the minimal loss of their capacity for the interim period.
This is exactly how the South Bank needs to be redeveloped for a larger capacity for Molineux. Plus at the same time the Graham Hughes Stand could possibly be covered also while building a larger roof first over all of the South Bank .

Anfield Road Stand expansion six months on - Liverpool FC

It has been six months since work began on the Anfield Road Stand redevelopment to increase capacity at Anfield to 61,000.

www.liverpoolfc.com

Yes looking good. Anfield will soon have 2 magnificent stands.

 

[SanFranWolf]

Looks rubbish but tbh I don’t expect anything else from the club when it comes to the stadium these days.

Even Tranmere Rovers are more ambitious with their designs for a fan zone:

 

[Southdownswolf]

Looks rubbish but tbh I don’t expect anything else from the club when it comes to the stadium these days.

Even Tranmere Rovers are more ambitious with their designs for a fan zone:

I don't think much of their pitch behind though, it's got trees growing on it

 

[greco wolf]

Looks rubbish but tbh I don’t expect anything else from the club when it comes to the stadium these days.

Even Tranmere Rovers are more ambitious with their designs for a fan zone:

Agreed. It should have cover over it. Otherwise won’t be able to use it most of the year

 

[Locks Heath Wolf]

Interesting comments from the Palace Chairman regarding stadium development, spot on. Cmon me babbies…!

 

[SanFranWolf]

The way Fosun seem to be running the club means at least they won’t have to worry about stadium expansion any more.

 

[woop woop barmy army]

The way Fosun seem to be running the club means at least they won’t have to worry about stadium expansion any more.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see these clowns try and sell the site and get us playing at Willenhall town

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see these clowns try and sell the site and get us playing at Willenhall town

Luckily for us they can't do that as they don't own the Molineux site

 

[Berlin Wolf]

I wonder when we fans shall hear about the Steve Bull Stand revamp getting underway, as outlined by Russell Jones.
I see Crystal Palace got an updated green light last week for their new main stand seating 13,500, with 10,700 general admission seats.
It raises Selhurst Park's capacity from 26,000 to 34,000, a good increase. A similar sized revamped Steve Bull Stand would see a 4,000+ increase.
A long journey ahead for Palace but they are progressing their plans well, getting brilliant support from Croydon Council, good luck to them with this challenge.

Palace gets green light for revised Selhurst Park plans

Croydon Council’s planning committee first gave the application the green light four years ago, but it was delayed by COVID-19...

www.thestadiumbusiness.com

‘Overjoyed’: Steve Parish responds to Main Stand go-ahead - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

www.cpfc.co.uk

Palace given the go-ahead for revised Main Stand development - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

www.cpfc.co.uk

These comments by Steve Parish were very telling..
Commenting on why the development will be so significant for the club, Parish said: “If you’re not moving forward you’re standing still in the Premier League… Aston Villa have got planning permission to enlarge the stadium, Leeds are looking at more seats in the stadium.

 

[Stourport wolf]

We won't employ a manager, when we are seriously facing relegation, so there will be no chance of stadium development.
I would love to see it happen, but promises are easy and we are experts in being let down.

 

[ToastedWanderer]

I wouldn't put it past this lot to sell Molineux to Asda and worry about where we play next once the third planning application has been turned down..

 

[Berlin Wolf]

We won't employ a manager, when we are seriously facing relegation, so there will be no chance of stadium development.
I would love to see it happen, but promises are easy and we are experts in being let down.

It seems what you say, is how it is panning out Stourport.
Everton, Newcastle, Leicester, Leeds, Villa, Forest and Palace, outside the Big Six, similar to Wolves in size and supposed ambitions..
Yet, all moving their stadium redevelopment plans along in various stages, Everton are making great progress at Bramley Moore Dock.

 

[Irish_Wolf]

I don't think much of their pitch behind though, it's got trees growing on it

Thats the new planned back 4.

 

[DJW]

TBH, that looks pretty pathetic, McGhee's beer garden has more cover than that, looks like some school project made with cereal packets.

Wow, what a shocking design! AFL Architects should be ashamed of themselves with that. Surely better to turn work down than be associated with that s##te

 

[Leigh72]

We will soon be back amongst the dead men, quite sad really, so near yet so far

 

[RosehillWolf]

Whatever happened to all the talk about a 10000 strong south bank ?
More pie in the sky bull****

 

[WickedWolfie]

I wonder when we fans shall hear about the Steve Bull Stand revamp getting underway, as outlined by Russell Jones.
I see Crystal Palace got an updated green light last week for their new main stand seating 13,500, with 10,700 general admission seats.
It raises Selhurst Park's capacity from 26,000 to 34,000, a good increase. A similar sized revamped Steve Bull Stand would see a 4,000+ increase.
A long journey ahead for Palace but they are progressing their plans well, getting brilliant support from Croydon Council, good luck to them with this challenge.

Palace gets green light for revised Selhurst Park plans

Croydon Council’s planning committee first gave the application the green light four years ago, but it was delayed by COVID-19...

www.thestadiumbusiness.com

‘Overjoyed’: Steve Parish responds to Main Stand go-ahead - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

www.cpfc.co.uk

Palace given the go-ahead for revised Main Stand development - News - Crystal Palace F.C.

www.cpfc.co.uk

These comments by Steve Parish were very telling..
Commenting on why the development will be so significant for the club, Parish said: “If you’re not moving forward you’re standing still in the Premier League… Aston Villa have got planning permission to enlarge the stadium, Leeds are looking at more seats in the stadium.

Interestingly lots of people who live in the area are VERY fed up with Croydon council over this. A number of councillors fear that they will lose their seats.....

Edited to add:

Residents’ groups show red card to Palace’s £100m new stand

Locals living near Selhurst Park have organised to oppose the new stand – despite being frozen out of meetings by their Labour councillors Two residents’ associations in the area around…

insidecroydon.com

It still needs approval by both the Mayor of London and potentially HMG (DHLUC to be precise) too.

 

[Berlin Wolf]

Whatever happened to all the talk about a 10000 strong south bank ?
More pie in the sky bull****

A 10k South Bank, new Steve Bull Stand, reprofiled Steve Bull Stand, 500 seat new temp stand, 46K stadium, a step by step revamp, the 50k stadium render at the Telford awards in 2019.. quite a list, nothing so far, any start looks years down the line.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

Close the thread this bell ends could build a Duplo lego ****ing house

Absolute comedy show

 

[WickedWolfie]

Close the thread this bell ends could build a Duplo levi ****ing house

Absolute cabbages

Cabbages???

What have you heard about Brucey???

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Can we just kill this thread now.

We can’t afford a manager let alone a new stadium. Post relegation it won’t matter.

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Can we just kill this thread now.

We can’t afford a manager let alone a new stadium. Post relegation it won’t matter.

If we get in a new CEO or even new owners in I'm sure the redevelopment of Molineux will be back on the agenda again..

As Jeff Shi has definitely lost the plot never mind the project

 

[SmiffyWolf]

Cabbages???

What have you heard about Brucey???

DOF 15 year deal

Sellars new manager and Jeff going to compete with Costa for the holding striker role .

Mind you I did hear that Santa was coming after Christmas so my source might have this wrong .

He mentioned mesut Ozil but as the Disney song goes we don't mention Bruno . We don't mention Mesut

 

[Mr Sizzle]

Whatever happened to all the talk about a 10000 strong south bank ?
More pie in the sky bull****

Filed in the same cabinet as “ new manager “ underneath “ new striker “ in between “ ticket price increases”

 

[Pagey]

Can we go back to something like this please?

 

[Munro Munro]

Its all about a bit of style over function, here is the new Everton stadium at least this looks something different

 

[Bradstonian]

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Can we go back to something like this please?

I think the old Molineux Street stand was tapered because of the road it backed onto. We have a far bigger ground now because the streets behind that stand and the North Bank were removed. The old stadium footprint wouldn't have allowed for any decent sized stadium with modern facilities. Would make a nice cake though.