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It's more the whole process and that we're two weeks in. and still don't have a manager.
I agree, we should be quicker, but I’m not an expert on football manager recruitment as I imagine most people aren’t, and let’s be honest we don’t know how many people they’ve looked at/spoken to/ enquired about, we are relying on tidbits of information on a club that lets be honest isn’t known for dumping all their business into the open. I do know that I imagine there’s a lot of pressure to get this appointment right, both from fans and I imagine internally in which case I can understand why this might be taking a bit of time. If we bring in a Gallardo level type, **** it take the month! If we bring in a Scott Parker then yeah criticism is warranted.
 

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Its still early in the season, not long enough for the calibre of managers we are looking to have been dispensed with yet, especially with the World Cup around the corner. We could pick up your average Joe tomorrow but it’s unlikely people would be happy.
I include in that not sacking him last season and the transfer window.
 

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Agree with earlier posters - this thing with us supposedly approaching Nuno yet saying he’s not the no1 target doesnt make much sense to me at all! To start with it would be a major volte-face by Shi that would take some explaining on his part and then why would he risk make a fool of himself by going to all the trouble of asking another club about taking their manager back from them when he is only just into a new contract and when he is only a sort of “back-up” candidate in any event? Seems crazy!
 

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Sounds more like Nuno/ his team have been leaking the info. It's all been about how keen he is but that the club are keeping options open.
Why would Nuno leak that he's not first choice?

Any half decent journalist is going to be tapping both sides. Wolves didn't need to confirm it, not state he isn't first choice. And who's leaking Edwards.....Nuno and his team?!
 

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Agree with earlier posters - this thing with us supposedly approaching Nuno yet saying he’s not the no1 target doesnt make much sense to me at all! To start with it would be a major volte-face by Shi that would take some explaining on his part and then why would he risk make a fool of himself by going to all the trouble of asking another club about taking their manager back from them when he is only just into a new contract and when he is only a sort of “back-up” candidate in any event? Seems crazy!
Does seem odd

Percy has made no comment on these Nuno rumours. The only thing he’s had to say so far is that Edwards had been interviewed. Nothing about Nuno.
 

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Sa's injury was before the window closed.
Are we allowed to sign a goalkeeper as this must be deemed an emergency situation.
 

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Plan B?
Captain Sensible!
Happy talk keep talking happy talk..
 

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..at end of season when we all go WOT?..Glad it´s all over.
 

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If we are not getting a Mendes man that surely means Shi is making the decision .
What does he really know about top European managers ?
Very worrying.
 

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If we are not getting a Mendes man that surely means Shi is making the decision .
What does he really know about top European managers ?
Very worrying.
Or Sellars? And the E&S said it was his idea to interview his good mate Rob Edwards.
 

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Why would Nuno leak that he's not first choice?

Any half decent journalist is going to be tapping both sides. Wolves didn't need to confirm it, not state he isn't first choice. And who's leaking Edwards.....Nuno and his team?!

You do realise that information could have come from more than one source? Nuno briefs he wants the job and is speaking to Wolves because it would be an upgrade on where he is at present. Wolves then have to keep a lid on people assuming Nuno is nailed on to return by briefing that they are considering other choices who may be the priority.

As for Edwards, substitute "Edwards" for "Nuno" in the above and you have your answer.
 

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In 2007 Graham Potter was technical director of the ghana women's national team.

If we were linked with potter then can you imagine the meltdown then.

You never know who is going to be the next big manager.

It's all about someone taking a gamble
 

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In 2007 Graham Potter was technical director of the ghana women's national team.

If we were linked with potter then can you imagine the meltdown then.

You never know who is going to be the next big manager.

It's all about someone taking a gamble
But if you had just thrown Potter into a Premier League relegation battle in 2007, he'd probably have crashed and burned and been a minor footnote in "Most Random Appointments Ever" articles ever since.

The Potter you see today had time to develop slowly out of the spotlight and to move step by step to ever greater challenges and learn huge amounts along the way.

A responsible big-level business won't just chuck someone with little to no experience into the frying pan of leading that business in the hope that they might eventually develop into a competent manager.

Of course any appointment is a risk as nobody knows the future but the task of a well-functioning recruitment process is to minimise that risk as much as possible so that there can be a degree of confidence that the appointment will work.
 

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There's no way Fosun dont want Nuno back. Why would we approach his club, as confirmed by the owner, unless he was the no 1 choice. It's not like he needs an interview.
The only problem will be his requirements for taking the job. If the club can't reach agreement perhaps they are floating the idea he wasn't the prime contender after losing out on Julen.
This is it imo. They approached and he said ‘huh, of course I’ll come back. This is Wolves we are talking about. But on one condition, this time we do it my way.’
 

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In 2007 Graham Potter was technical director of the ghana women's national team.

If we were linked with potter then can you imagine the meltdown then.

You never know who is going to be the next big manager.

It's all about someone taking a gamble

You did miss out the steady progression in his career before he was appointed a PL coach though, so not really a fair comparison. Potter had won promotion multiple times for his club in Sweden, and even got them into the Europa League before he got the Swansea job in the champ. He then did well in his short time there before Brighton poached him for his first PL role. Sure it’s good if you can identify up and coming coaching talent, as some other clubs seem to, but we appear woefully equipped to do the same.
 

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You do realise that information could have come from more than one source?
Yes, the clue was in the second line of my reply 'any decent journalist is going to be tapping both sides'
 

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micheal Beale is 3rd favourite according ti the bookies lol
Ridiculous having the decorated Marcelo Gallardo next to a bloke whose only claim to fame is sharing his surname with the most pathetic character in the history of UK soaps
 

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Why would Nuno leak that he's not first choice?

Any half decent journalist is going to be tapping both sides. Wolves didn't need to confirm it, not state he isn't first choice. And who's leaking Edwards.....Nuno and his team?!

Not the bit about being first choice, but Nuno's camp can have been leaking the bit about him being in the frame, then journo's have followed up at the club and been told on background that, yes, he's an option but not the first choice.
 

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But if you had just thrown Potter into a Premier League relegation battle in 2007, he'd probably have crashed and burned and been a minor footnote in "Most Random Appointments Ever" articles ever since.

The Potter you see today had time to develop slowly out of the spotlight and to move step by step to ever greater challenges and learn huge amounts along the way.

A responsible big-level business won't just chuck someone with little to no experience into the frying pan of leading that business in the hope that they might eventually develop into a competent manager.

Of course any appointment is a risk as nobody knows the future but the task of a well-functioning recruitment process is to minimise that risk as much as possible so that there can be a degree of confidence that the appointment will work.
100% right , great post
 

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You did miss out the steady progression in his career before he was appointed a PL coach though, so not really a fair comparison. Potter had won promotion multiple times for his club in Sweden, and even got them into the Europa League before he got the Swansea job in the champ. He then did well in his short time there before Brighton poached him for his first PL role. Sure it’s good if you can identify up and coming coaching talent, as some other clubs seem to, but we appear woefully equipped to do the same.
Yes agree
 

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Not the bit about being first choice, but Nuno's camp can have been leaking the bit about him being in the frame, then journo's have followed up at the club and been told on background that, yes, he's an option but not the first choice.
That's precisely my point. They didn't need to say it, it's incredibly disrespectful to a bloke who they owe a little more respect and goodwill to.

Think about it - if you're a manager and you're interested, you ensure the journos get your side. No issues there, nobody should have an issue, that's how it works.

On the other hand, how many clubs have come out and said ANY manager is interesting to them but not their first choice, let alone a manager who has a history with the club in the way Nuno has. When does this kind of disrespectful behaviour happen at any other club?

It's arrogant, demeaning and uncalled for, and they're going to look like even bigger mugs if we end up with an underwhelming appointment
 

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That's precisely my point. They didn't need to say it, it's incredibly disrespectful to a bloke who they owe a little more respect and goodwill to.

Think about it - if you're a manager and you're interested, you ensure the journos get your side. No issues there, nobody should have an issue, that's how it works.

On the other hand, how many clubs have come out and said ANY manager is interesting to them but not their first choice, let alone a manager who has a history with the club in the way Nuno has. When does this kind of disrespectful behaviour happen at any other club?

It's arrogant, demeaning and uncalled for, and they're going to look like even bigger mugs if we end up with an underwhelming appointment

It happens all the time.
 

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That's precisely my point. They didn't need to say it, it's incredibly disrespectful to a bloke who they owe a little more respect and goodwill to.

Think about it - if you're a manager and you're interested, you ensure the journos get your side. No issues there, nobody should have an issue, that's how it works.

On the other hand, how many clubs have come out and said ANY manager is interesting to them but not their first choice, let alone a manager who has a history with the club in the way Nuno has. When does this kind of disrespectful behaviour happen at any other club?

It's arrogant, demeaning and uncalled for, and they're going to look like even bigger mugs if we end up with an underwhelming appointment
Sly and slimey ****s !
 

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That's precisely my point. They didn't need to say it, it's incredibly disrespectful to a bloke who they owe a little more respect and goodwill to.

Think about it - if you're a manager and you're interested, you ensure the journos get your side. No issues there, nobody should have an issue, that's how it works.

On the other hand, how many clubs have come out and said ANY manager is interesting to them but not their first choice, let alone a manager who has a history with the club in the way Nuno has. When does this kind of disrespectful behaviour happen at any other club?

It's arrogant, demeaning and uncalled for, and they're going to look like even bigger mugs if we end up with an underwhelming appointment

Feels like people are really going for this narrative but the truth is the club hasn’t said anything whatsoever, have they? Unless I’ve missed it.

The story of Nuno being in talks, and apparently not being first choice, has been totally driven by media who are obviously getting tip offs from their agent friends.

It’s not as if Jeff or anyone has literally said ‘yeah we’ve spoken to Nuno but we’re hoping for better’.

A few days ago he was getting pelters for apparently not interviewing anyone other than Lopetegui, so probs makes sense that they’re now seemingly speaking to a few different options?
 
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