Ref Watch -Brentford H

[djmikeydickens]

Ref had a decent game overall. Shocker for the pen tho. Seems a standard thing not to give them now and just let VAR deal with it...or not if it's a wolves badge on the shirt

 

[maws]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

Right in front of us, I’m afraid I disagree, wiped out it’s a clear penalty

 

[Netherton Wolf]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

I've just seen replay, went down a bit too easily

 

[BridgnorthWolf Inc]

AGENDA.
Var is the oppositions 12th man every week it seems.

 

[Jefe]

Right in front of us, I’m afraid I disagree, wiped out it’s a clear penalty

For me, Toti was looking for it. There might be an argument for the arm of the keeper on him, but I think it was a sensible call from Tierney. Nothing like Pope at Newcastle. Once you get a replay you'll see it.

 

[JadeWolf]

Why didn’t he give their number 8 a second booking when he did the blatant pull back? Other than that he was great.

 

[LaurenceHenry]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Darbena]

it looked like a penalty in real time and the replay looks like a penalty

 

[Mark Rankines Lovechild]

Its the sort of penalty you only get if you are Arsenal, City, United, Liverpool and playing a “lesser” team (or if you are Harry Kane)

 

[Zico]

Replay looks like no penalty to me. Would have been very soft, for once you can't blame Attwell for not overturning.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

It was a clear penalty.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647257347625025536

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

One of worst decisions this season

Gave that foul about 10 times other times in the game. Weak ref

The lack of yellow for the shirt pull was a disgrace though

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

It was. You have to watch the different angles, and in some it looked soft, and in others, stonewall. VAR failed us again, since it had all the angles and didn’t even ask the ref to review it.

 

[old wittonian]

They're reinventing that tv show The Comedians.

 

[mikic]

I have zero faith in VAR. Absolute waste of time. What is the point if that isn't given. Joke.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

It was a penalty, and he also failed to give Jensen a second yellow for a very clear shirt pull. He was ok apart from that, but I couldn’t call him “very good”. Attwell on VAR was his usual pathetic self for not asking the ref to review different angles for the penalty shout.

 

[SuperGran]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

Even Brentford fans agree it was a penalty

 

[S G Wolves]

No 8 has to have a second yellow. A blatant booking as ever been. I bet Thomas Frank will miss that in his after game interview.

Ref bottled the decision.

 

[Plastic Shrapnel]

If you check your elbow across the face of another player it's a foul.

I genuinely think they were concentrating on what was happening with their feet.

Absolute stonewall penalty.

 

[Wellington Wolf]

Difficult to see from where I was but this ones on VAR not the ref. It was sent up and quickly rejected.

As an aside. Who do you reckon would have taken it?

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

At half time I thought it was a very good performance. Second half he totally lost after the failure to award the pen (maybe I need some more angles, but it couldn't have looked more blatant live) glad our players got their **** back together before anything went wrong. Was the second half shirt pull the same player as the first half, absolute bottle job if so.

Thing with the pen is live it seemed absolute stonewall, but ref goes straight to VAR, but VAR is only overruling a clear error. Typical of the abdication of responsibility that's going on.

So awful, but either because we won, or because the bar is so low, I don't care tonight (it's the first one).

 

[Sussex Wolf]

At half time I thought it was a very good performance. Second half he totally lost after the failure to award the pen (maybe I need some more angles, but it couldn't have looked more blatant live) glad our players got their **** back together before anything went wrong. Was the second half shirt pull the same player as the first half, absolute bottle job if so.

Thing with the pen is live it seemed absolute stonewall, but ref goes straight to VAR, but VAR is only overruling a clear error. Typical of the abdication of responsibility that's going on.

So awful, but either because we won, or because the bar is so low, I don't care tonight (it's the first one).

Yep, same player.

 

[LW1]

For me the penalty is 50/50. What wasn't 50/50 was the second shirt pull. If you are booked once there shouldn't be a higher tariff for second offense. He should have gone.

 

[JadeWolf]

Difficult to see from where I was but this ones on VAR not the ref. It was sent up and quickly rejected.

As an aside. Who do you reckon would have taken it?

Cunha

 

[Matt]

Difficult to see from where I was but this ones on VAR not the ref. It was sent up and quickly rejected.

As an aside. Who do you reckon would have taken it?

It’s kind of on VAR, but it’s kind of on the ref too. By not giving it, they are opening it up to having to be “clear and obvious” to overturn. This is yet another case where if the ref actually gave the penalty, there is no way the VAR overturns it.

I just don’t know what we need to happen for us to get a penalty.

 

[JadeWolf]

It’s kind of on VAR, but it’s kind of on the ref too. By not giving it, they are opening it up to having to be “clear and obvious” to overturn. This is yet another case where if the ref actually gave the penalty, there is no way the VAR overturns it.

I just don’t know what we need to happen for us to get a penalty.

Which begs the question, why did the referee not give it? Is it because he genuinely didn’t think it was a penalty? Or because he wanted to be cautious and hope VAR helps him out if he’s stuffed up?

 

[Fenrir_]

Said it months ago that refs aren't giving the big decisions on the pitch, they shy away from them 'safe' in the knowledge that VAR should sort anything out if they've got it wrong, but VAR is backing the refs' on field decisions whether wrong or right, so all you end up with is refs shirking responsibility and VAR backing them

It's a total cluster ****

 

[Matt]

Which begs the question, why did the referee not give it? Is it because he genuinely didn’t think it was a penalty? Or because he wanted to be cautious and hope VAR helps him out if he’s stuffed up?

Exactly. The whole system is a joke.

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Said it months ago that refs aren't giving the big decisions on the pitch, they shy away from them 'safe' in the knowledge that VAR should sort anything out if they've got it wrong, but VAR is backing the refs' on field decisions whether wrong or right, so all you end up with is refs shirking responsibility and VAR backing them

It's a total cluster ****

I agree, except last week the Newcastle one the ref did exactly the same and VAR gave the pen. I've only seen it live (other side of SB) and the highlights, maybe there's an angle it looks soft from, I can't see how anyone thinks it's not a pen though.

 

[Perton Wolf]

Thought Tierney was largely good, some of you lot would moan regardless to be honest.

Disagree with him on the pen in real time though, looked like it was. Need to see some proper replays of it in any case though, having Attwell on VAR likely didn't help considering how useless he was at Spurs Vs Brighton last week.

 

[Fenrir_]

I agree, except last week the Newcastle one the ref did exactly the same and VAR gave the pen. I've only seen it live (other side of SB) and the highlights, maybe there's an angle it looks soft from, I can't see how anyone thinks it's not a pen though.

Just another to add to the list, got to be six or seven stone wall penalties we've been denied since Lopetegui took over, got to think that if refs didn't have VAR to fall back on, we'd have got at least a couple of them

 

[DasWolf]

Thought Tierney was largely good, some of you lot would moan regardless to be honest.

Disagree with him on the pen in real time though, looked like it was. Need to see some proper replays of it in any case though, having Attwell on VAR likely didn't help considering how useless he was at Spurs Vs Brighton last week.

He got a penalty call wrong, and he got not giving a second yellow for a second blatant shirt pull by Jensen. Those were the two biggest decisions of the match and they were wrong. Apart from that there wasn't that much he had to do.

I don't think a referee blowing major calls and not giving stonewall penalties again is having a moan when it's pointed out that it's very poor.

 

[Perton Wolf]

He got a penalty call wrong, and he got not giving a second yellow for a second blatant shirt pull by Jensen. Those were the two biggest decisions of the match and they were wrong. Apart from that there wasn't that much he had to do.

I don't think a referee blowing major calls and not giving stonewall penalties again is having a moan when it's pointed out that it's very poor.

The shirt pull wasn't all that the second time round, if one of ours was given a second booking for that you'd all be complaining. And no, a shirt pull isn't an automatic card as some of you bang on about, more about the context. Our player was heading towards the touchline, was more of a short tug rather than a long hold and it wasn't stopping a promising attack.....not a card.

 

[Jefe]

It was a penalty, and he also failed to give Jensen a second yellow for a very clear shirt pull.

Not for me regarding the second shirt pull. Yes, it's a shirt pull, but is a pull automatically worthy of a booking in the middle of the pitch? I put that one in the, "Do that again and you're gone" category. It seemed like common sense to me, and I'm one who has raged against recent injustices against us.

 

[old wittonian]

Not for me regarding the second shirt pull. Yes, it's a shirt pull, but is a pull automatically worthy of a booking in the middle of the pitch? I put that one in the, "Do that again and you're gone" category. It seemed like common sense to me, and I'm one who has raged against recent injustices against us.

He'd already had a 'don't do that again' with the yellow card.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

He'd already had a don't do that again with the yellow card.

Exactly. This is precisely what a yellow card is supposed to mean.

 

[old wittonian]

Said it months ago that refs aren't giving the big decisions on the pitch, they shy away from them 'safe' in the knowledge that VAR should sort anything out if they've got it wrong, but VAR is backing the refs' on field decisions whether wrong or right, so all you end up with is refs shirking responsibility and VAR backing them

It's a total cluster ****

All mates together.

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

If you check your elbow across the face of another player it's a foul.

I genuinely think they were concentrating on what was happening with their feet.

Absolute stonewall penalty.

That is why. as in cricket, they should say what they are checking for.

 

[Gazebowolf]

Tierney was very good today. It absolutely was not a penalty on Toti.

I agree, if that was at the other end and it was given against Sa then we would be going apoplectic. The games gone if that is deeemed a penalty.

 

[glorybox]

With the penalty, question - would that have been given as a foul anywhere else on the pitch…? 100% yes. Scandalous on field decision by a referee AGAIN.