Nationalities

[stuj4z]

Just a query rather than a rant, but does anyone know when the first time wolves fielded a totally non-English side was?

I'm sure it has happened already with our Irish and Welsh contingent but not too sure

 

[Perton Wolf]

Just a query rather than a rant, but does anyone know when the first time wolves fielded a totally non-English side was?

I'm sure it has happened already with our Irish and Welsh contingent but not too sure

Don't think it would have happened recently with players like Keogh, Henry, Kightly and Jarvis regularly in the side over the McCarthy area.

 

[TheStalePolice]

Good question. I doubt it personally. But someone will know for a fact.

 

[Pengwern]

We need to be careful because of the rules on having 8+ (i think) Home-grown players in the squad of 25 when we get back up.

 

[Golden_Wolf]

We need to be careful because of the rules on having 8+ (i think) Home-grown players in the squad of 25 when we get back up.

Let's concentrate on getting up 1st

 

[Batman]

Could happen now though:-

Ikeme
Zubar
Ward
Margreitter
Berra
Boukari
Sako
Edwards
Doumbia
Sigurdarson
Doyle

 

[Perton Wolf]

Could happen now though:-

Ikeme
Zubar
Ward
Margreitter
Berra
Boukari
Sako
Edwards
Doumbia
Sigurdarson
Doyle

Thankfully Edwards wouldn't play ahead of Henry plus Ikeme is English anyway.

 

[manc_wolf]

I would be astounded if we've ever fielded a completely non-english side... even including homegrown players...

 

[Batman]

Thankfully Edwards wouldn't play ahead of Henry plus Ikeme is English anyway.

Declared for Nigeria though. Put De Vries there instead if you wanna split hairs though!

 

[Perton Wolf]

Declared for Nigeria though. Put De Vries there instead if you wanna split hairs though!

Yes but he's still English And I hope De Vries never starts another game in goal for us haha

 

[Essex Wolf]

I would be astounded if we've ever fielded a completely non-english side... even including homegrown players...

Could happen mind with Stale making most of his signings from abroad.

When Hennessey is fit and should he take back the No1 jersey then the back four could contain Zubar, Margreitter and Elokobi, centre midfield of Doumbia and Sako, winger of Peszco and Doyle up front. That's 8 non English players that could well feature before any further signings are made.

 

[Batman]

Yes but he's still English And I hope De Vries never starts another game in goal for us haha

Hennessey?

Just messing but it is possible that we could put out a non-english team. Not that it bothers me especially when Scots and Welsh are in the side. It is still nice to have some British idendity.

 

[Craddockinho]

If they were all from Panama and we got promoted I couldn't care less.

Nationality is an abstract concept anyway.

One love.

 

[WasStefan]

Yes but he's still English And I hope De Vries never starts another game in goal for us haha

What is that absolute nonesense based on?

 

[Perton Wolf]

What is that absolute nonesense based on?

Because he's crap maybe?

 

[WasStefan]

Because he's crap maybe?

And you're basing that on what?

If you're basing it on one carling cup game early last season then you're a fool.

He had a run of 5/6 games at the end of last season and didn't put a foot wrong.

But don't let facts...

 

[stuj4z]

If they were all from Panama and we got promoted I couldn't care less.

Nationality is an abstract concept anyway.

One love.

Exactly, it doesn't matter but if we have ever had a team of none English players, being an English club, you'd think someone would know

 

[long ball man]

I think it does matter actually. The affinity we had with the team c. 2006/10 was to a large extent based on the fact that the 'young and hungry' players were British.

Funny I should have this view really as not one for flag waving patriotism as a rule...after all the concept of being Proud to be British, English, Black Country etc is nebulous; after all it is nothing more than an accident of birth.

However I think in this day and age of footballers being so far detached from supporters it is a crumb of comfort that some of them may have similar backgrounds to some of us. I have always liked Karl Henry as a bloke and i think i have given him more latitude as a player because of his Wolverhampton upbringing.

Personally the Wolves are about the only connection I still have with my birthplace. Having a bunch of mercenaries representing me and the city does not do much to deter the view that Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club is amisnomer. Hence my oft repeated call for continuity and a DoF.

 

[shaygriff]

On FM 2012, in my team. Henry and SEB played for Jamaica.

 

[johnybig32]

Is home grown English or British?

You also have to understand what homegrown means. It doesnt just mean English.

They need to have been playing here for x amount of years or under a certain age I think?

 

[A wanderer from Bristol]

Is home grown English or British?

Can be Irish or European if they join the club young enough I believe..

 

[Perton Wolf]

And you're basing that on what?

If you're basing it on one carling cup game early last season then you're a fool.

He had a run of 5/6 games at the end of last season and didn't put a foot wrong.

But don't let facts...

Nope, everytime I've seen him play he's been a lot worse than Ikeme and Hennessey.

 

[WasStefan]

Nope, everytime I've seen him play he's been a lot worse than Ikeme and Hennessey.

Well you must have been watching different matches to me

Hennessey wasn't missed at the end of last season.

 

[The_Ned]

Can be Irish or European if they join the club young enough I believe..

Fabregas counted as home grown for Arsenal!

 

[marrs-guitar]

Just a query rather than a rant, but does anyone know when the first time wolves fielded a totally non-English side was?

I'm sure it has happened already with our Irish and Welsh contingent but not too sure

I'm pretty sure it's never happened. Players like Karl Henry and Jarvis played almost every single game they were available for in the last 4 seasons, plus Craddock or Stearman also had long spells in the side. Before that Lescott (bar one campaign) or Naylor were mostly ever-presents, with English keepers Murray, Oakes and Stowell between the sticks.

 

[Surrey Wolf]

any player who plays in england for 3yrs between the ages of 17-21 counts as a homegrown player, it's why the new EPPP is a load of rubbish & will do nothing for young British players as clubs just buy in foreign talent at youth level.

 

[stuj4z]

On FM 2012, in my team. Henry and SEB played for Jamaica.

Karl's dad is Jamaican that's why

 

[shaygriff]

Karl's dad is Jamaican that's why

Yes I know.

 

[stuj4z]

Yes I know.

When you get 5 seasons in a lot of strange choices happen with international football.

 

[Skonsengwolf]

That's the one thing I don't like about Ståle buying all these players from the continent. I hated it when Arsenal and Chelsea fielded teams without british players. Why? Don't really know, but if feels like cheating in a way. I always looked at football clubs as an institution that belonged to the communities, and to not have any local players, or even players from the same nation as the team, detaches the club somewhat.

And yes, I see the irony in a foreign supporter complaining about to many foreigners in the team, but it's just how I feel.