Imagine watching just one.. say a friendly involving 2 top teams without the offside rule, the mind boggles with inquisitive interest, just this one game would be such a spectacle.
And he never appealed.
Yes, remember watching that. He's actually more offside than Chirewa as he has a flick at the ball which could potentially have affected the keeper's attempt at a save. However I remember at the time people said 'well he wasn't saving it anyway', which is both correct and the whole point.
Since when have PGMOL ever applied logic ?
In the end though the referee reversed his own decision!
Only one I remember was, funnily enough and surprise surprise was against us, recently!
Didn’t it happen to us against Leeds when Traoré was fouled in the build up to their goal but the ref did nothing despite seeing it on the monitor ?
I think he purposely let that go as he’d been getting dogs abuse from the crowd.
My issue isn't that Chirewa was in an offside position or that Fabianski's view may have been impeded.
Not only an independent body, I think the independent VAR body should be done at European level and the teams of VAR officials should only be appointed to games by random draw 1 hour before kick off to minimise the risk of match fixing. This would prevent PGMOL deviating from european standards. If seperation of VAR from PGMOL is not an option it should be binned off altogether.
Yes indeed, that was the one. The only time I recall the ref sticking to their original call when sent to the monitor. Of course against us.
Sad that we must contemplate match fixing as a factor, but with the calls/non-calls we've seen almost exclusively against Wolves mounting up, you can't dismiss the possibility, can you? WWFC must send a signal, we will not be anyone's patsy or panto serial victim, Shi's statement this weekend was a good start ... but query why this wasn't stated earlier in the season? It's really ALL just been WAY too much, over the top.
My head is about to explode.
There should be absolutely no connection with the VAR officials and PGMOL. Mates judging/criticising mates absolute b******s.
Bottom line is we brought in VAR because PGMOL weren't competent enough/money changed hands, now we're trying to think of ways around the fact we can't trust PGMOL to use it properly, erm maybe we should just get rid of PGMOL.
I agree. However, who would it be replaced with? The same people under a different name?
My suggestion is all referees are employed directly by The FA. That there is a level of open accountability and rules that are focussed on integrity and consistency are developed. The attempts to improve the quality of officiating, PGMOL and all its self-interest and arrogance (watch Dermot Gallagher dismissing Neil Lennon) is a failure, VAR is a disaster, the whole thing is ruining a simple game that used to be enjoyed by millions.
Like so many decisions which has been made worse by VAR tbh as it takes time out of the game and the refs are just undermining each other really .
I'd love to sit in a TV studio and ask him why they are all hell bent on destroying the game, for their love of rules. Would Sky ever consider such a ting? I very much doubt it, but we can keep on hashtaging in SSN I guess.
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Clattenburg also says the goal should have stood. With so many differing opinions, and the fact neither the ref or linesman gave it initially, Fabianski nor the defenders appealed, surely that is evidence of no clear/obvious error.
IFAB have changed the rules by introducing interpretations like "not interfering with play", arm in a natural/ unnatural position etc.
Gallagher said that the Ref/VAR were right in terms of being to the letter of the law, but that perhaps the law needs claryifying/changing.
If match fixing is ever a factor then money is the likely factor and I doubt that it is anti-Wolves but it may be affecting clubs like Wolves more because there is less post match scrutiny of terrible decisions. Take Fulham v Wolves for instance. It was televised match with no other Premier League game in play at that time and hence heavily betted on world wide. Pulling play back a couple of minutes for a penalty that could not in any way be seen as conclusive stinks to high heaven. Both penalties aganst Wolves were extremely dubious in that game. Do that against a big club and there is hell to pay in the media, do it against Wolves and its forgotten by the media within a couple of days.
