Lopetegui

[Sussex Wolf]

Alot of people on here writing O'Neill off. They are probably the same people who claimed Eddie Howe was a fraud, not good enough and would be found out. I would suggest none of us really have a clue about how a managerial appointment will work out. I hope Lopetegui stays, purely from a continuity point of view but if he goes then so be it.

Well, you were proven wrong with your assertions last night that this was all journalist rubbish. Now you’ve caught up with JL leaving, you’re in the GON is ok camp? The guy sacked by those who knew him best, after he just kept them up. Yep, ringing endorsement there. The guy with less than a year’s experience as a coach, with no defined tactics, and no backroom staff. He may become a decent coach in time, but he needs more experience in the EFL where the pressure is less first.

As for Eddie Howe. He has masses of experience by comparison, and at EFL level before stepping up to the PL. I may not like some of his gamesmanship tactics, but I have never said he’s not effective, as he’s proven in his track record. O’Neil needs to go through the same EFL learning curve he did before he’s ready to take on a long term PL role.

 

[Supadavewolf]

has he gone yet?

Has who gone?

Have I missed something?

Nurse!!!

 

[Tring Wolf]

I agree with all of your points Tring but that didn't stop a great deal of people on here claiming he was a fraud and would be found out by going to NUFC. For the record I am not advocating appointing O'Neill.

No worries buddy and apologies if I came across overly defensive. It’s a fairly stressful time for all of us today!

 

[Norwegian Wolf]

And just for the record, Lop might have been the catalyst, but we were really saved last season by
1) Neves, who became world class after the World Cup and led us so well on the pitch
2) Dawson, who brought leadership and solidity to the defence and
3) Lemina, who was rock solid throughout

Lop took the glory, but those 3 players in particular (and the Molineux crowd) delivered the goods.

Meanwhile Lop took it upon himself to humiliate a Wolves legend (Raul) and spitefully deny another Wolves legend (Moutinho) a few moments of acclaim in a dead game (while picking Costa again and again and again). Bye Lop, enjoy Riyadh…

 

[Perton Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1688941780102778880

Could've just told Lop in May that we are skint and all this **** just before the start of the season could've been avoided.

Saying that, it's about time Shi was caught in his own web of lies.

 

[acoxy48]

Any more been said about Jeff Shi even being in the country?

 

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

From my experience negotiating on behalf of numerous Chinese businesses they can be very stubborn, they will not want the other side to feel like they got a “win” against them.

Similarly their pride will not accptable if they are regarded as losers in being able to be a success in running a football club especially if it is now losing value.

 

[Snarlingwolf]

This meeting seems to be going on a long time.
Surely, we should see some white smoke coming out of the chimney at Molineux anytime now????

 

[SA Wolf]

Well, you were proven wrong with your assertions last night that this was all journalist rubbish. Now you’ve caught up with JL leaving, you’re in the GON is ok camp? The guy sacked by those who knew him best, after he just kept them up. Yep, ringing endorsement there. The guy with less than a year’s experience as a coach, with no defined tactics, and no backroom staff. He may become a decent coach in time, but he needs more experience in the EFL where the pressure is less first.

As for Eddie Howe. He has masses of experience by comparison, and at EFL level before stepping up to the PL. I may not like some of his gamesmanship tactics, but I have never said he’s not effective, as he’s proven in his track record. O’Neil needs to go through the same EFL learning curve he did before he’s ready to take on a long term PL role.

Well, if he gets the Wolves' job, he will not be taking on a long-term PL role.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

Hasn’t gone yet please don’t jump the gun
Perhaps negotiations are extended because he wants to stay but Shi/Fosun are trying to force him out for his public comments on any incoming transfers/spending and decide they want a yes man, who knows certainly not us

I haven't seen anything that suggests there is a chance of him staying. isn't it all about how much cash he gets to go? That's the way the press on both sides and we have to accept there are two sides of briefing, are portraying it.

 

[Wolvesfcneil]

Some *******s is being posted on here about Lopetegui and we were dead and buried before he came in, alright he spent a few quid but to say **** off Lopetegui when he has clearly been shafted by Shi is ridiculous.

I'm sure all those saying it would just accept being ****ed over by your boss but I certainly wouldn't accept it.

 

[oldgoldheart]

twitter reckon he has already left

 

[Perton Wolf]

And just for the record, Lop might have been the catalyst, but we were really saved last season by
1) Neves, who became world class after the World Cup and led us so well on the pitch
2) Dawson, who brought leadership and solidity to the defence and
3) Lemina, who was rock solid throughout

Lop took the glory, but those 3 players in particular (and the Molineux crowd) delivered the goods.

Meanwhile Lop took it upon himself to humiliate a Wolves legend (Raul) and spitefully deny another Wolves legend (Moutinho) a few moments of acclaim in a dead game (while picking Costa again and again and again). Bye Lop, enjoy Riyadh…

You sound blinded by sentiment. Costa was a much better option up top than Raul last season and it was well known that Moutinho refused to play towards the end of the season too.

 

[Perton Wolf]

Some *******s is being posted on here about Lopetegui and we were dead and buried before he came in, alright he spent a few quid but to say **** off Lopetegui when he has clearly been shafted by Shi is ridiculous.

I'm sure all those saying it would just accept being ****ed over by your boss but I certainly wouldn't accept it.

Some people will do all they can on here to defend Shi and FOSUN, almost like they feel better for bowing their heads to their betters like the good peasant to his feudal lord.

 

[the 15th Wanderer]

He can't have come here expecting to win anything straight away, given what he inherited.

Perhaps l should have said he did come here to survive as that was obviously the aim last season. My comment was more about this year and next, he wants to be challenging for something. It must be very frustrating as I think we have a very talented group 2 or 3 decent signings a bit of luck with injurys and could do well. Can't afford a 10 million center half no wonder he's annoyed. I am generally very positive but I am amazed at how tight things seem to be.

 

[goldeneyed]

You can tend to see the car crash coming…Jones to Southampton…Lampard back to Chelsea….Kinnear to Newcastle….

It’s crap when it’s your own club

So true.

 

[Chisels_n_ommers]

Could've just told Lop in May that we are skint and all this **** just before the start of the season could've been avoided.

Saying that, it's about time Shi was caught in his own web of lies.

Jeff is probably looking for a new manager bounce

 

[WickedWolfie]

Well, if he gets the Wolves' job, he will not be taking on a long-term PL role.

Even then l'd bet that his time as a PL coach would be shorter than our remaining time as a PL team....

 

[YouGottaRaulWithIt]

He spent money in January quite a bit of money in fact. He’s a coward in my opinion. It’s been made clear we have to operate with some financial restrictions for this season but he couldn’t even bring himself to do that. I’m not defending Fosun of Jeff at all but this supposed elite coach has walked at the first opportunity. Personally speaking in the trenches you need people to be made of sterner stuff so good riddance to him.

You are entitled to your opinion. By the way are you a soldier or a grave digger?

 

[North West Wanderer]

give him the pay off on the caveat it’s repaid in full if any of them work in the next five years.

 

[Ches78]

Good post!
I suspect that JL was reasonably informed where we stood on money for transfers but he assumed that Wolves would cave into him and at the 11th. hour would produce more money.
I think it’s possible that JL is trying to blackmail Wolves……

It sounds like that's exactly what he's been doing - refusing to commit to the club unless he gets his signings. Feels very much like throwing the baby out with the bath water, as our squad isn't that bad, and if he's a decent manager we should still be able to have a half-decent season. As others have said, it feels like JL is only interested in himself - complete contrast to the likes of Nuno! (Nuno we miss you!)

 

[Ercall Wolves]

Negotiations are extended because he’s a scumbag mercenary who wants paying to go rather than walking for nothing, exactly as he did at Sevilla. It’s almost a carbon copy of his playbook from his last job, spend money, complain you want to spend more, cry and whine long enough to make your job untenable and walk off with a pay off

Oh dear and you know that for sure of course
Without him we would be playing in the championship now

 

[JadeWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1688941780102778880

This is the prat off ITV Central who stirred the Podence spitting stuff.

 

[WickedWolfie]

He spent money in January quite a bit of money in fact. He’s a coward in my opinion. It’s been made clear we have to operate with some financial restrictions for this season but he couldn’t even bring himself to do that. I’m not defending Fosun of Jeff at all but this supposed elite coach has walked at the first opportunity. Personally speaking in the trenches you need people to be made of sterner stuff so good riddance to him.

Notably our wonderfully effective CEO Jeffrey got a payrise for his stellar performance while folk on here slag off JL, who did exactly what was asked of him, as mercenary.

 

[Perton Wolf]

He's gone.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

Some *******s is being posted on here about Lopetegui and we were dead and buried before he came in, alright he spent a few quid but to say **** off Lopetegui when he has clearly been shafted by Shi is ridiculous.

I'm sure all those saying it would just accept being ****ed over by your boss but I certainly wouldn't accept it.

So what would you have done? Walk out? He had that choice. He wants his cake and to eat it. Would your boss pay a premium you if you just resigned? He has the same choices and legal rights. He will not back up his apparent principles with any action because he is being paid too much.

 

[Rhoswolf]

From Nuno to Lage from JL to O'Neil, utter clowns running the club. Anyone regret wanting Nuno out or still happy with the outcome?

 

[WickedWolfie]

Lop out O’Neil in. Just need to ship out RAN and Fabio now so we can replace them with no one for the ultimate summer.

Jeff fixed that for you...

 

[Ercall Wolves]

Absolutely devastated
With JL we would have definitely stayed in the premiership but now who knows
Totally totally deflated what a **** **** day

 

[lobodelsur]

Perhaps l should have said he did come here to survive as that was obviously the aim last season. My comment was more about this year and next, he wants to be challenging for something. It must be very frustrating as I think we have a very talented group 2 or 3 decent signings a bit of luck with injurys and could do well. Can't afford a 10 million center half no wonder he's annoyed. I am generally very positive but I am amazed at how tight things seem to be.

I agree. I come back to the 'Rome wasn't built in a day' analogy. We've seen progess (and would have seen more) but this club was never going to be in a position to challenge for the top 7 this season, and would have needed investment next summer to make that step up.

 

[Wolves Heathen]

To many reports of him leaving for there not to be something in this, I personally think the die was cast when Loppy did his interview, I can only say Jeff must have told him a heck of a lot of lies when he got him to come to the Wolves, you don't bring the number of staff that Loppy has unless you are in this for the long term.
I think the way this has panned out will do our Club a heck of a lot of harm in the eyes of the football world, what top rated manager will ever come to Wolves knowing that you cannot trust the word of the Chairman ?, Jeff's position is surely now becoming almost untenable he has a lot to answer for and a lot of that is not good, all we as a team can look forward to while he is here is years of making up the numbers in the Premier League and ever rising Ticket prices, Thank you Jeff Shi .

 

[westside wolf]

I can't help but feel that the fallout from this is going to be hugely divisive. Lots of strong feelings about who is to blame, but apportioning blame actually helps no-one here.

 

[thommo1984]

Embarrassed to be a Wolves fan today.

**** off Fosun

 

[AndyY]

I don’t disagree, our transfers strategy has been poor since the first season back up. But that’s for another thread. The reality is Lopetegui has more at his disposal than our previous 2 head coaches did in terms of quality and money spent. I mean there’s a strong case we need another central defender for sure but in reality we’re talking potentially a back up one. He’s seemingly moaning he’s not spaffing £25 million on a completely unproven backup midfielder from the championship.

Sa

Semedo Dawson Kilman Ran

Nunes Lemina Gomes

Cunha Silva Neto

Bentley
Doherty
Bueno
Toti
Traore
Hodge
Sarabia
Hwang
Sasa

If he’s telling us that’s not good enough to avoid a relegation battle then he’s not a good enough coach

Brighton, Brentford, Fulham all had decent seasons with arguably less than that. We could quite conceivably have a decent if unspectacular season and finish 10th and then from next summer we’re free to do more business

No, he is telling us that’s no5 good enough to compete for Europe and that’s what he wants.

 

[AndyY]

You can moan about Jeff as much as you like, but he ain’t the one walking out on the club in the week before kickoff.

Jeff is responsible for our financial situation, and our manager is leaving (pushed or fell) because the financial situation does not allow him to build a team to fight for European places.

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

I’d take Cooper over O’Neil, and that’s saying something.

100%

 

[manc_wolf]

[Sky Sports] BREAKING NEWS 17:14 08/08/23

An incredible turn of events at Molineux today, after Julen Lopetegui was locked in talks with Jeff Shi, Guo Guangchang and Matt Hobbs for 4 hours, and after securing additional funds for the transfer of 3 players thought to be Alex Scott, Nico Elvedi and Aaron Cresswell, Lopetegui has signed a 1-year extension to his current 2 year deal, and given his commitment to the club.

"I did it for the fans" Lopetegui said, after leaving the press room at Compton. "They've had hard times, but I want more than ever to bring back the golden days of old. This is a sleeping giant"


* wakes up from afternoon nap


oh bugger...

 

[Rhoswolf]

I can't help but feel that the fallout from this is going to be hugely divisive. Lots of strong feelings about who is to blame, but apportioning blame actually helps no-one here.

Disagree totally, those responsible should be held to account, why should utter incompetence be given a free ride?

 

[Norwegian Wolf]

But he's the cause for the walk out by either not being truthful or by not doing due diligence on a manager who has displayed such behaviour in the past.

If you believe that this was all going on prior to the letter released a couple of days ago - then why does the letter not address it in any way? (or more relevant - why was the letter released at that specific time). This perhaps offers an insight in to how

You sound blinded by sentiment. Costa was a much better option up top than Raul last season and it was well known that Moutinho refused to play towards the end of the season too.

Seemed to me that Costa presented zero goal threat every week and that Cunha or Hwang (or preferably Cunha and Hwang) would have been a much better option. But what do I know, I ain’t won one trophy in 20 years as a manager.

 

[Direwolf]

Apparently their is a bit of an impasse going on. The sticking points revolve around a couple of packets of post it notes, a set of coloured marker pens, a Pritstick and half a bottle of Tippex. Hobbs has Jeff on zoom and he is not budging.